the 2023 speaker of the house voting thread of implosion

[G650 14253]

6 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I was having lunch with a buddy today, and we were both expressing how we can't understand people get so angry at admitting that they might have had an easier time becuase they are white males. It doesn't diminsh anything hard you've done, it doesn't mean you haven't worked hard, it doesn't mean you haven't earned what you've gotten, it just means you can acknowledge that you've probably been dealt a better hand than many in this world. 

Which is weird, as most people would admit that being born in America in general versus anywhere else in the world means you were born on 3rd base. And that doesn't damage anyone's egos at all, but somehow being a white male to many means your achievements have been marginalized. 

I just don't understand the anger and grievance people most generate. I wonder, how many of thsoe people would trade being a white male for anything else? Because the answer is zero, and not just because they're inherently racist.

I really wonder this too. It's just so bizarre

[Hank Scorpio 17729]

I love my black son. 

[SydneyCarton 48081]

34 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

yep.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3413535/1

 

I'll save you having to click on that shite:

 

A coalition of blacks, Latinos, feminists, gays, government workers, union members, environmental extremists, the media, Hollywood, uninformed young people, the "forever needy," the chronically unemployed that do not want to work, illegal aliens, and other "fellow travelers" have ended.........Norman Rockwell's America.

You will never again out-vote these people. It will take individual acts of defiance and massive displays of civil disobedience to regain the rights we have allowed them to take away. It will take zealots, not moderates and shy, not reach-across-the-aisle RINOs (Republicans In Name Only) to right this ship and restore our beloved country to its former status.

and

This is why I have come to admire the founding fathers all the more. Subsequent politicians lifting merit based restrictions on who got to vote resulted in irreparable damage and ultimately the destruction of the American Dream.

and

OP is right we pretty much a third world country at this point better learn Spanish amigos.

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There is no room for white males in todays society.

 

 

That's only the first half of the first page of the thread. All I could stomach.

 

I actually made it through page 2. There was more push back than I expected, honestly. 

1 minute ago, Hank Scorpio said:

I love my black son. 

Nice to have you here, Mr. Speaker.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

2 hours ago, 'stache said:

Over/under on his tenure? I’d say 2.5 Scaramuccis.

I believe he goes the distance (January 2025) because Trump believes he needs him. 

Also, no one wants this job or the headache of electing another speaker. 

 

[Goofyboy 3288]

I was having lunch with a buddy today, and we were both expressing how we can't understand people get so angry at admitting that they might have had an easier time becuase they are white males. It doesn't diminsh anything hard you've done, it doesn't mean you haven't worked hard, it doesn't mean you haven't earned what you've gotten, it just means you can acknowledge that you've probably been dealt a better hand than many in this world. 

Which is weird, as most people would admit that being born in America in general versus anywhere else in the world means you were born on 3rd base. And that doesn't damage anyone's egos at all, but somehow being a white male to many means your achievements have been marginalized. 

I just don't understand the anger and grievance people most generate. I wonder, how many of thsoe people would trade being a white male for anything else? Because the answer is zero, and not just because they're inherently racist.

It’s in the messaging: white privilege. Two words that do not fully explain the whole concept and most people are too lazy / dumb to look past the label and understand the context. It’s right up there with critical race theory.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I believe he goes the distance (January 2025) because Trump believes he needs him. 

Also, no one wants this job or the headache of electing another speaker. 

 

Agreed.

['stache 21805]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I believe he goes the distance (January 2025) because Trump believes he needs him. 

Also, no one wants this job or the headache of electing another speaker. 

 

A certain pedophile from Florida might disagree.

[Sbbruin 21847]

20 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I was having lunch with a buddy today, and we were both expressing how we can't understand people get so angry at admitting that they might have had an easier time becuase they are white males. It doesn't diminsh anything hard you've done, it doesn't mean you haven't worked hard, it doesn't mean you haven't earned what you've gotten, it just means you can acknowledge that you've probably been dealt a better hand than many in this world. 

Which is weird, as most people would admit that being born in America in general versus anywhere else in the world means you were born on 3rd base. And that doesn't damage anyone's egos at all, but somehow being a white male to many means your achievements have been marginalized. 

