the 2023 speaker of the house voting thread of implosion

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[Macanudo 13081]

Bwahaha.   More Ds voted for her motion than Rs.  By a 3-1 ratio.

[Pancho 45428]

16 minutes ago, miguelito said:

Is this tweet sarcastic?  MTG's been talking about doing this for weeks now.

Ask Annie

[YGIFS 19453]

21 minutes ago, miguelito said:

Is this tweet sarcastic?  MTG's been talking about doing this for weeks now.

Yeah, I gotta give her partial credit.  For once, a lunatic GOP'er screaming, "IN TWO WEEKS!" actually did something they promised within a fortnight.  

But if I'm the Democrats, I let this drag out as long as possible through procedural and floor debate drama.  It's one thing to humiliate her with such a resounding vote, but let her continue to humiliate herself and her party with some technicalities.  I don't get the rushed play here.  

[Pato del Muerto 52853]

7 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Yeah, I gotta give her partial credit.  For once, a lunatic GOP'er screaming, "IN TWO WEEKS!" actually did something they promised within a fortnight.  

But if I'm the Democrats, I let this drag out as long as possible through procedural and floor debate drama.  It's one thing to humiliate her with such a resounding vote, but let her continue to humiliate herself and her party with some technicalities.  I don't get the rushed play here.  

Let’s see if she does it again 

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

359-43 to kill the motion to take out Johnson

Moscow Marge just introduced coalition politics into the American system. 

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The Democrats need to write up a bill for 500 billion dollars and small tactical nukes for Ukraine and then tell Johnson that if he doesn’t let it up for a vote they’ll go tell Marge to file another motion they can vote for. 

[RDCanecutter 26550]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

MTG really is the perfect Trumpkin.  She worships at the altar of BEING A FUCKING LOSER WHO LOSES.

Marge is the cackling space monkey to Trump's Jabba the Hutt.

[TheStoicPaisano 9940]

Salacious B Crumb slander will not stand, man.

[YGIFS 19453]

28 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

Salacious B Crumb slander will not stand, man.

I think I fingered that chick at Niagara Falls on Spring Break '98.  Might have had a yeast infection though.

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1 hour ago, Macanudo said:

Bwahaha.   More Ds voted for her motion than Rs.  By a 3-1 ratio.

She’s a plant by Soros.  That’s what I’ll be telling my MAGA relatives.

54 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Let’s see if she does it again 

The result was humiliating for her.

So I’d say the chances of her doing it again will rise.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13596]

That went off about as well as her pipe bomb. 

[The Dog 44180]

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

359-43 to kill the motion to take out Johnson

Democrats held up their end of the deal. 

[Sawbonz 27776]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Let’s see if she does it again 

[Brisketexan 105569]

Marge is the cackling space monkey to Trump's Jabba the Hutt.

This…is perfection…..but also…

Salacious B Crumb slander will not stand, man.

…this. Salacious is 100x more leadership material than Three Toes.

[The Dog 44180]

Can she bring it up again if it’s already tabled?

['stache 21900]

1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The Democrats need to write up a bill for 500 billion dollars and small tactical nukes for Ukraine and then tell Johnson that if he doesn’t let it up for a vote they’ll go tell Marge to file another motion they can vote for. 

My view is that Jeffries should tell Johnson that they followed through with their promise to not go along if she raised the motion, and they kept that promise, but it can't be indefinite. .

"Mike, we kept our promise, now get your dog on a leash or all bets are off."

[BamaATL 16593]

7 minutes ago, 'stache said:

My view is that Jeffries should tell Johnson that they followed through with their promise to not go along if she raised the motion, and they kept that promise, but it can't be indefinite. .

"Mike, we kept our promise, now get your dog on a leash or all bets are off."

I don't know why on earth we'd agree to anything beyond a one time deal.  For that matter, who cares if Mike Johnson comes out and claims we operated in bad faith.  Screw him, and screw any Republican claiming a bad faith negotiation.  That's downright laughable coming from a party that has made it it's entire platform not deal in good faith.  

In short, fuck em.  

[Brisketexan 105569]

“Motion for a small change to the rules: you have to have at least four toes on each foot to make any motion.” That’ll shut her up right quick.

[BamaATL 16593]

6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

“Motion for a small change to the rules: you have to have at least four toes on each foot to make any motion.” That’ll shut her up right quick.

Ridiculous has that may be, I'm betting you could sneak it into a new rules package with a new speaker.  Just saying.  

[Jiggy-Z 3467]

Looks like Marge got a face full of Johnson.

[Brisketexan 105569]

Looks like Marge got a face full of Johnson.

Far from the first time.

