the 2023 speaker of the house voting thread of implosion

[MrBig 5414]

48 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

They have no interest in governing. Their dear leader has turned it into a reality show for the base and ratings is all that matters.

Nancy should know better than to bring up how well she treated ex-Speaker Dennis Hastert (who is now a convicted pedophile) just to make her point about how fucked up they’re treating her.

This is the type of shit Qs love to use when creating fairytales about Dems being a bunch of fucking pedophiles. “Well Nancy gave Dennis the good office so he could diddle kids privately, and his office was well known as the gathering spot for all the liberal Democrat pedophiles to worship Satan in between House votes…” I can hear it now being twisted to blame the Dems again. 

[Schulz2.0 28961]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Yep it’s Pelosi and the Dems’ fault that McCarthy was forced to make a deal with the Gaetz caucus, knowing full well the MTV was going to happen. 

[C-Man 27230]

Bow tie Speaker Pro Tem is hella mad. First, the gavel. Now this:

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52 min ago

Pelosi says interim speaker McHenry has ordered her to vacate her office in the Capitol building

From CNN's Haley Talbot and Dana Bash

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said interim speaker, GOP Rep. Patrick McHenry, has ordered her to vacate her office in the Capitol building.

She maintains her regular office in the Cannon House building.

CNN viewed an email that was sent just after 6 p.m. ET from McHenry’s office to Pelosi’s office: 

“Going to reassign h-132 for speaker office use. Please vacate the space tomorrow.”

"Sadly, because I am in California to mourn the loss of and pay tribute to my dear friend Dianne Feinstein, I am unable to retrieve my belongings at this time,” Pelosi said in a statement, referring to the California senatorwho died last week. 

She added: 

“This eviction is a sharp departure from tradition. As Speaker, I gave former Speaker Hastert a significantly larger suite of offices for as long as he wished,” she said. “Office space doesn’t matter to me, but it seems to be important to them. Now that the new Republican Leadership has settled this important matter, let’s hope they get to work on what’s truly important for the American people.”

CNN has reached out to McHenry.

Shit, sorry. Info already posted.

Edited October 4, 2023 by C-Man

[F250 28783]

So is this like aggy firing Jimbo and the boosters wanting to hire Chad Morris while Texags calls for Manziel to be head coach? Because that would be just as entertaining.

 

[SizzleChest 8284]

21 minutes ago, MrBig said:

Nancy should know better than to bring up how well she treated ex-Speaker Dennis Hastert (who is now a convicted pedophile) just to make her point about how fucked up they’re treating her.

This is the type of shit Qs love to use when creating fairytales about Dems being a bunch of fucking pedophiles. “Well Nancy gave Dennis the good office so he could diddle kids privately, and his office was well known as the gathering spot for all the liberal Democrat pedophiles to worship Satan in between House votes…” I can hear it now being twisted to blame the Dems again. 

[Js1 85416]

It’s not 

And no one serious 

[Gatorubet 30246]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

And no one serious 

 

[Doc Sam Beckett 5793]

Post the "select all images of speakers" one more time

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13585]

39 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

 

 

Gonna need to see Trump's birth certificate now.

[WhatTheBuck 28788]

1 minute ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Gonna need to see Trump's birth certificate now.

I’d rather see his death certificate. 

[hobbes2702 13045]

36 minutes ago, MrBig said:

Nancy should know better than to bring up how well she treated ex-Speaker Dennis Hastert (who is now a convicted pedophile) just to make her point about how fucked up they’re treating her.

This is the type of shit Qs love to use when creating fairytales about Dems being a bunch of fucking pedophiles. “Well Nancy gave Dennis the good office so he could diddle kids privately, and his office was well known as the gathering spot for all the liberal Democrat pedophiles to worship Satan in between House votes…” I can hear it now being twisted to blame the Dems again. 

[Bookman 4639]

1 minute ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Gonna need to see Trump's birth certificate now.

Please please please have a vote on it and have Trump lose. He will call it rigged, blame the voting machines, file 55+ lawsuits, and have his simpleton army storm the Capitol.

