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8 hours ago, ztejas said:

Yeah I should take a CPR course again. It's been awhile. 

Download this app on all your devices. Play the scenarios. Learn it. Recommend it. Get your family to go through it. 
 

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lifesaver-mobile/id633999639

Not a substitute for a good RC course, but it is really good. 

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I’ve watched Hamlin since high school at Central Catholic. He’s a good dude. Met him more than a few times. Praying for him to be okay.

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That's because the lawyers and engineers won't shut up.

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If you have something different speak up. The general consensus has been, "Don't worry about breathing in, stay on chest compressions."

This is true for 1 person rescue. Don’t stop compressions to breathe when it’s just 1 person. If there’s more than 1 person, send someone to get help. Then, when there’s 2 people available rescue breaths can be performed at the recommended ratio.
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This is true for 1 person rescue. Don’t stop compressions to breathe when it’s just 1 person. If there’s more than 1 person, send someone to get help. Then, when there’s 2 people available rescue breaths can be performed at the recommended ratio.

I call dibs on breaths

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9 hours ago, Doc Daneeka said:

Dark ass movie. 

“But I knew that girl. She was a fighter. So no matter how far you think she ran... I can guarantee you she ran farther.”

I can’t think of another movie that affected me like this one. Shut it off and slept by myself that night. Didn’t want to be around anyone the next day. Watched it again a couple of years later- same thing. 

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7 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

(All I know is we have waaaay more doctors on this board than I thought before tonight. You motherfuckers lurk too much.) 


Yeah but how many are legally allowed to practice?

 

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18 minutes ago, Kennythetiger said:

I can’t think of another movie that affected me like this one. Shut it off and slept by myself that night. Didn’t want to be around anyone the next day. Watched it again a couple of years later- same thing. 

Spoiler

https://youtu.be/6F7OgHiG3Xs

It won’t embed, but the last scene was something. So many things about human nature, right and wrong, crime and punishment, honor and courage, dishonor and cowardice, that were touched on in the movie come to this point. Every time I watch it, it comes to mind for days. 

I had no idea who Taylor Sheridan was when I saw this the first time. A lot of people like a lot of his stuff, and I do, too, but I’d be surprised if he ever does anything that sticks with me like that movie sticks with me. 

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When my mother was on her last legs she was moved to another hospital. She had a dnr and all the docs. The dr referred alm questions to the nurse and left. I asked if there were levels of a dnr, or if there were drugs to administer. The nurse told me straight. “If your mom goes into cardiac arrest, without a DNR, I will climb on top of your mother and start compressions. If there are meds to administer the only way to move them is compression. It is way tougher than anything you see on TV. If she is revived, as frail as she is, she will likely wake up with multiple rib fractures.”

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If you have something different speak up. The general consensus has been, "Don't worry about breathing in, stay on chest compressions."

There is no general consensus, it’s the standard. Compressions > Airway because for the average adult there is enough oxygen in the blood to sustain the body for 7-8 minutes. The reason for compressions > airway initially is that you need to move that blood around to perfuse vitals organs and prevent cellular death. Eventually, yes, oxygenation is required, but that is done by medical professionals as the whole mouth to mouth procedure has proven to be largely inadequate and people are off of the chest too long to do it.

I attended a resuscitation conference at Parkland in March with doctors from across the country and the only definitive evidence that was indicative of a positive outcome (Utstein Criteria) was early defibrillation and continuous, quality compressions. We don’t even attempt intubation in the field until 6 minutes into a code.
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20 minutes ago, Quagmire said:

Apparently the tin foil hat crowd is 100 percent convinced it was the vaccine that caused this

so fucking tiresome going to twitter for updates only to find a bunch of angry lunatics claiming that these cardiac events never happened before the vaccine (hank gathers? reggie lewis? countless other pre-internet athletes?). a guy just had his heart stop in front of all his closest friends and they want to use this to prop up baseless conspiracy theories. shit is gross.

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3 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

I have avoided this discussion here. Anything beyond this is CR.

 

Edit: we gonna do this?

Best thing to do is for everyone to ignore the vaccine discussion in this context. Flame away at your idiotic friends and family in a direct discussion between the cardiac risks of the vaccine vs the cardiac risks of idk….actually having Covid.

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https://www.myplainview.com/news/article/UT-recruit-hospitalized-after-collapse-8515878.php

Crazy that that was in 2006.

UT recruit hospitalized after collapse

 
Sep. 14, 2006
 

An Austin Westlake football player collapsed on the sideline Friday night and was taken to a hospital after being revived by paramedics.

Matt Nader, one of the state's top offensive linemen, was in stable condition at College Station Medical Center after collapsing early in the second quarter.

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18 minutes ago, Bevo said:

https://www.myplainview.com/news/article/UT-recruit-hospitalized-after-collapse-8515878.php

Crazy that that was in 2006.

UT recruit hospitalized after collapse

 
Sep. 14, 2006

 

An Austin Westlake football player collapsed on the sideline Friday night and was taken to a hospital after being revived by paramedics.

Matt Nader, one of the state's top offensive linemen, was in stable condition at College Station Medical Center after collapsing early in the second quarter.

UT made me proud in this situation and honored his scholarship 

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1 hour ago, SHOOTER12 said:

No shit? Color me amazed. Still seems like getting air/oxygen would be super to prevent brain damage. 

The theory is the chest compressions also bring some air into the lungs. I don’t recall it was a few years back when I heard. (Military training) that we were giving too much air back when it was like 20/2 20 compressions 2 breaths or something like that. I guess as time went in the chest compressions on the rebound would Vaccume air in 

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The theory is the chest compressions also bring some air into the lungs. I don’t recall it was a few years back when I heard. (Military training) that we were giving too much air back when it was like 20/2 20 compressions 2 breaths or something like that. I guess as time went in the chest compressions on the rebound would Vaccume air in 

The term is Passive Insufflation.
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1 hour ago, cactusflinthead said:

I have avoided this discussion here. Anything beyond this is CR.

 

Edit: we gonna do this?

goddamnit, if calling out disrespectful imbeciles, who lack even a modicum of understanding of medicine, physiology, or, shit, even just science in general, for trumpeting this asinine bullshit, for which there is no goddamn evidence whatsoever, then neg the shit out of me. This isn’t an attack in anyone’s belief about policy or political philosophy - it is simply calling out what is objectively, fundamentally wrong.

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