Also, I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

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54 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

I don't know why on earth we'd agree to anything beyond a one time deal.  For that matter, who cares if Mike Johnson comes out and claims we operated in bad faith.  Screw him, and screw any Republican claiming a bad faith negotiation.  That's downright laughable coming from a party that has made it it's entire platform not deal in good faith.  

In short, fuck em.  

On the one hand, the Republican politicians are catering to the dumbest fucking voters in this country.

On the other hand, quite a few Republican politicians are making the case that they are just as fucking dumb as their followers.

[YGIFS 19453]

2 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

That went off about as well as her pipe bomb. 

How do you think she lost two of those toes?  

What movie was that where the U.s. military/LEO guy finally realizes who the bombmaker is because somebody tells him that they're usually missing a piece of a finger or two due to premature explosions?  I need to send that clip to her office.  in a tasteful way, of course...

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1 hour ago, BamaATL said:

I don't know why on earth we'd agree to anything beyond a one time deal.  For that matter, who cares if Mike Johnson comes out and claims we operated in bad faith.  Screw him, and screw any Republican claiming a bad faith negotiation.  That's downright laughable coming from a party that has made it it's entire platform not deal in good faith.  

In short, fuck em.  

Eh, the aid package to Ukraine and Taiwan is huge, potential generational impacts in preserving a world favorable to the United States and democracy.

The Dems should lean into this. Pick 1-2 issues with broad bipartisan backing and tell Johnson “we’ve got you until mid-September” then we kick your ass.

There‘a no putting Marge on a leash but maybe there is a window to use Johnson’s ego and desire to hold on to the advantage of the country. 

[BamaATL 16593]

1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Eh, the aid package to Ukraine and Taiwan is huge, potential generational impacts in preserving a world favorable to the United States and democracy.

The Dems should lean into this. Pick 1-2 issues with broad bipartisan backing and tell Johnson “we’ve got you until mid-September” then we kick your ass.

There‘a no putting Marge on a leash but maybe there is a window to use Johnson’s ego and desire to hold on to the advantage of the country. 

Screw that, leverage him at every turn and don't think twice about it.  Mike Johnson is about the most feckless person to ever come to any political power in US history.  What's little feckless Mike do, whine about it like a snowflake?  Go OAN and blame Democrats for all his problems (hint: he already does that).  No one gives a shit what this guy says or does, Republican or Democrat.  Leverage him for absolutely everything you can.

To be fair, I'm tired of us trying to play nice, go along to get along, only to get Charlie Brown'd at every turn.  We have our boot on his throat, stomp.  Republicans wouldn't blink if the shoe were on the other foot.  It's time to give them a taste.  Make them Charlie Brown and do it publicly.  Make every Republican voter feel like a loser (they are).  Play the game just as mean and opportunistic as they do.  

[Brisketexan 105569]

Screw that, leverage him at every turn and don't think twice about it.  Mike Johnson is about the most feckless person to ever come to any political power in US history.  What's little feckless Mike do, whine about it like a snowflake?  Go OAN and blame Democrats for all his problems (hint: he already does that).  No one gives a shit what this guy says or does, Republican or Democrat.  Leverage him for absolutely everything you can.
To be fair, I'm tired of us trying to play nice, go along to get along, only to get Charlie Brown'd at every turn.  We have our boot on his throat, stomp.  Republicans wouldn't blink if the shoe were on the other foot.  It's time to give them a taste.  Make them Charlie Brown and do it publicly.  Make every Republican voter feel like a loser (they are).  Play the game just as mean and opportunistic as they do.  

No.
Play it meaner.
Crush, humiliate, destroy. It’s the only language they understand, so speak it with authority.

[BamaATL 16593]

6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

No.
Play it meaner.
Crush, humiliate, destroy. It’s the only language they understand, so speak it with authority.

That's politics, and it always has been.  Leverage everything you can, and recognize that the other guy will.  Where Republicans have had the edge the last forty years in the playing mean corner.  Our biggest weakness during that time frame is the idea that we play the civil card and the nice guys and somehow that'd lead us to the future.  It's gotten us nowhere, and perhaps worse.  Instead of crushing idiots like the Freedom Caucus we've treated them with kid gloves.  Instead of declaring open political warfare on them, we get Jim Jordan almost as Speaker of the House.  It's beyond time to play mean, and it's beyond time to develop a killer instinct.  

[Captainant 27970]

3 hours ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

Salacious B Crumb slander will not stand, man.

I just don't get all the rancor over this

[LCHorn 2639]

1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

What movie was that where the U.s. military/LEO guy finally realizes who the bombmaker is because somebody tells him that they're usually missing a piece of a finger or two due to premature explosions?

Pretty sure it’s The Kingdom but my back up answer is Larry Wright’s The Siege.