[Brisketexan 105158]

Y’all who seem to think that Trump won’t be speaker because “he doesn’t know how to do the job and doesn’t want to do the job”…dudes. He felt the same way about the presidency, and he was happy to hold that office for 4 years and wants it to be 4 more. Because it’s not about the office or the job. It’s about the ego, the worship, the cult, playing to the crowd, being a reality Tv star, etc.
His tenure as speaker will be just like his tenure as POTUS: zero leadership or accomplishments, just 20 new outrageous statements, ideas, etc per day.
It’s going to happen. And y’all know it is.

[Neonmoon 38129]

The Freedom caucus are chaos agents. They don’t want a functioning government. There isn’t a person they will support. Only 45 days until a shutdown 

[High Plains Drifter 11050]

4 hours ago, UTGrad98 said:

Chat GPT just told me this

The absence of a Speaker of the House is a significant disruption to the legislative process. It means that the House cannot pass any bills, and it also means that the House cannot investigate or impeach the president.

 

hello shutdown in 40 whatever days

[Satchel 6938]

Normally, MTG and Boebert would be mugging for the cameras and making fools of themselves. Why have they been so quiet?

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Y’all who seem to think that Trump won’t be speaker because “he doesn’t know how to do the job and doesn’t want to do the job”…dudes. He felt the same way about the presidency, and he was happy to hold that office for 4 years and wants it to be 4 more. Because it’s not about the office or the job. It’s about the ego, the worship, the cult, playing to the crowd, being a reality Tv star, etc.
His tenure as speaker will be just like his tenure as POTUS: zero leadership or accomplishments, just 20 new outrageous statements, ideas, etc per day.
It’s going to happen. And y’all know it is.

Lol.  It’s beneath him.  He only wants to be King.  He tried to make himself one last time.  And he will try again if he wins.  But the only way is through the Presidency.  

[Pancho 44858]

[Pato del Muerto 52526]

And starting a new job doesn’t put the brakes on civil or criminal court proceedings. 
 

and there’s no way enough Rs would vote for him. 

Edited October 4, 2023 by Pato del Muerto

[Js1 85416]

Trump? Help the Republican Party?

oh no, it would have to benefit him somehow. Financially or something 

[SimonBolivar 10958]

5 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

And starting a new job doesn’t put the brakes on civil or criminal court proceedings. 
 

and there’s no way enough Rs would vote for him. 

What R is going to vote against him publicly? 

[YGIFS 19452]

Gee, not like he'd be above selling new committee assignments for cash or PAC donations.  Nothing can stop a speaker from overhauling committee slots in the middle of a seated Congress.  

What he's likely going to do is try and have Biden and Harris removed from Earth so he can re-assume the POTUS spot without the nuisance of an election.  Oh right, right...he doesn't have any loyal known traitors on the inside of the Secret Service.  Totes forgot.  

[High Plains Drifter 11050]

1 hour ago, MrBig said:

Nancy should know better than to bring up how well she treated ex-Speaker Dennis Hastert (who is now a convicted pedophile) just to make her point about how fucked up they’re treating her.

This is the type of shit Qs love to use when creating fairytales about Dems being a bunch of fucking pedophiles. “Well Nancy gave Dennis the good office so he could diddle kids privately, and his office was well known as the gathering spot for all the liberal Democrat pedophiles to worship Satan in between House votes…” I can hear it now being twisted to blame the Dems again. 

 

Fuck em. Let em froth.

 

[Pato del Muerto 52526]

8 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

What R is going to vote against him publicly? 

There’s like 215 of them. They don’t all like the guy. Shit, they could have done this a year ago but they were determined to go round and round until McCarthy neutered himself enough to get it- which allowed for this to happen with one vote in the first place. 

[Brisketexan 105158]

Lol.  It’s beneath him.  He only wants to be King.  He tried to make himself one last time.  And he will try again if he wins.  But the only way is through the Presidency.  

