the 2023 speaker of the house voting thread of implosion

[hornmpa96 2,618]

Since he is so tiny, he has been trying to look older than his age for many years. He just didn’t stop that process once he turned 40.

[Horn Dogg 3,897]

55 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Two weeks behind, apparently. 

I drink a lot, takes time to catch up.

[henrygandorf 29,191]

ok so lawler was just on cnn bemoaning the non-cooperation by the dems.  blah blah.  but just for shits and giggs, let's game this out.

for the dems to "cooperate", they would need to find a moderate republican (?) and basically say "find four friends and let's do this, here's what we want..."  the dems aren't ever going to "cooperate" by just saying fuck it and voting for mccarthy, jordan, or scalise, we already know this and i applaud their consistency on it.

if the above scenario played out, and they found that candidate, and made him speaker, would the republicans all just be cool with it?  i don't feel like they would be, especially since deals would be in place with those 217 people and they would be cut out of the process that they currently have a literal majority over.

although it would be hilarious to just see those votes pass with 217 every time while the gop squirmed in their seats and shouted to fox news and started fundraising off of it and trashed the 5 republicans...which is all probably what they want anyway.  and if they want something, by definition, we should not give it to them.

so i guess what i'm asking is, when the pubs ask for (or complain about) cooperation from the dems, what does that look like in their world?  history has shown us these people cannot be trusted, so once again, i'm cool sticking with the plan.  no reasonable person thinks the dems are at fault here, so yeah.  fuck all that.

 

 

Edited October 18, 2023 by henrygandorf

[Michael Knight 12,977]

At this point I think Hakeem Jefferies has received more votes for Speaker of the House than any person in US History

[The Dog 44,051]

[Red Five 40,858]

Approaching Houston rodeo territory with that. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,512]

17 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

ok so lawler was just on cnn bemoaning the non-cooperation by the dems.  blah blah.  but just for shits and giggs, let's game this out.

for the dems to "cooperate", they would need to find a moderate republican (?) and basically say "find four friends and let's do this, here's what we want..."  the dems aren't ever going to "cooperate" by just saying fuck it and voting for mccarthy, jordan, or scalise, we already know this and i applaud their consistency on it.

if the above scenario played out, and they found that candidate, and made him speaker, would the republicans all just be cool with it?  i don't feel like they would be, especially since deals would be in place with those 217 people and they would be cut out of the process that they currently have a literal majority over.

although it would be hilarious to just see those votes pass with 217 every time while the gop squirmed in their seats and shouted to fox news and started fundraising off of it and trashed the 5 republicans...which is all probably what they want anyway.  and if they want something, by definition, we should not give it to them.

so i guess what i'm asking is, when the pubs ask for (or complain about) cooperation from the dems, what does that look like in their world?  history has shown us these people cannot be trusted, so once again, i'm cool sticking with the plan.  no reasonable person thinks the dems are at fault here, so yeah.  fuck all that.

 

 

Some in the GOP definitely want some Dems to vote for whomever the GOP nominates. McCarthy, Scalise or Jordan.  That attitude is why can't the Dems save the Republicans from themselves?

If a handful in the GOP voted with the Dems to either give the Speaker to Jefferies or even a GOP "moderate", the GOP would explode in that room. It wouldn't shock me if McHenry found a method to stop that vote from completing. 

[The Dog 44,051]

[Js1 85,336]

2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Some in the GOP definitely want some Dems to vote for whomever the GOP nominates. McCarthy, Scalise or Jordan.  That attitude is why can't the Dems save the Republicans from themselves?

The thing is, they want the Dems to do that WITH NO INCENTIVES 

[Pato del Muerto 52,498]

Are people only allowed to make the speakers meme with one person at a time?  

[Brisketexan 105,139]

2 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Typo.  The topic is "Michael McDonald AS Speaker of the House."

You guys, you keep forgetting Michael McDonald.

[henrygandorf 29,191]

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The thing is, they want the Dems to do that WITH NO INCENTIVES 

like i told my doctor at my physical when he said he wanted me down to 168, we all want things we can't have.

[Biff Tannen 45,685]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Typo.  The topic is "Michael McDonald AS Speaker of the House."

You guys, you keep forgetting Michael McDonald.

[The Dog 44,051]

[texasdago 7,573]

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

fact check - true. lol. 

That dude is going to pass out Werther's candy to nail down the speakership

[BamaATL 16,593]

10 minutes ago, texasdago said:

That dude is going to pass out Werther's candy to nail down the speakership

I still say he is the little shit from the Problem Child movies all grown up.  

