What the fuck is wrong with you, Southwest Airlines?

[cactusflinthead 27,601]

I didn't know this.

 

[fattyflattie 4,638]

38 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

Boasting about burning 7 hours so you can give money to 2 airlines fully bankrolled by authoritarian monarchies. Lmao. 

They are spectacular flights, though.  

[jdhorn92 1,557]

I dont get the check bag deal.  The only time we check a bag is for a week long ski trip.  I have 3 teen girls plus wife.  Teach them to pack correctly and if needed a standard roller and large duffle.  Put the purse in the bag and take out before putting in overhead. I can go anywhere for a week with a roller bag and a backpack.  NEVER EVER check a bag, that is the most amateur thing a traveler can do, completely blows my mind that people will check a bag for a long weekend.  All carriers allow for 2 carry-ons.  The standard carry plus a large duffle is to go-to.  Most times for a long weekend pack back pack and jam it under the seat in front, then once airborne, put it under your calves and rotate as needed back underneath,  save all the pain of a cancel or need to go standby.

[Zepol87 9,191]

Man you mofos like driving, fuck all that shit. I will drive to Austin but that is about it, I fly to Houston and SA when I have to go. I travel a shit ton for work on AA, only had 1 issue with a checked bag in the past 2 years and that was at Burbank. I don't understand how you guys have so many issues what the fuck are you doing?

[FartingMonk 3,608]

Yeah.  I travelled for work for 3 years and it was my bags plus inspection tools which were in pelican cases.  Don't think I have ever missed a bag.  My carry-on bags were my laptops and my gaming computer.  

[The Dog 44,133]

[Dahobbs 17,677]

1 hour ago, Captainant said:

Cop is probably disappointed he didn't get to book anyone... He was condescending as fuck to her and treating those people like they're just fucking cattle. 

Super classy move by Southwest to call the cops on their own customers that they fucked over

I'm very confused on how getting a flight canceled means you're now trespassing in the airport. Also, Southwest doesn't own the airport. At most, they lease a small portion of the terminal (and generally not the public areas). So, at most, Southwest should be able to remove them from the gate area, not the entire secure area of the publicly owned airport. And, again, getting a flight cancelled does not mean you're not entitled to be in the airport. Cop and Southwest fucked up big time. 

[The Dog 44,133]

4 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I'm very confused on how getting a flight canceled means you're now trespassing in the airport. Also, Southwest doesn't own the airport. At most, they lease a small portion of the terminal (and generally not the public areas). So, at most, Southwest should be able to remove them from the gate area, not the entire secure area of the publicly owned airport. And, again, getting a flight cancelled does not mean you're not entitled to be in the airport. Cop and Southwest fucked up big time. 

There have been incidents where the SW staff has been assaulted by passengers during this mess. If that happened then that explains why cops were there. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,817]

This is gonna be the daddy of all DOT audits. We’re preparing for our DOT audit this year for our tiny little family company. I can’t imagine what this is gonna look like/cost.

[52-80 19,237]

49 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

They are spectacular flights, though.  

As flagship carriers projecting your national image with unlimited federal budget, why not…why not bedeck your aircraft cabin in gold-colored trim

[Bevo 13,598]

1 hour ago, jdhorn92 said:

I dont get the check bag deal.  The only time we check a bag is for a week long ski trip.  I have 3 teen girls plus wife.  Teach them to pack correctly and if needed a standard roller and large duffle.  Put the purse in the bag and take out before putting in overhead. I can go anywhere for a week with a roller bag and a backpack.  NEVER EVER check a bag, that is the most amateur thing a traveler can do, completely blows my mind that people will check a bag for a long weekend.  All carriers allow for 2 carry-ons.  The standard carry plus a large duffle is to go-to.  Most times for a long weekend pack back pack and jam it under the seat in front, then once airborne, put it under your calves and rotate as needed back underneath,  save all the pain of a cancel or need to go standby.

I don't believe you. Pic of wife and kids packing.

[HamsterHookah 112]

4 minutes ago, Bevo said:

I don't believe you. Pic of wife and kids packing.

Agreed. I once took a family trip to Cali and had 13 bags for 5 people (4 females). Two bags were just hair dryers and straighteners and other toiletry items.

[Dahobbs 17,677]

26 minutes ago, The Dog said:

There have been incidents where the SW staff has been assaulted by passengers during this mess. If that happened then that explains why cops were there. 

Did you watch the video? The cop was kicking everyone at the gate out of the airport for having a "cancelled" ticket and thus trespassing. 