Dude. The answer is “both.” He wants to hold both. At the same time. What’s that, you think he can’t? [laughs in Alito]

What R is going to vote against him publicly? 

BINGO.
The entire party fears their base.
The speakership is Trump’s if he wants it.

[CTC2 2797]

1 hour ago, Bullneck said:

 

 

Got to be a Russian bot. 

[Gourmand 7774]

33 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

The Freedom caucus are chaos agents. They don’t want a functioning government. 

You're a smart guy. I never expected you to misspell "Republican Party".....

 

 

[The Dog 44063]

Slight complication to Speaker Trump.

 

Edited October 4, 2023 by The Dog

[Biff Tannen 45691]

3 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Slight complication to Speaker Trump.

As if rules can’t be changed

[Brisketexan 105158]

[/url] Slight complication to Speaker Trump.
 

Yeah. There’s no way the GQP caucus would repeal that rule.

If Trump wants it, it’s his.

[YGIFS 19452]

Yeah 218 votes to overlook the fact he isn't a House Members, isn't under indictment for violating the 14th amendment, and won't fuck them over in 2024 election efforts to maintain the house, and will be a horrible Speaker.  But 218 votes to overturn bullshit Rule 26.......that's just beyond the pale for these people?  That''s gonna be the big sticking point?  Come on man.  That's the fucking easy part.  It'll be done by Columbus Day.  The real shitshow starts next week. 

[The Dog 44063]

They aren’t even going to let Trump come to a vote. Doing so guarantees the Democrats get the House in 2024.

[YGIFS 19452]

Good point.  A MAGA "student of the constitution" reminds us that a new Congress is seated in 2025 before the 2024 Presidential election results are tabulated by the Congress and weeks before an inauguration.  Throwing the House (and possibly again with the Senate) back to the Democrats would negate their efforts to reseat electors and/or have the election taken back to the States.  

but the civil war is coming.  He's going to rile up his base not to storm the Capitol, but to pressure their Reps to install him as House Speaker and then order them, in vague terms, to take out Biden and Harris, thus elevating him to POTUS.  When he can then pardon himself.  This was never a Mason-Dixon or Blue State/Red State civil war.  They're going to murder one another and their own government.  Forget ammo, buy gold and canned food.  2024 is going to be fucking insane.  

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

36 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Trump? Help the Republican Party?

oh no, it would have to benefit him somehow. Financially or something 

Exactly.  Wtf would it do for him?  The house is dogshit compared to the senate.  Once someone explains what the house and senate are he will back down.  

[tx 3 putt 77073]

Nehls from fort hand county has already nominated trump for speaker 

[hpslugga 4062]

1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

Exactly. They're going to make claims like those either way. They've become the Westboro Baptist Church of politics. "There are only two types of people who aren't us: fags pedophiles and fag pedophile enablers."

[tokamak 6431]

I guess nothing should surprise me anymore, but it’s crazy and more than a little disheartening that McCarthy and his allies immediately started trying to blame the Dems for this. How does any voter not see right through that horseshit?

[Ted Lange 16110]

[Mdhorn 5972]

53 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Exactly.  Wtf would it do for him?  The house is dogshit compared to the senate.  Once someone explains what the house and senate are he will back down.  

Trump thought the president was a king.  He has no clue what the speaker does, nor cares.  If he is told that the position can serve him, then he will pursue it.  People act like he's playing chess, checkers, or battleship, but he's incapable of winning at any of these.  He's an oaf that eats hamberders and drinks his water with both hands.  His handlers are the ones that direct him on the position, which is why everybody around him was and is complicit.  He did not know the first thing about Executive orders, pardons, laws, Bill of and Constitutional Rights, or navigating the position of Chief Executive.  He was guided the whole way.   And if someone explains to him that the Speaker of the House is the most powerful position in office and oversees the president, then he'll become Speaker. But people still applying logic to any of this after the past 6+ years and counting, have learned nothing.  The rule of law will only apply to him when it hangs or jails him, and not a moment before.      