I just don't understand the anger and grievance people most generate. I wonder, how many of thsoe people would trade being a white male for anything else? Because the answer is zero, and not just because they're inherently racist.

Bullshit, I've worked hard for everything I've achieved. Now let me take a break from screwing around on this message board while I go head to my yacht.  #thestruggleisreal

[Ojo Rojo 1963]

Let's see if I have this right.  The only person who could be elected Speaker of the House had to have checked the following boxes:

-Fealty to Trump.

-Not too far out front on overturning the election.

-Odious to all but Christo-fascists.

-Milquetoast.

[Macanudo 12976]

1 hour ago, Zonahorn said:

Originally there were property requirements to vote. Also infamously during segregation the racists loved poll taxes and tests.

Yes, I'm aware of that.   White male landowners.   My point is that "merit" in that case isn't something that can be earned by, oh, 60-80% of the population.  

[Zonahorn 8079]

1 minute ago, Macanudo said:

Yes, I'm aware of that.   White male landowners.   My point is that "merit" in that case isn't something that can be earned by, oh, 60-80% of the population.  

That’s the point 

[Superhero 8829]

40 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

I love my black son. 

I love my imaginary black son the same way I love my real Asian kids. They're so alike, except he’s imaginary.

[BamaATL 16593]

2 minutes ago, Superhero said:

I love my imaginary black son the same way I love my real Asian kids. They're so alike, except he’s imaginary.

I'm looking forward to your critiques, Woody Allen.  

[The Dog 44023]

Some of GOP loonies have even floated the idea that only people with college degrees should vote.

Remember, they can't count.

Edited October 26, 2023 by The Dog

[Pods 7552]

14 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Let's see if I have this right.  The only person who could be elected Speaker of the House had to have checked the following boxes:

-Fealty to Trump.

-Not too far out front on overturning the election.

-Odious to all but Christo-fascists.

-Milquetoast.

Scratch off #2. 

 

He's one of the seditious fucks MOST responsible for trying to overturn the election. The other seditious fucks approve of him, or are too stupid to look even slightly into his record. 

[royiv 9297]

6 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Some of GOP loonies have even floated the idea that only people with college degrees should vote.

Remember, they can't count.

Their dear leader loves the uneducated.

[Biff Tannen 45677]

29 minutes ago, Superhero said:

I love my imaginary black son the same way I love my real Asian kids. They're so alike, except he’s imaginary.

I think I heard your wife is imaginary too, so he probably just takes after her in that sense.

15 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Some of GOP loonies have even floated the idea that only people with college degrees should vote.

Remember, they can't count.

God, can we please make this happen?  Just for the ultimate Gritty memes?

[Chewbacca 7774]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I believe he goes the distance (January 2025) because Trump believes he needs him. 

Also, no one wants this job or the headache of electing another speaker. 

 

Gaetz might if Johnson pisses him off.  

[tx 3 putt 76917]

[Underdog 28616]

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

15 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Gaetz might if Johnson pisses him off.  

Gaetz would need Trump’s approval (doubtful) and I have a hard time believing Gaetz plays the same card twice. 

[Chewbacca 7774]

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Gaetz would need Trump’s approval (doubtful) and I have a hard time believing Gaetz plays the same card twice. 

I dunno, he sure seemed to like the chaos and attention he got.  Or Marge might do it because she's not getting the attention she wants.  I'm not saying it will happen, but with only 1 vote required on a MTV, it certainly could happen again.

[tx 3 putt 76917]

 

[F250 28768]

2 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

There is no room for white males that majored in meat science in todays society.

Fify

[Tuco 5076]

I was having lunch with a buddy today, and we were both expressing how we can't understand people get so angry at admitting that they might have had an easier time becuase they are white males. It doesn't diminsh anything hard you've done, it doesn't mean you haven't worked hard, it doesn't mean you haven't earned what you've gotten, it just means you can acknowledge that you've probably been dealt a better hand than many in this world. 

Which is weird, as most people would admit that being born in America in general versus anywhere else in the world means you were born on 3rd base. And that doesn't damage anyone's egos at all, but somehow being a white male to many means your achievements have been marginalized. 