[The Dog 44,051]

 

[HornOnTheBayou 8,922]

11 minutes ago, texasdago said:

That dude is going to pass out Werther's candy to nail down the speakership

Maybe he could pull a quarter out of Jordan's ear to win him over?

[Satchel 6,938]

Why are Gaetz, MTG, and Granny so quiet? Up until very recently, the most dangerous place in Washington was the space between them and a TV camera or microphone. Where are they?

[Underdog 28,633]

20 minutes ago, texasdago said:

That dude is going to pass out Werther's candy to nail down the speakership

Or become Mgr of the Cincinnati Reds. 

[RDCanecutter 26,442]

1 hour ago, Aqua Buddha said:

He's younger than I am but could pass for my dad.

Same here except no one would believe I'd been sired by a bow-tied munchkin.

[Chewbacca 7,777]

5 hours ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

I had to change my phone number from that shit. My grandmom is like 1000 years old and put me on one of those lists. Literally 10+ texts a day with some version of:

NANCY PELOSI WILL EAT YOUR BABIES!

DONATE HERE

How does one put someone on these lists?  Asking for a friend.

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25 minutes ago, texasdago said:

That dude is going to pass out Werther's candy to nail down the speakership

So you're saying he has one of these on his desk?

[Js1 85,336]

7 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Why are Gaetz, MTG, and Granny so quiet? Up until very recently, the most dangerous place in Washington was the space between them and a TV camera or microphone. Where are they?

A good question, actually 

[texasdago 7,573]

Looks like he might hold a press conference

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4 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Looks like he might hold a press conference

RIP Leslie

[Biff Tannen 45,685]

Austin Scott on CNN just being a disingenuous fuckhead.  "Oh it's 208 democrats that caused this".  Fuck.  Right.  Off.

[A-Tex Devil 2,446]

so, um, now what?
 

[Chewbacca 7,777]

3 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Don't they bitch extensively about cancel culture?

 

Well, not when they're doing the canceling!  duh

[ConferenceRoom 6,141]

5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Austin Scott on CNN just being a disingenuous fuckhead.  "Oh it's 208 democrats that caused this".  Fuck.  Right.  Off.

Let me guess: CNN let him get away with it, too. Zero pushback whatsoever? 

[TheRealRonWeaver? 1,258]

1 hour ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

The vigor he put behind that gavel smash wasn't for nothing. 

I'M A MAN! *SMASH!*

I'm 47!!!

[Pato del Muerto 52,498]

LauBoe (pronounced lobo natch) can’t afford to talk about it- she won her district by like 25 votes. She’s not winning any other elections so unless she’s ready to exit the leg and be a talking head for a living she needs to keep quiet.

[The Dog 44,051]

 

[The Dog 44,051]

 

[Satchel 6,938]

Five Republican from Biden districts could immediately enlarge their sphere of influence by switching parties right now. The downside of doing so in unclear at this point, unless of course you consider MAGA death threats against them and their families.

[henrygandorf 29,191]

30 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Why are Gaetz, MTG, and Granny so quiet? Up until very recently, the most dangerous place in Washington was the space between them and a TV camera or microphone. Where are they?

spitballing here, but i would think gaetz had a plan to oust km, replace him with someone new, and ride off into the sunset like the conquering hero, giving all the interviews his filthy mouth would allow.  things did not go well, and now we're here, which might explain his silence.  the other two, no idea.  actually i'm not even sure who granny is.

['stache 21,815]

Would the loons support McHenry or do they see him same as McCarthy since he chose him as his sloppy second?

Edited October 18, 2023 by 'stache

[Pato del Muerto 52,498]

2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

i'm not even sure who granny is.

New Boobert

[Captain Ron 12,876]

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

ok so lawler was just on cnn bemoaning the non-cooperation by the dems.  blah blah.  but just for shits and giggs, let's game this out.

for the dems to "cooperate", they would need to find a moderate republican (?) and basically say "find four friends and let's do this, here's what we want..."  the dems aren't ever going to "cooperate" by just saying fuck it and voting for mccarthy, jordan, or scalise, we already know this and i applaud their consistency on it.

if the above scenario played out, and they found that candidate, and made him speaker, would the republicans all just be cool with it?  i don't feel like they would be, especially since deals would be in place with those 217 people and they would be cut out of the process that they currently have a literal majority over.

although it would be hilarious to just see those votes pass with 217 every time while the gop squirmed in their seats and shouted to fox news and started fundraising off of it and trashed the 5 republicans...which is all probably what they want anyway.  and if they want something, by definition, we should not give it to them.

so i guess what i'm asking is, when the pubs ask for (or complain about) cooperation from the dems, what does that look like in their world?  history has shown us these people cannot be trusted, so once again, i'm cool sticking with the plan.  no reasonable person thinks the dems are at fault here, so yeah.  fuck all that.