[Hermanator 7111]

1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Exactly.  Wtf would it do for him?  The house is dogshit compared to the senate.  Once someone explains what the house and senate are he will back down.  

And therein lies the problem. The vast majority of people in America have no idea this is going on. My wife barely knows and I'd be surprised if any member of her family knows. Americans, even very educated ones, have largely been conditioned to tune out because it's just all so much bullshit. The Republic is in ruin. 

[C-Man 27230]

That a-hole Burchett from Tennessee who said Chip Roy is a smart man who’d make a wonderful Speaker was on CNN a few mins ago and floated some truly awful names for McCarthy’s replacement — Jim Jordan, Elise Stefanek. He said Mark Green or Scalise. Said they could probably pass those on the first vote.

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

19 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

Trump thought the president was a king.  He has no clue what the speaker does, nor cares.  If he is told that the position can serve him, then he will pursue it.  People act like he's playing chess, checkers, or battleship, but he's incapable of winning at any of these.  He's an oaf that eats hamberders and drinks his water with both hands.  His handlers are the ones that direct him on the position, which is why everybody around him was and is complicit.  He did not know the first thing about Executive orders, pardons, laws, Bill of and Constitutional Rights, or navigating the position of Chief Executive.  He was guided the whole way.   And if someone explains to him that the Speaker of the House is the most powerful position in office and oversees the president, then he'll become Speaker. But people still applying logic to any of this after the past 6+ years and counting, have learned nothing.  The rule of law will only apply to him when it hangs or jails him, and not a moment before.      

I agree with a lot of what you're saying but his handlers have tried to convince him several times to help the party and he gives absolutely zero fucks.  See the Georgia Senate race.  'Go help the R party and be speaker of the house' isn't gonna do a fucking thing for his two brain cells.  Sorry, but if there's something he knows, it's MEEEEEEEE. 

[TexasEd 8067]

10 hours ago, Js1 said:

There's only 425 in the House today (2 vacancies, 8 absences in the first attendance check), so he can only afford to lose 5. If all Dems vote aye (207), So far there's 4 - PedoGaetz, Crane, Goode, Burchett.  Biggs is a mystery and Buck was on TV bitching about McCarthy.  So it's going to be close. 

Hell the Dems should get a few Rs in Biden won districts to switch parties.

 

[Mdhorn 5972]

32 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I agree with a lot of what you're saying but his handlers have tried to convince him several times to help the party and he gives absolutely zero fucks.  See the Georgia Senate race.  'Go help the R party and be speaker of the house' isn't gonna do a fucking thing for his two brain cells.  Sorry, but if there's something he knows, it's MEEEEEEEE. 

Yep, if he thinks it can bungle any of his trials or run out the clock, he's all in.  He needs help from above and the closest thing to a lifeline is Speaker at this very moment.  Logic and the limits of the position says it can't, but what's his alternative? They created a law stating that the president could not be tried while in office just for him.  I half assed expect SCOTUS to rule that Trump as speaker couldn't be tried while in office, based on bullshit.  

Aside from needing a fatter chimp, how prescient was Stanley Kubrick to envision Trump as Speaker:

 

Edited October 4, 2023 by Mdhorn

[CTC2 2797]

Trump becomes Speaker;

Trump fails to pass a budget funding Special Prosecutor;

Profit

 

you know that’s what he’s thinking. 

[naija 2868]

what happens in 40-something odd days when the spending bill provisions expire?

[henrygandorf 29192]

man i had forgotten about this thread.  what a fun week that was.

[Rimbo 25978]

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“Speaker McCarthy has repeatedly chosen to weaken the institution by bending to extremists rather than collaborating across the aisle,” said Representative Derek Kilmer, Democrat of Washington. “He has inherited the chaos he has sown.”

Gift link to NYTimes article.

[henrygandorf 29192]

 

[Fastbreak 3988]

The dems really fucked this up as usual. Who do they think is going to be the next speaker? Some middle of the road dude? No, it’s going to be some Q fuck face who will be 50x worse. They could have neutered Goetz and Q, but now they have empowered them…