the 2023 speaker of the house voting thread of implosion

[Bama Chick 28596]

For some reason I have Cabinet Battle #1 from Hamilton stuck in my head.  

[Irwin F Fletcher 3550]

GET SOME ORDER IN THIS HOUSE!!!!

[C-Man 27214]

Who is this blonde cunt?

[Blotto 23497]

Why doesn't this fatty just threaten to eat 4 or 5 of the HFC if they dont get in line and vote for McCarthy. 

[henrygandorf 29189]

random house gop member gets up and talks shit about democrats.

twitter : i wonder when the dems will start negotiating to get this done.

[DDD Dad 14332]

3 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Who is this blonde cunt?

Just pulled up C-Span on the computer.  Is it that awful Debbie Lesko in the lime green suit behind Scott Perry?

Edited January 4, 2023 by DDD Dad

[The Hot Dog Buffet 1291]

51 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

McCarthy needs to have Trump come in and declare him Speaker of the House after saying that the voting was rigged.

The voting is rigged. The nominee is supposed to negotiate, give concessions, and make promises to secure enough votes to ensure victory. McCarthy is the first dumbass in 100 years to not be able to do that before his first ballot.

['stache 21802]

So why do they hate him so much now? Because he wouldn't overturn the election? The term RINO is yet another phrase that has become meaningless, it just means not QAnon level crazy at this point.

[Irwin F Fletcher 3550]

Well, at least the Republicans are admitting they've broken the system. Unfortunately they failed to realize they're not the ones that can fix it.

[GenXer 2850]

24 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Here’s what could happen:

1) McCarthy fails on 6th vote with 5-7 more defections from his side voting “present” (a dangerous game) to show HFC they are about to make their best and final offer

2) Adjournment until tonight or tomorrow

3) GOP conference coalesces around Scalise withs steering committee seats for HFC etc

4) Kumbaya sung

5) Democrats gain nothing

6) McCarthy organizes congressional baseball game

[Francisco 2.0 32389]

13 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

1) McCarthy eventually wears the HFC down, and wins (very unlikely).

2) There is a "compromise" candidate like Scalise that both the McCarthy crowd and the HFC get behind.  Unlikely, but if such "compromise" candidate exists, his tenure will be heavy on the HFC agenda (of shit-flinging).

3) The GQP never can get their shit straight, and 6+ of them break away and vote for a moderate "compromise" candidate with the Dems.  Probably not likely.

4) stalemate, no speaker elected this Congress.  Fucking possible.

5) something completely batshit insane that nobody could have predicted.  This is a near certainty.

 

6)  Handful of GOP'ers in Biden districts switch teams.  Speaker Jeffries, everyone.

 

Yeah, it's not likely at all, but hell, would it surprise anyone at this point?

 

 

[DDD Dad 14332]

It is truly ironic when current-day Republicans claim they are the party of Frederick Douglass and reconstruction.

[TexLonghorn 5663]

Here we go again!

['stache 21802]

1 minute ago, DDD Dad said:

It is truly ironic when current-day Republicans claim they are the party of Frederick Douglass and reconstruction.

It truly is a bizarre part of history how that switch happened.

[SydneyCarton 48076]

5 minutes ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

The voting is rigged. The nominee is supposed to negotiate, give concessions, and make promises to secure enough votes to ensure victory. McCarthy is the first dumbass in 100 years to not be able to do that before his first ballot.

Not to defend spineless fascist sympathizing McCarthy, but he did give concessions. He did make promises. He literally made every fucking concession and promise possible, including allowing 5 lunatics to call to vote him out for speaker WHENEVER he did something they disliked. And when he did that, they still voted No, and responded with "All we want is for you to not be speaker. " That twat couldn't have made more promises and concessions if he literally put his head between his legs, gaped his own butthole, and said he was ready to take all comers. The problem is, the HFC all came and then laughed and walked off. 

[SquishMitten 10403]

No, the bizarre part is that some people buy it

[henrygandorf 29189]

1 minute ago, DDD Dad said:

It is truly ironic when current-day Republicans claim they are the party of Frederick Douglass and reconstruction.

i love the whole trump narrative of "i bet you didn't know that [insert black person here] was actually a republican."  it's a sure sign that whatever fact was just spurted out was likely learned in the last 24 hours.

[WBT 20561]

Just now, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

6)  Handful of GOP'ers in Biden districts switch teams.  Speaker Jeffries, everyone.

 

Yeah, it's not likely at all, but hell, would it surprise anyone at this point?