[The Dog 44,133]

3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Did you watch the video? The cop was kicking everyone at the gate out of the airport for having a "cancelled" ticket and thus trespassing. 

yes i was only answering why the cops were probably there. not why he was being a dick.

[troph 24,905]

1 hour ago, jdhorn92 said:

I dont get the check bag deal.  The only time we check a bag is for a week long ski trip.  I have 3 teen girls plus wife.  Teach them to pack correctly and if needed a standard roller and large duffle.  Put the purse in the bag and take out before putting in overhead. I can go anywhere for a week with a roller bag and a backpack.  NEVER EVER check a bag, that is the most amateur thing a traveler can do, completely blows my mind that people will check a bag for a long weekend.  All carriers allow for 2 carry-ons.  The standard carry plus a large duffle is to go-to.  Most times for a long weekend pack back pack and jam it under the seat in front, then once airborne, put it under your calves and rotate as needed back underneath,  save all the pain of a cancel or need to go standby.

I usually have 4 bags counting a purse, backpack (with work crap/laptop and standard carry on essentials like snacks, ipad, headphones, water bottles, etc.), a carry on suitcase and a larger suitcase. I shove my purse in my backpack right before I board (then take it out) so that effectively gets me to 3 bags. From time to time I shrink down to the just the carryon sized but the benefit of just accepting at least one checked bag is that you don't have to go through the bs of shitty products in small packages or putting your nice product in small packages. basically fuck the 4oz rule.  and you know what happens with my checked bag?  everyone asks if they can put their shit in it.  it's like a purse, you carry one people want you to be the mule. you check a bag, they want you to be the mule, all while making fun of you for it.

[Brew 3,049]

1 hour ago, jdhorn92 said:

I dont get the check bag deal.  The only time we check a bag is for a week long ski trip.  I have 3 teen girls plus wife.  Teach them to pack correctly and if needed a standard roller and large duffle.  Put the purse in the bag and take out before putting in overhead. I can go anywhere for a week with a roller bag and a backpack.  NEVER EVER check a bag, that is the most amateur thing a traveler can do, completely blows my mind that people will check a bag for a long weekend.  All carriers allow for 2 carry-ons.  The standard carry plus a large duffle is to go-to.  Most times for a long weekend pack back pack and jam it under the seat in front, then once airborne, put it under your calves and rotate as needed back underneath,  save all the pain of a cancel or need to go standby.

I travel quite a bit, anything over 3 nights and I’m probably checking. I’m not wearing already worn clothes to get through a week somewhere. I’m also not going to be the jackass with the overstuffed bag or multiple large bags. I’m also not fighting over bin space if I end up in a late boarding group for some reason and I’ll just gate check my carry on then. It’s not worth it, it can go under the plane. By the time I stop by the restroom and walk to baggage claim, the wait is rarely more than a few minutes. We have never had a lost bag (knock on wood) in all our years of traveling. We had one get delayed and they brought it by courier later that day.

[royiv 9,342]

47 minutes ago, Bevo said:

I don't believe you. Pic of wife and kids packing.

Major benefit of having a wife that travels almost every week for work. She's got packing down to a science. It's a badge of honor for her that she never checks a bag. Just one of many reasons I'm happy to be married to her.

[BearSchlong 8,110]

Our CEO has already had a talk with his counterpart at LUV and probably mayor Pete as well. My buddy has the account, I can't wait to see his 2023 projects.

Also Briggs & Riley suitcases are worth the $$, IMO. I can pack a week’s worth of clothes in the 22” Essential Carry on.

[The Dog 44,133]

as someone who did a summer gig as a ramp rat while at UT here's what I say about checking bags:

1. Don't

2. If you must, hardside only. 

[BearSchlong 8,110]

Major benefit of having a wife that travels almost every week for work. She's got packing down to a science. It's a badge of honor for her that she never checks a bag. Just one of many reasons I'm happy to be married to her.

Mine too. And until recently, I was the one who insisted that only heathens carry on suitcases. The aforementioned B&R was a game changer if only due to time saved.

Though yesterday I helped my daughter check a bag with a pistol and ammo just to show her how easy it is. The counter agent was brand new and thought I was kidding when I walked up and said “she is traveling with a gun and ammo.” She actually said “it's not in her carry on, right?”

Question - not to derail the thread, but what if we had gone from the range to the airport and TSA had swabbed her clothes and hands? I'm assuming it would have set off the detector. Which is why we didn't have a range session prior to her flight.

[BearSchlong 8,110]

as someone who did a summer gig as a ramp rat while at UT here's what I say about checking bags:
1. Don't
2. If you must, hardside only. 