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4 hours ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

Salacious B Crumb slander will not stand, man.

29 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I just don't get all the rancor over this

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1 hour ago, BamaATL said:

Screw that, leverage him at every turn and don't think twice about it.  Mike Johnson is about the most feckless person to ever come to any political power in US history.  What's little feckless Mike do, whine about it like a snowflake?  Go OAN and blame Democrats for all his problems (hint: he already does that).  No one gives a shit what this guy says or does, Republican or Democrat.  Leverage him for absolutely everything you can.

To be fair, I'm tired of us trying to play nice, go along to get along, only to get Charlie Brown'd at every turn.  We have our boot on his throat, stomp.  Republicans wouldn't blink if the shoe were on the other foot.  It's time to give them a taste.  Make them Charlie Brown and do it publicly.  Make every Republican voter feel like a loser (they are).  Play the game just as mean and opportunistic as they do.  

I mostly agree with you but 100 years from now we won’t remember what party won the 100 whatever Congress. We will remember how Ukraine laid waste to the Russian armed forces using second hand NATO compatible gear. 
 

Whatever it takes, keep the eye on the prize. Stacked Russian bodies. 

Edited May 9 by 956 Worldwide

[Biff Tannen 45763]

3 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

That went off about as well as her pipe bomb. 

I would almost, ALMOST, trade dotard getting off completely free if it meant she was exposed, tried, and executed for being the pipe bomber. 

[Pig Bellmont 8746]

5 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

We will remember how Ukraine laid waste to the Russian armed forces using second hand NATO compatible gear. 

From your lips to God’s ears 

[BamaATL 16593]

6 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I mostly agree with you but 100 years from now we won’t remember what party won the 100 whatever Congress. We will remember how Ukraine laid waste to the Russian armed forces using second hand NATO compatible gear. 
 

Whatever it takes, keep the eye on the prize. Stacked Russian bodies. 

We already got that, it's time to get more.  Though I agree.  

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3 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

From your lips to God’s ears 

It’s incredible, they’ve lost more KIA than we did in all of Vietnam in TWO YEARS. The bill is like .005 of our GDP and a very angry Anastasis. This is the best investment we’ve made since the Marshall Plan. 

[Pig Bellmont 8746]

7 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

This is the best investment we’ve made since the Marshall Plan

Listen. Texas gave me a history and government (poly sci) degree- not that really means much. And I 1000% agree. Objectively successful Cold War, resulting in massive depletion of Russian military power 

[Js1 85744]

1 minute ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Listen. Texas gave me a history and government (poly sci) degree- not that really means much. And I 1000% agree. Objectively successful Cold War, resulting in massive depletion of Russian military power 

And no American troops

I fail to see why it’s bad unless you’re a boot licking Russian toadie. So most of the GOP

[YGIFS 19453]

Speaking of boot-licking, with no offense to you hardcore Democrats (I know how you despise us folks that don't pull straight ticket D balllots every single election cycle since we turned 18).  Obviously some smart people in a room somewhere decided it was for the best.  But as Ukraine is back on upside, Russian assets being frozen again, EU/NATO ramping up support in light of our aid package, more weapon platforms being deployed again, humanitarian aid, etc.  And again, due respect to Speaker Johnson for seeing the light.  But I think of the idiocy of his chamber of Congress still going on and I think of the two quietest things that Biden has done despite Congressional pushback.  And he can't run of them for obvious reasons.  

1.  He is doing more to crush Russia than any other President since Eisenhower or Reagan, two beloved GOP'ers.  Who say what you will about them, at least held our country in high regard and knew what an evil shitheap USSR/Russia was/is.  But he can't actively run on that.  Because it calls more attention to what we know on this thread and others, but most of America is ignorant about.  We are backfilling entire defense systems through our NATO allies and the next wave is going to be devastating, bordering on fatal, to Russia.  This is an interesting milestone in history because we will have plurally brought an empire to its knees without a single boot on the ground, for pennies on the dollar compared to the Cold War.  But we will never really be able to celebrate it for the safety of our allies.  But the goodwill it books with Europe and parts of Western Asia will benefit our grandchildren's children.  

2.  Biden surrounded himself with truly brilliant and capable people.  He can't run on that either because it could be construed as weakness by some.  "Well, he got all those people to help him look good because he's old and dumb."  We know that's not the case, but look the lack of attrition.  Look at the commitment and capability of most of his cabinet and inner circle and high level appointees.  I've never seen anything like it and I've know dozens of White House folks over the decades.  