I just don't understand the anger and grievance people most generate. I wonder, how many of thsoe people would trade being a white male for anything else? Because the answer is zero, and not just because they're inherently racist.

Are you and your buddy blue collar workers whose wages haven’t kept up with inflation? Do you live in the dying slums know as rural America?

I get it. It’s hard to say you been given an advantage when you see yourself doing worse than the generation prior. When you’re doing worse than your average black man. That can be a tough reality to accept. Doesn’t make it less real. Trump sells them something easier to believe.

[Underdog 28616]

7 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

The best people. 

[SydneyCarton 48081]

19 hours ago, Tuco said:

Are you and your buddy blue collar workers whose wages haven’t kept up with inflation? Do you live in the dying slums know as rural America?

I get it. It’s hard to say you been given an advantage when you see yourself doing worse than the generation prior. When you’re doing worse than your average black man. That can be a tough reality to accept. Doesn’t make it less real. Trump sells them something easier to believe.

Are they on average doing worre than the average black man? Listen, I get what trump is selling. But the people buying are a ton of white, well off, affluent and successful people who rose from the ashes of “lower middle class.” This is the point of my confusion. 

Edited October 27, 2023 by SydneyCarton

[TexEx15 17510]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

Some of GOP loonies have even floated the idea that only people with college degrees should vote.

Remember, they can't count.

Lol that would be great. Quickest way out of this mess to be honest.

[tx 3 putt 76917]

😂😂😂

 

[Smax 3800]

Some of GOP loonies have even floated the idea that only people with college degrees should vote.
Remember, they can't count.

If you can't vote, surely you can't hold office right ged granny?

[Zonahorn 8079]

https://www.ettingermentum.news/p/good-old-fashioned-political-failure
God damn

[henrygandorf 29189]

23 hours ago, pacman said:

 

 

moral lapses at the superbowl.  is he talking about the pass interference?

[tx 3 putt 76917]

23 hours ago, pacman said:

 

 

This is a deeply disturbed human being 

[Captain Ron 12876]

4 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I believe he goes the distance (January 2025) because Trump believes he needs him. 

Also, no one wants this job or the headache of electing another speaker. 

 

I don't think he goes the distance because of Trump. I think he goes the distance because I think he has enough runway to not ever be forced out.

I look at it like this - he is going to get a free pass for the November deal. So long as it's just stop gap to whatever the caucus gives him. Rumor is that the deal will be either January (very short) or April. I would guess it would be April, to let the Republicans figure out the deal they want to work for in April. So he gets that long for free.

Unless that deal is absolute crap for the MAGA crowd, and with them who knows? But given that there is only a 1/2 year left until the election, there is no way you can have another shit show like this one, so I think he's safe.

 

Granted, with the MAGA types, who knows? They might just say fuck it at any time and pull the cord on the guy.

 

I can't even say that the moderates can do anything at this point. Because even if they MTV him, the next speaker pro tempore would be Johnson's guy, so there is no way they would let the moderates pull a deal with Dems the way that McHenry potentially could have.

[Gatorubet 30221]

It is stunning change in circumstances, just like every republican ran against Nancy Pelosi - every Democrat will be running against the Speaker of the House and his traitorous, homophobic, Handmaid’s Tale view of women - and his “We need to change their hearts, not ban guns ” ideas.  The Talabaptists will love him, but he will be an easy target to point to in debates when the GQP opponent has to admit he voted for him - allowing the Democrat to say, “See-  this is what they’re gonna do if I don’t win!”
That weird little backbencher has been sitting in Congress without anyone taking notice of him.  He is about to get all the attention in the world, and the DNC will be combing through every word he ever wrote or said, and sharing it with the voting electorate.    

[High Plains Drifter 11044]

6 hours ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Let's see if I have this right.  The only person who could be elected Speaker of the House had to have checked the following boxes:

-Fealty to Trump.

-Not too far out front on overturning the election.

-Odious to all but Christo-fascists.

-Milquetoast.

 

*Milk Toast

 

[TexasEd 8066]

Yes, he has a black son. His name is Navin R Johnson. 
 

