the 2023 speaker of the house voting thread of implosion

[Js1 85085]

Good luck to the moderates like Don Bacon justifying their votes and defending every bad clip of Johnson. (Bacon is a yes, so the moderates are likely just going to go along to get along)

He’s also so unknown that I highly doubt he’s going to be the fundraising juggernaut that McCarthy was. House GOP coffers aren’t going to get any infusions of cash from House leadership PACs or Trump lol

[pacman 7324]

The difference for moderates like Bacon is Mike hasn't been as much of a dick to everyone as Gym? Never mind, they are otherwise one in the same for the most part.

[The Dog 43784]

Get the lettuce ready once he passes some stuff MAGA will shank him just like they did McCarthy.

[Js1 85085]

1 minute ago, The Dog said:

Get the lettuce ready once he passes some stuff MAGA will shank him just like they did McCarthy.

Any attempt to keep the government open = death knell for him. Ukraine aid = death knell. 

[Gengs1 2583]

30 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

 

Give that man (who is in the closet) some credit; this is the most planning the got has done since 2020 and actually listed what they want to do 

[Paul Wesley 3277]

For the sake of my mental health, I should stop reading the news as the resumes of the prospective GOP speakers as their names are put forward for consideration.  Scalise who proudly called himself "David Duke without the baggage."  Jordan who covered up sexual abuse and shows relentless fealty to Trump and hostility to functioning government.  Now Johnson who repeatedly propagated election lies, filed briefs to overturn a fair election, and wants me to live in his theocracy. 

It's all just so fucking gross.  We see who they are in their presidential "debates" where none of them is willing to criticize Trump, except for the guy who enabled Trump from the inside for years and years, right up until the moment that he made his own power-grab calculation to be the "anti" vote (now polling at around 3%).

I know I'm just observing what's been obvious for the past 8 years and counting, but it's disheartening to see it on display.

I never thought I'd feel nostalgic for Romney or McCain - guys who I just disagreed with on most issues, but at least I didn't have to wake up every morning and see stories of them covering up sexual abuse, plotting to overthrowing democracy, trafficking teenage girls with Venmo payments, vaping and getting to second base in a theater where families are watching musicals, or having a completely forged identity.  

I still believe that none of this would be possible - and have vigorous party-wide support - without relentless right-wing propaganda that presents itself as news.

[yoladu 4066]

37 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

 

[yoladu 4066]

37 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

 

October - November 2023

            6. return to legislating.    lulz. Welcome back, i guess.

October - December 2024

            1. EXPAND OUR MAJORITY.    you buried the lead, Mr. Johnson.

[Beau Vine 53978]

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

54 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

Making Johnson the speaker is a gift for the Democratic Party. I would say it’s equal to not having a speaker.

I sure hope so, part of me is glad this sociopath is getting the absolute worst job in America.  Watching him navigate the Trump trials politically will be the high wire clown act of the century. 

[Js1 85085]

5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I sure hope so, part of me is glad this sociopath is getting the absolute worst job in America.  Watching him navigate the Trump trials politically will be the high wire clown act of the century. 

That and the Speaker is routinely one of the more hated people when polling the public 

[Zonahorn 8079]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I sure hope so, part of me is glad this sociopath is getting the absolute worst job in America.  Watching him navigate the Trump trials politically will be the high wire clown act of the century. 

He can’t fundraise for the entire party, his beliefs are poison for his party, he doesn’t have the experience or chops to handle the position, and he offers zero cover for GQP candidates trying to distance themselves from trump. This is going to be a complete disaster for the Republican Party.

[Longhornfan1024 1707]

1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

 

I mean, you can tell Scalise is a white supremacist just by looking at him. 

[Zonahorn 8079]

This nomination speech is fucking nauseating

[Blotto 23424]

21 minutes ago, Gengs1 said:

Give that man (who is in the closet) some credit; this is the most planning the got has done since 2020 and actually listed what they want to do 

Has he released his position on Hunter Biden's dong  (other than hopeful for reverse cowgirl)?

[tokamak 6350]

Let me get this straight:

1. Emmer beat this guy fair and square in the conference vote
2. Far right immediately says no way to Emmer
3. Everyone who voted for Emmer over Johnson ("moderates" lol): "ok, that's fine"

Wow, what backbone. What principles. I'm in awe of their steely resolve.

[InkaUtexas 25486]

so lets not talk about the nomination. Let's talk about the President. She is definitely a Karen and has a NextDoor account. 

[Zonahorn 8079]

Just now, tokamak said:

Let me get this straight:

1. Emmer beat this guy fair and square in the conference vote
2. Far right immediately says no way to Emmer
3. Everyone who voted for Emmer over Johnson ("moderates" lol): "ok, that's fine"

Wow, what backbone. What principles. I'm in awe of their steely resolve.

The modern GQP

[softlynow 1783]

58 minutes ago, tokamak said:

C'mon dude. You know exactly how that would play out.

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Fox News: "Democrats are cutting YOUR Social Security!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

People in the FN (or the more deplorable networks) bubble are unreachable, but they aren't sufficient to win jack shit. An actual cut to SS is the end of the GQP as a viable national party. Now, a new center-right leaning party that peels off folks from the Dems is a possible result, but that might take an election cycle or two for that to shake out. We're overdue for a party coalition shake-up. The current "system" has arguably existed since Nixon's southern strategy. The previous systems all lasted 30-40 years. 

[The Dog 43784]

 

[Bozo_Casanova 26271]

hooboy

 

[Chuckie Finster 22598]

"This man has my support for Speaker because we both come from places near a coast" may be one of my favorite political justifications of all time.

[Zonahorn 8079]

The good news is the moderate Republican myth dies.