That he can't really advertise these two truths is understandable, but will be studied for centuries as effective, and discrete, leadership.  And if Mike Johnson gets a tad of credit for any of it, I'm okay with that.  Because lives are being saved, we can get over our own internal bullshit later on.  But were I the Speaker, and I sit in my driver's seat and see Marjorie Taylor Greene limping away from my car, wiping her hands off on her dress.  I might hesitate on turning over the ignition.  Just a suggestion, Mikey.  

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1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

Biden surrounded himself with truly brilliant and capable people.  He can't run on that either because it could be construed as weakness by some.  "Well, he got all those people to help him look good because he's old and dumb."  We know that's not the case, but look the lack of attrition.  Look at the commitment and capability of most of his cabinet and inner circle and high level appointees

People like to talk about the dunning Kruger effect but the more important aspect of it is that very high performers exhibit almost the opposite behavior. They are acutely aware of their limitations, even to the point of underestimating themselves, and constantly work to improve on them or bring in people who are better qualified for a given task. 

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LOL

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/08/politics/house-rejects-greene-motion-to-vacate/index.html

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On Wednesday evening, Greene did not rule out forcing another vote against Johnson in the future and suggested that a statement from former President Donald Trump on Truth Social supports the potential for a motion to vacate at some point – despite the fact that he urged members to vote to kill her resolution.

Pressed by CNN’s Manu Raju on whether she would trigger a vote again this Congress, Greene did not answer directly but said she is “thankful” for Trump’s support and pointed to the fact that he said on Truth Social that “at some point” Republicans may be in a position of voting on a motion to vacate.

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“He also said in that statement that we may have to vacate and that’s something that I think people need to pay attention to,” Greene said.

Asked whether she believes Trump was wrong to urge members to vote to table, the congresswoman said, “I stand with President Trump. I support President Trump. I’ve talked to him every day about this.”

Three Toes talks to Trump every day , Noem constantly talks to Trump…

[Wally Fairway 5600]

The R votes on this really tell the story of true MAGA support - R's voted 196-11 to table, or they have 11 votes in their own caucus to support removal of Johnson. I know this is just hopeful thinking, but I'd like to see this threat just go away and allow the house to actually get some legislative work done. 

Greene could well get reelected, but maybe even in her own district voters will start to realize how ineffective she is - but maybe they like having a loud mouth schnook; and to quote Foghorn Leghorn - she is about as smart as a bowling ball.

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[YGIFS 19453]

Can we all just agree that Thomas Massie looks like a pedophile in that clip?  

[The Dog 44180]

51 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

LOL

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/08/politics/house-rejects-greene-motion-to-vacate/index.html

Three Toes talks to Trump every day , Noem constantly talks to Trump…

America was built on compromise, but this has to be one of the strangest scenarios ever. 

She's giving Democrats enormous leverage to get what they want and the GOP incentive to make deals and stick to them.

If the GOP doesn't go along and negotiate in good faith then they let that goon do her thing and watch the GOP implode. 

[aggie08 21578]

42 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

Greene could well get reelected, but maybe even in her own district voters will start to realize how ineffective she is - but maybe they like having a loud mouth schnook;

No. They love it. Someone who "won't be silenced" and constantly yells at their colleagues in government is the dream candidate for large swaths of voters. The content of what she's yelling barely even matters. The government is all bad, so someone loudly speaking out against it and having shouting matches with other politicians must be good. It's as overly-simplistic as that.

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8 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

No. They love it. Someone who "won't be silenced" and constantly yells at their colleagues in government is the dream candidate for large swaths of voters. The content of what she's yelling barely even matters. The government is all bad, so someone loudly speaking out against it and having shouting matches with other politicians must be good. It's as overly-simplistic as that.

She’s going against what Trump has publicly and privately said, so I don’t know how forgiving MAGA will be of her.

[SydneyCarton 48296]

51 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Can we all just agree that Thomas Massie looks like a pedophile in that clip?  

Wrong. He looks like a pedophile in EVERY picture or clip. Is it becuase he's a pedophile? I don't know. But I bet Ryan Day knows, because they can smell their own. 

 

 

 

 

[DigglerontheHoof 21273]

3 hours ago, Wally Fairway said:

The R votes on this really tell the story of true MAGA support - R's voted 196-11 to table, or they have 11 votes in their own caucus to support removal of Johnson. I know this is just hopeful thinking, but I'd like to see this threat just go away and allow the house to actually get some legislative work done. 

Greene could well get reelected, but maybe even in her own district voters will start to realize how ineffective she is - but maybe they like having a loud mouth schnook; and to quote Foghorn Leghorn - she is about as smart as a bowling ball.

If she gets ousted, it would be by someone even more deplorable. 

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3 hours ago, YGIFS said:

Can we all just agree that Thomas Massie looks like a pedophile in that clip?  

Just that clip?