 

 

[C-Man 27214]

2 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

Watching cspan and wishing the House members were obligated to wear their special interest/corporate logos on their clothing. 

 

1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

Murdoch could do us all a favor and fucking die already

Isn't the son as bad -- or worse?

 

1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

x-post from fake congressman thread

 

"Where's Waldo Santos?"

 

36 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I think santos did too

 

It's George Santos Weaver-McKelvey

[C-Man 27214]

2 minutes ago, 'stache said:

It truly is a bizarre part of history how that switch happened.

 

2 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

No, the bizarre part is that some people buy it

Exactly, the racist, homophobic, white, male Dixiecrats simply changed political parties. None of their ideology changed.

[YGIFS 19450]

20 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I’ll be supremely disappointed if this circus ends without someone on the house floor being called a usurper. 

Rep. Olaf would now like to sing, "My love for you is like a truck, usurper.  Would you like some making fuck, usurper!"  

[DDD Dad 14332]

So what was the reason for dumping Gym for Donalds?  It's hard to keep up with this thread.

Also, assuming no "present" votes how many votes does Donalds need to deny McCarthy again?

Edited January 4, 2023 by DDD Dad

[Beau Vine 54211]

28 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

The tight end? Man, I'm confused right now.

Rep from Uvalde.

[SydneyCarton 48076]

Just now, DDD Dad said:

So what was the reason for dumping Gym for Donalds?  It's hard to keep up with this thread.

Jordan might have said he wanted no part of this shit. Or they're picking a new guy every day to make a point. No one knows for sure. 

[Js1 85311]

Bergman and Buck went from McCarthy to not voting.

6th straight L on the way

Edited January 4, 2023 by Js1

[DDD Dad 14332]

3 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

So what was the reason for dumping Gym for Donalds?  It's hard to keep up with this thread.

Also, assuming no "present" votes how many votes does Donalds need to deny McCarthy again?

Already up to 7 for Donalds through the C's.  Not looking good for Kevin -- ETA per C-Span I guess the number was 7.

Edited January 4, 2023 by DDD Dad

[TexasHooch 5122]

3 minutes ago, C-Man said:

"Where's Waldo Santos?"

 

It's George Santos Weaver-McKelvey

Joking aside, his preferred name is Anthony Devolder (Middle name + Mom's maiden name).  Recent reporting has indicated that he can't stand "George" and his family didn't even call him that.

[The Dog 44020]

7 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Not to defend spineless fascist sympathizing McCarthy, but he did give concessions. He did make promises. He literally made every fucking concession and promise possible, including allowing 5 lunatics to call to vote him out for speaker WHENEVER he did something they disliked. And when he did that, they still voted No, and responded with "All we want is for you to not be speaker. " That twat couldn't have made more promises and concessions if he literally put his head between his legs, gaped his own butthole, and said he was ready to take all comers. The problem is, the HFC all came and then laughed and walked off. 

Specifically he gave them their two biggest things and they seemed to have an agreement.

Then HFC showed up yesterday morning with a longer list of demands. They never negotiated in good faith. 

[Js1 85311]

1 minute ago, The Dog said:

Specifically he gave them their two biggest things and they seemed to have an agreement.

Then HFC showed up yesterday morning with a longer list of demands. They never negotiated in good faith. 

The HFC is everything the GOP says about The Squad. 

Too extreme, won’t compromise, can’t govern, doesn’t negotiate in good faith. Absolute children masquerading as grown adults 

[tx 3 putt 76905]

There have to be some R’s in very very moderate districts, barely holding their seats. They should vote for Jeffries 

[Native Horn 3500]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

If so you'd think that he'd have started with his own fucking baldness first. 

C'mon man, he's not the type of guy to take credit for such things.

[The Dog 44020]

1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

There have to be some R’s in very very moderate districts, barely holding their seats. They should vote for Jeffries 

It will be a Republican like Upton. Someone upthread said there are 18 Rs who represent districts that Biden won - those are the ones who will get things started. 

[Js1 85311]

Just now, The Dog said:

It will be a Republican like Upton. Someone upthread said there are 18 Rs who represent districts that Biden won - those are the ones who will get things started. 

Someone like Upton would not only be 500000% better than McCarthy, but he’s also friends with Biden. 

[DDD Dad 14332]

MTG been voting for McCarthy all this time?

[Mo Horn 8832]

6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Bergman and Buck went from McCarthy to not voting.

6th straight L on the way

They might vote at the end when the call the names of those who didn't vote. Their votes won't matter, but it will be interesting to see how they do vote, if they do. 