[Neonmoon 38127]

So he's going to fail to get 217 and we do this whole charade again tomorrow?

[Zonahorn 8079]

1 minute ago, Neonmoon said:

So he's going to fail to get 217 and we do this whole charade again tomorrow?

Nope, they have chosen him as the nominee

[Michael Knight 12878]

looks like johnson is gonna make it

[Francisco 2.0 32313]

2 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

So he's going to fail to get 217 and we do this whole charade again tomorrow?

 

 

 

[Js1 85085]

2 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

So he's going to fail to get 217 and we do this whole charade again tomorrow?

He’s gotten Buck, Bacon and Burchette. He’s going to get it. Only 1 GOP absent today and 3 Dems. Doesn’t even need 217. Needs 215

[Underdog 28443]

Let me be the first to congratulate new Speaker of the House...  Mike Johnson.

 

[Biff Tannen 45491]

Ok, well that was a fun couple of weeks.  Now back to your regularly scheduled fuckery.  

[hornmpa96 2598]

Buck really held to his principles on 2020 election deniers. What a joke!

[Rimbo 25766]

4 hours ago, Captainant said:

Also notable is that both brexit and this shit were heavily underwritten by russian propaganda and disinformation absolutely dissolving the idea of objective truth and a common set of facts. It's the same intellectually disengaged and rhetorical grievance filled shitty arguments both here and in the UK. 

To be completely fair, that's been the case since the 1910s. There's always been this pretty active minority who were whole-hog against objective truth and reality. It had a very solid foothold here. Russian propaganda just gave it the itsy bitsy tiny push it needed to go completely off the rails.

[Zonahorn 8079]

 

[The Dog 43784]

clearly some deals were struck to get him over the line. 

[Biff Tannen 45491]

Dana Bash:  Why Mike Johnson?

Ken Buck:  Because he has the least enemies within the republican party.

Dana Bash:  Well that's a ringing endorsement.

[The Dog 43784]

 

[Bozo_Casanova 26271]

 

1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

Ken Buck:  Because he has the least enemies within the republican party.

The fewest

[InkaUtexas 25486]

Would have been funny if Johnson had voted for Jeffries. Was never going to happen, but I would have laughed. 

[Rimbo 25766]

2 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

Accountability: the Watchword of the GOP

I'd like to cuff that smug smirk off his lying face.

This is the game. Does this pasty gang of degenerates look like they're interested in playing politics? No. They're in the war against the republic. They actually laughed at a reference to the insurrection then shouted down the questioner.

Maybe I'm off the deep end, but I think the political discussion on this thread about the implications of who gets elected speaker from this bubbling cess pool are sort of stuck in the past. There are no GOPs (maybe a few, I guess) at all interested in becoming more moderate. 

These are defenders of rebellion. The do so in the clip above. These are constant liars. These people have no policy agenda other than painting Dems as dangerous enemies of the country and collecting on the fear and hate they create. And they don't give a fuck about the interests or health of this country.

The US would not miss a single one of these weasles who might emigrate away to another country or an incinerator somewhere. Not a single person in that picture is worth the skid mark on a homeless man's underwear. 

So dealing with them or hoping for something good from them is futility. The only answer is removing them from power. Peaceful means remain available.

I don't think anyone here expects a Speaker to be approved that's worth a damn. More to the point, I don't think anyone here expects the GOP to approve a Speaker.

[Neonmoon 38127]

[Your Mom 4791]

25 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Wow, what backbone. What principles. I'm in awe of their steely resolve.

That’s the thing.  In that party you either get steely resolve or unity, it’s not possible to have both.  You either have principles with a splintered party full of chaos or you have a united party with a complete lack of moral character.  
 

“That’s some catch, that Catch 22.”

[Js1 85085]

2 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

But he looks nice and smiles so the shit ass media will eat that up 

[Chuckie Finster 22598]

Oh, so he's CRAZY crazy

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The congressman who represents northwest Louisiana said Tuesday that California atheists are trying to spy on Christian student groups at a Bossier Parish high school.

U.S Rep. Mike Johnson, the first-term Republican representing Louisiana's 4th Congressional District, claimed that what he described as "atheist litigation groups" in California were trying to get hidden video of Christian student activities at Benton High School.

https://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/news/2018/09/18/louisiana-congressman-says-atheists-spy-bossiers-christian-students/1347673002/

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

Welcome to my world America 

[Zonahorn 8079]

 

[Biff Tannen 45491]

1 minute ago, Zonahorn said:

 

Dave's got a schtick, I'll give him that.

[Rimbo 25766]

14 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

I don't think anyone here expects a Speaker to be approved that's worth a damn. More to the point, I don't think anyone here expects the GOP to approve a Speaker.

...ok I was a little behind the times when I wrote this things move fast and i'm old ok???

[Dbeasy 14961]

It really does cement in stone that the Moderate Republican Party is gone, forever. Very scary.  

[dieucla98 2933]

190+ votes for Johnson. No R has voted for anyone other than Johnson. He has this sewn up.

This is the best the R's can do - a nobody from Louisiana that parrots the far right line but does so with a smile (which apparently is something to brag about for the R party). 

Edited October 25, 2023 by dieucla98

[Francisco 2.0 32313]

2 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

It really does cement in stone that the Moderate Republican Party is gone, forever. Very scary.  

 

Yeah.

 

2 minutes ago, dieucla98 said:

190+ votes for Johnson. No R has voted for anyone other than Johnson. He has this sewn up.

 

The moderates have either resigned themselves to the fact maga is fully in control now, or have resigned themselves that they more than likely will lose the house next fall, no matter who sits in the chair.