 

 

I don't usually wade in here, but today's hijinks it just too much.

First just want to say this, all of this. If republicans want cooperation, they better start by putting forth a reasonable candidate. Second, they better start making deals to get cooperation from Democrats - like guaranteeing dropping a farce of a impeachment inquiry, for starters. Otherwise there is no reason for them to agree to anything. 

And despite saying it over and over, republicans can't get the story to stick that this is somehow the Dems fault. This was setup by and then triggered by Gaetz and a few others. People that most reasonable people understand have no clue how government works, a listen to this interview of congressman Tim Burchett of Tennessee is evident of that.

 

1 hour ago, Michael Knight said:

At this point I think Hakeem Jefferies has received more votes for Speaker of the House than any person in US History

Washington Post has said he has.

 

30 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Why are Gaetz, MTG, and Granny so quiet? Up until very recently, the most dangerous place in Washington was the space between them and a TV camera or microphone. Where are they?

Probably because right now Gaetz and the gang are persona non grata. I think they thought this would be over in a day or two. 3 weeks later the mess they created is out for everyone to see.

[Foosters 17,856]

51 minutes ago, Underdog said:

Or become Mgr of the Cincinnati Reds. 

Its true.

Sparky Anderson was 41 years old in this pic:

[South Austin 52,504]

40 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Austin Scott on CNN just being a disingenuous fuckhead.  "Oh it's 208 democrats that caused this".  Fuck.  Right.  Off.

Republicans gaslight just as bad as my ex wife.

[The Dog 44,051]

8 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Five Republican from Biden districts could immediately enlarge their sphere of influence by switching parties right now. The downside of doing so in unclear at this point, unless of course you consider MAGA death threats against them and their families.

the issue for them would be their voting history and they would be easy targets for being primaried from the left. in order to do a switch they would need guarantees that wouldn't happen (at least for 2024). 

the most logical scenario would be for them to simply become independent. In order for that to work each would need to have a brand strong enough in their district(s) along with the financial infrastructure to hold onto the job without the benefit of a major political party's backing. 

8 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

And despite saying it over and over, republicans can't get the story to stick that this is somehow the Dems fault.

I mean it is technically true that McCarthy was ousted because the entire Democratic caucus went along with the vote to vacate. 

The problem is that the Republicans' dysfunction and infighting being played out in public is now dominating the news cycle, so any attempts to pin this on the Democrats is going to fall flat. Even right wing media isn't buying that narrative. 

[Macanudo 12,978]

15 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

If republicans want cooperation, they better start by putting forth a reasonable candidate.

There is no reasonable candidate.   Any moderate Republican who has voted for Jordan is coward.  

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13,585]

23 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Trump's endorsement of Jordan is aging like a fine milk.

[henrygandorf 29,191]

22 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

And despite saying it over and over, republicans can't get the story to stick that this is somehow the Dems fault. This was setup by and then triggered by Gaetz and a few others.

gaetz was one of the few giving interviews saying it wasn't the dems fault.  of course he was in the process of burying mccarthy, so it helped his narrative to say so.

[henrygandorf 29,191]

31 minutes ago, The Dog said:

they can't govern for shit.  they can't lead, they can't budget, they can't pass legislation.  they're braindead mules and illiterate toddlers.

but when it comes to obstruction, they're master fucking strategists.

[Horn Dogg 3,897]

58 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Looks like he might hold a press conference

Is that the same guy that makes 100 year decisions for aggy?

[SydneyCarton 48,106]

31 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

spitballing here, but i would think gaetz had a plan to oust km, replace him with someone new, and ride off into the sunset like the conquering hero, giving all the interviews his filthy mouth would allow.  things did not go well, and now we're here, which might explain his silence.  the other two, no idea.  actually i'm not even sure who granny is.

 

29 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

New Boobert

I mean I just assumed granny was Gymbo Jordan. 

[The Dog 44,051]

 

 

[Js1 85,336]

7 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

but when it comes to obstruction, they're master fucking strategists.

“Party of No”