Amazon sells cheap polycarbonate ones that I generally view as disposable. They look like carbon fiber though.

[Wally Fairway 5,581]

I would like to thank SWA for my unexpected trip to Chicago - luckily it is only about a 4 hour drive; into the Windy City just before 4:30 this morning and back out before 6:30. No traffic on the way in, and only a little traffic going back through and I didn't see any shootings, muggings or stabbings. 

The janitor was pretty funny, yelling and swearing at people to stay out of the bathroom while he was cleaning  - should have taken a video of that but I wasn't on my A game. 

Heard the flight went very smoothly, sounds like Delta may have earned themselves a loyal customer; or Alaska Airlines, or anyone but SWA. My traveler was super pissed.

[Shaddie 1,651]

58 minutes ago, royiv said:

Major benefit of having a wife that travels almost every week for work.  The reasons I'm happy to be married to her.

FIFY

[Fudge Nuggets 19,218]

3 hours ago, 52-80 said:

Boasting about burning 7 hours so you can give money to 2 airlines fully bankrolled by authoritarian monarchies. Lmao. 

You are dumbass.

[DaysOff 7,971]

I thought you said schedules were the issue.
As an airline employee myself (and airline pilot legacy), I try not to begrudge the rank-and-file for demanding their fair share after decades of corporate malfeasance. But ALPA/APA/TWU/IAM (and most other labor unions for that matter) can absolutely get fucked. They have two explicit goals: 1) increase membership (read: increase income from dues), and 2) get their members paid as much as possible for doing as little work as possible. They relish every opportunity to hold the company hostage and have zero interest in its overall health, insofar as 1) and 2) above are unaffected. FUPM, indeed.
Sorry for the thread derail, back to your [regularly] scheduled SWA meltdown.

Who's this fucking guy?

[fattyflattie 4,638]

55 minutes ago, BearSchlong said:

Question - not to derail the thread, but what if we had gone from the range to the airport and TSA had swabbed her clothes and hands? I'm assuming it would have set off the detector. Which is why we didn't have a range session prior to her flight.

Had a friend get nailed after a round of skeet one afternoon.  Don’t think much came of it. But they swabbed him good, probably went knuckle deep but he didn’t say. 

[troph 24,905]

1 hour ago, Shaddie said:

FIFY

I was going to say “my wife travels often but she still finds time to give me blow jobs weekly. That’s the reason I’m happy to be married to her.”

[52-80 19,237]

1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

You are dumbass.

Says the guy who proudly revealed “going 7 hours out of the way” to fly Air Haram

[YGIFS 19,452]

2 hours ago, Wally Fairway said:

I would like to thank SWA for my unexpected trip to Chicago - luckily it is only about a 4 hour drive; into the Windy City just before 4:30 this morning and back out before 6:30. No traffic on the way in, and only a little traffic going back through and I didn't see any shootings, muggings or stabbings. 

The janitor was pretty funny, yelling and swearing at people to stay out of the bathroom while he was cleaning  - should have taken a video of that but I wasn't on my A game. 

Heard the flight went very smoothly, sounds like Delta may have earned themselves a loyal customer; or Alaska Airlines, or anyone but SWA. My traveler was super pissed.

Glad you made it okay.  Everybody in Texas who is an expert with ballistics and hunting tells me everybody who ventures into Chicago gets shot dead. I don’t know how they still have so many people there.  Must be Ed Rooney

[Brisketexan 105,298]

4 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Glad you made it okay.  Everybody in Texas who is an expert with ballistics and hunting tells me everybody who ventures into Chicago gets shot dead. I don’t know how they still have so many people there.  Must be Ed Rooney

So THAT'S how it is in YGIFS' family....

[The Dog 44,133]

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,218]

14 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

Says the guy who proudly revealed “going 7 hours out of the way” to fly Air Haram

To avoid flying Delta or any other piece of shit US airline?  Fucking right.

I'm sorry you have never had the opportunity to fly on a real airline.

[YGIFS 19,452]

I think In some kinda holiday episode Freaky Friday special, Twitter and Southwest switched CEO’s and ruined both companies.  Tina Fey could host!

Edited December 28, 2022 by YGIFS

[52-80 19,237]

22 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I'm sorry you have never had the opportunity to fly on a real airline.

What are those?

[Gatorubet 30,294]

5 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

What are those?

[austingirl 2,191]

This business with Southwest is bullshit but since we’re discussing packing, I will share that I, a woman, went to India for a week-long business trip with only a purse and a carry-on. Could barely lift it over my head on the way back, with souvenirs and whatnot, but I did it.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,218]

17 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

What are those?