[ConferenceRoom 6141]

1 minute ago, DDD Dad said:

MTG been voting for McCarthy all this time?

Yep. She's got a committee on the line. 

[The Hot Dog Buffet 1291]

11 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

So what was the reason for dumping Gym for Donalds?  It's hard to keep up with this thread.

Also, assuming no "present" votes how many votes does Donalds need to deny McCarthy again?

Just 5. It's amazing that they keep voting, like McCarthy is going to swing 15 votes. Even if he changes the rules so a single member can call for his removal, he's not going to get 15 of them on his side.

[Chooky 13307]

When that fat lady from Florida went up there I was hoping she'd start singing. It would've been very symbolic.

[Michael Knight 12977]

watching the vote is a boring predictable process but the ending is still so great

[SydneyCarton 48076]

13 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Specifically he gave them their two biggest things and they seemed to have an agreement.

Then HFC showed up yesterday morning with a longer list of demands. They never negotiated in good faith. 

Poor GOP. Having a taste of their own medicine. 

[henrygandorf 29189]

16 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

So what was the reason for dumping Gym for Donalds?  It's hard to keep up with this thread.

Also, assuming no "present" votes how many votes does Donalds need to deny McCarthy again?

 

3 minutes ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

Just 5. It's amazing that they keep voting, like McCarthy is going to swing 15 votes. Even if he changes the rules so a single member can call for his removal, he's not going to get 15 of them on his side.

if there are no presents, it's 5 (222 -> 217).  if that one woman (r) keeps voting present, then it's 433 total which means 217 takes it, which means he would have to lose 6.  of course if the present is an r (like it has been), then it's 5 additional besides her (222 -> 216).

[Hermanator 7039]

51 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

For everyone that complains about the 2 party system and pines for European style parliamentary representation … this has kind of de facto turned into that shit show.  Not having a government (sometimes for months or years in Europe) until someone forms a coalition with the Boebert types to get a majority - good times!

Actually this kind of thing is on the road to what we need. Our "first past the post" system made sense in the 1700s but is completely broken today. It forces people to pick 1 of 2 parties who may not align with their beliefs because if they Cote their belief (i.e. Green Party) they'll just help elect the polar opposite that will do the opposite of what they want. Also right now reps from the republican party have to cater to the extremes or else get primaried, and if a Democratic candidate is too liberal they can't get out of the primaries. It just doesn't work. 

Three of the best functioning democracies on the planet are Sweden, Norway, and Finland. All 3 have different systems but all three use a variation of a Plurality/Majority and Proportional Representation mix. There's a better system that can be adapted from these for the US but it would be good for the American people and reduce profit margins for Corporate America so it won't happen. 

 

[Chooky 13307]

Kevin has spent years degrading himself in order to condition for this kind of humiliation. It's like a version of shame cross training. He's now impervious to embarrassment. I respect him for it. He now has the power to lay on his back on the house floor and light his farts while the next round of votes are tallied. That's how powerful he has become. 

[Blotto 23497]

7 minutes ago, Chooky said:

When that fat lady from Florida went up there I was hoping she'd start singing. It would've been very symbolic.

Its not over until the honorable gentlewoman from florida slams a dozen baconators and a two liter bottle of mountain dew. 

[Chooky 13307]

4 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

 

if there are no presents, it's 5 (222 -> 217).  if that one woman (r) keeps voting present, then it's 433 total which means 217 takes it, which means he would have to lose 6.  of course if the present is an r (like it has been), then it's 5 additional besides her (222 -> 216).

It's happening?

[The Hot Dog Buffet 1291]

3 minutes ago, Chooky said:

Kevin has spent years degrading himself in order to condition for this kind of humiliation. It's like a version of shame cross training. He's now impervious to embarrassment. I respect him for it. He now has the power to lay on his back on the house floor and light his farts while the next round of votes are tallied. That's how powerful he has become. 

Yeah, he's out there looking like losing 6 times in 2 days is his fetish.

[ultimaton 2972]

the best part of this is the outcome is essentially decided by vote 60, but the poor clerk still has to read off the remaining 370 names just so we can get to the exact same result as the last five votes.

[Js1 85311]

[pacman 7355]

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Joe Scarborough Cannot Contain His Laughter at House Speaker Chaos: ‘Not About Small Government, Its About NO Government’

 

[Francisco 2.0 32389]

18 minutes ago, The Dog said:

It will be a Republican like Upton. Someone upthread said there are 18 Rs who represent districts that Biden won - those are the ones who will get things started. 

Reminder:  One of those 18 is Santos (or whatever his real name is).