Spoiler

 

[pacman 7355]

 

 

[elfenix 34234]

On 10/25/2023 at 8:03 PM, pacman said:

 

 

turns out it was the doom of the republic but it was because of dorks like mike's reaction to gay marriage and a black president

[Burt 4080]

You guys have misunderstood him. He doesn't have a black son, he has a 'boy.'

[Fastbreak 3985]

His black son, Randolph Mortimer Johnson III, is super lucky. Blonde hair, blue eyes, pale skin, runs a 4.2 40 and has a 9 inch cock.

[NWBuck 8552]

12 hours ago, Macanudo said:

There are no middle of the road Republicans.

And the ones that are there don't have any swerve marks or skid patterns near their bodies

[Pods 7552]

8 hours ago, elfenix said:

turns out it was the doom of the republic but it was because of dorks like mike's reaction to gay marriage and a black president

Not just gay marriage. Dude is flat out anti any premarital "sexual conduct". 

Quote

“States have always maintained the right to discourage the evils of sexual conduct outside marriage”

I don't mean to diminish the very real threat the GQP poses to our LGBTQ+ posters, but I want to focus on the implications of that broader statement. Saying pre-marital sexual conduct is evil and that states can discourage it is extreme Christofascist bullshit.

Also he's a lawyer who is watching his language. He's usually very precise in how he says things. Note he didn't just call out premarital sex, he specifically said ALL "sexual conduct outside marriage" is evil and governments have the right to discourage that "evil". That is really broad. 

He just skipped quite a few places on the "First they came for the _____" list. 

As awful as he is, the GQP forcing Mike Johnson's Puritanical values on the rest of us is doing everyone a massive favor, because it's ripping the cover back quickly to show what's underneath. I actually appreciate his hubris and audacity, because the enablers love to say that these kind of posts are hyperbole, while Johnson's own words show that the threat is very real and represents a threat to all of us. 

We're at the "they are coming for us" part of the list while there are still a lot of us left. We have to hope enough of us are listening to do something about it while we still can. 

Edited October 27, 2023 by Pods

[The Dog 44023]

 

[SydneyCarton 48081]

29 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Yeah...get the lettuce. 

[Ojo Rojo 1963]

9 hours ago, pacman said:

 

 

Ladies and gentlemen, the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, second in line to the presidency.

[Captain Ron 12876]

Some points about Mike Johnson's "son" Michael.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/whats-up-with-speaker-mike-johnsons-black-son

TL;DR - he's 40, he was taken in by the Johnson's when they took in Michael was 14 years old. A lot of people have focused in on this interview:

And it sounds like he's talking about two 14-year olds. But at the 0:30 second mark he age separates them. The family history is actually shared earlier in the interview which is not included on these clips.

The whole story is outlined in the article.

[Biff Tannen 45677]

2 hours ago, Pods said:

Not just gay marriage. Dude is flat out anti any premarital "sexual conduct". 

I don't mean to diminish the very real threat the GQP poses to our LGBTQ+ posters, but I want to focus on the implications of that broader statement. Saying pre-marital sexual conduct is evil and that states can discourage it is extreme Christofascist bullshit.

Also he's a lawyer who is watching his language. He's usually very precise in how he says things. Note he didn't just call out premarital sex, he specifically said ALL "sexual conduct outside marriage" is evil and governments have the right to discourage that "evil". That is really broad. 

He just skipped quite a few places on the "First they came for the _____" list. 

As awful as he is, the GQP forcing Mike Johnson's Puritanical values on the rest of us is doing everyone a massive favor, because it's ripping the cover back quickly to show what's underneath. I actually appreciate his hubris and audacity, because the enablers love to say that these kind of posts are hyperbole, while Johnson's own words show that the threat is very real and represents a threat to all of us. 

We're at the "they are coming for us" part of the list while there are still a lot of us left. We have to hope enough of us are listening to do something about it while we still can. 

He also thinks there were dinosaurs on Noah's ark, so I can see why you have a problem with him.

[Brisketexan 105100]

1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

He also thinks there were dinosaurs on Noah's ark, so I can see why you have a problem with him.

But does he think it's wrong to have pre-marital sex with a dinosaur?

Asking for a friend....

[kevwun 15776]

That dude keeps talking about fair treatment of minorities and sending aid to Ukraine and he's gonna piss off the hateful 8 and face removal.