Things you can’t afford, apparently. 

[Bevo 13,598]

11 minutes ago, austingirl said:

This business with Southwest is bullshit but since we’re discussing packing, I will share that I, a woman, went to India for a week-long business trip with only a purse and a carry-on. Could barely lift it over my head on the way back, with souvenirs and whatnot, but I did it.

You know the rules.

[Aqua Buddha 14,607]

12 minutes ago, austingirl said:

This business with Southwest is bullshit but since we’re discussing packing, I will share that I, a woman, went to India for a week-long business trip with only a purse and a carry-on. Could barely lift it over my head on the way back, with souvenirs and whatnot, but I did it.

It’s easy.  Any number of websites give tips on how to do it.  Samantha Brown talks about it all the time on her IG feed.

[Dbeasy 15,087]

46 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

This is dead-on accurate. Gary Kelly should be tarred and feathered. 

[Pescado_Rojo 19,428]

Side effect of the Southwest fuckery and being stuck in overcrowded airports and hotels…I caught the Covid. 

[52-80 19,237]

10 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Things you can’t afford, apparently. 

We cant even afford dedicating an entire daytime just to get on the right plane. Its so sad.  

[Captain Ron 12,910]

7 hours ago, SuperSport said:

I thought you said schedules were the issue.

As an airline employee myself (and airline pilot legacy), I try not to begrudge the rank-and-file for demanding their fair share after decades of corporate malfeasance. But ALPA/APA/TWU/IAM (and most other labor unions for that matter) can absolutely get fucked. They have two explicit goals: 1) increase membership (read: increase income from dues), and 2) get their members paid as much as possible for doing as little work as possible. They relish every opportunity to hold the company hostage and have zero interest in its overall health, insofar as 1) and 2) above are unaffected. FUPM, indeed.

Sorry for the thread derail, back to your [regularly] scheduled SWA meltdown.

So tell me more how much you like licking CEOs boots. 

[royiv 9,342]

4 hours ago, troph said:

I usually have 4 bags counting a purse, backpack (with work crap/laptop and standard carry on essentials like snacks, ipad, headphones, water bottles, etc.), a carry on suitcase and a larger suitcase. I shove my purse in my backpack right before I board (then take it out) so that effectively gets me to 3 bags. From time to time I shrink down to the just the carryon sized but the benefit of just accepting at least one checked bag is that you don't have to go through the bs of shitty products in small packages or putting your nice product in small packages. basically fuck the 4oz rule.  and you know what happens with my checked bag?  everyone asks if they can put their shit in it.  it's like a purse, you carry one people want you to be the mule. you check a bag, they want you to be the mule, all while making fun of you for it.

You way over pack.

[ClubWhatever 12,156]

21 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

This is dead-on accurate. Gary Kelly should be tarred and feathered. 

He’s a Longhorn Legend

[Blotto 23,570]

My delay at Logan this morning amounted to just about 4 hours. Jet Blue just sent an email apologizing and informing me I will see another email with some unspecified flight credit within a week. All the attention paid to this Southwest shitshow must have some of the other carriers all spooked enough to make sure they aren't fucking up anything as well. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

To avoid flying Delta or any other piece of shit US airline?  Fucking right.

I'm sorry you have never had the opportunity to fly on a real airline.

 

1 hour ago, 52-80 said:

What are those?

[troph 24,905]

1 hour ago, royiv said:

You way over pack.

Okie dokie. 

[CooterBrown 18,026]

Also Briggs & Riley suitcases are worth the $$, IMO. I can pack a week’s worth of clothes in the 22” Essential Carry on.

I have the same carry on. I always rent a place with a W/D if I’m staying more than 5 days so I can use this suitcase for every trip. I also really like the B&R backpack for travel. It slips right over the handle and is just the right size.

[GenXer 2,975]

5 hours ago, BearSchlong said:

Also Briggs & Riley suitcases are worth the $$, IMO. I can pack a week’s worth of clothes in the 22” Essential Carry on.

I bought a B&R rollerboard in ‘99 for about $400. I’ve had it repaired twice for free by B&R. They stand behind their products. It’s still in good shape, and I have 1.5 million miles on AA and 200K on Delta.

It’s the rare occasion when I check a bag. It’s normally when I have a 2+ week international trip that requires more than one category of dress (biz + tourism + cold weather gear).

I trained my wife how to travel when I took her to Greece when we were dating. Pack right; pack light. You gotta carry your own stuff. My family knows this, and we all pack to travel without checking bags.

Checking bags introduces another variable that can screw up your plans.

Edited December 29, 2022 by GenXer