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29 minutes ago, The Dog said:

(THUD = Treasury and HUD; FSGG = financial services and general government)

House Republicans are too busy going after a lone Palestinian-American member of the House to bother with stuff that could affect millions.

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5 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

House Republicans are too busy going after a lone Palestinian-American member of the House to bother with stuff that could affect millions.

GOP: We need a speaker so we can get back to business

*elects a Speaker*

OMG NO, we didn't want to actually do anything 

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They're doing plenty you narrow-minded libtard.  Mike, his best friend, wife, and whacky neighbor are in a masturbation contest.  Whoever is caught digitally, watching porn has to pay the Treasury Dept. via a non-existent bank-account and then go out for de-caf and eggs.

And somewhere in there, they help Israel maybe.  I dunno, it's like they're pro-Jew but not really.  It was a weird episode. 

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19 hours ago, YGIFS said:

They're doing plenty you narrow-minded libtard.  Mike, his best friend, wife, and whacky neighbor are in a masturbation contest.  Whoever is caught digitally, watching porn has to pay the Treasury Dept. via a non-existent bank-account and then go out for de-caf and eggs.

And somewhere in there, they help Israel maybe.  I dunno, it's like they're pro-Jew but not really.  It was a weird episode. 

Someone with better skills than me should put Mike Johnson's head on this GIF

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4 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

I'd watch Alex Daddario read the Houston phone book. 

 

2 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

I don't understand the point of that video but I did enjoy watching AD.

Same same. The music isn't necessarily my cup of tea but that is prime Daddario there.

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Also a good primer on the upcoming shutdown issues from Jeff Jackson.  God, Congress is going to miss someone like this

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Shutdown update

The government is set to shut down in seven days.

There are two ways to avoid this: We can either pass a budget (which means passing 12 separate funding bills) or pass another temporary extension.

In reality, there’s no way the House and Senate are going to agree on a full budget in the next seven days. The House has only passed seven funding bills so far and the House and Senate have agreed on zero of them. Even assuming everyone started working in good faith tomorrow, we’re still a couple months from an actual budget deal.

So that leaves a temporary extension.

BUT agreeing to a temporary extension is what got the last Speaker fired. 

The new Speaker knows this - and he doesn’t want to be fired - so his plan was to pass as many funding bills as he can before asking his right-flank to go along with another temporary extension next week. 

Basically, he wants to show his right-flank that he’s trying very hard to do things the way they want in the hope that they’ll cut him some slack when he inevitably tells them he has to do a temporary extension. (Which was roughly former Speaker McCarthy’s strategy, by the way.)

This week, the Speaker’s goal was to pass two funding bills.

Tuesday night we tried to pass the first one. We had been there for over an hour voting on all these random amendments for the bill, and then, at last, we reached the vote for the actual bill. 

And just before it came to a vote, leadership took it down. No vote.

Same exact thing happened on the next funding bill. We had an hour of amendments leading up to the big vote on a funding bill, only to have the bill pulled off the agenda moments before the vote.

Why? Because of internal division within the majority party about the bills themselves. In short, some members of the majority want deeper cuts than others.

So, the Speaker’s plan didn’t work. Zero funding bills passed this week.

Next week is decision time for the Speaker. He’s going to have to go to his caucus with another temporary extension, and I honestly don’t know how they’re going to react. 

The Speaker is hoping that his right-flank basically says, “Ok, we’re not going to vote for a temporary extension, but we also won’t try to fire you if you bring it to a vote and it passes.” 

If we’re going to avoid a shutdown, that’s roughly what needs to happen. I don’t think there’s another path.

Fake amendments / real amendments

I mentioned that we voted on lots of amendments this week.

I just want to stress: A ton of these are fake efforts to get your attention.

Some examples:

  • Reducing the salary of all employees of the Vice President to $1 (in other words, eliminate her entire staff)

  • Reducing the salary of the Secretary of the Dept. of Transportation to $1

  • Reducing the salary of the White House Press Secretary to $1

  • Reducing the salary of the Securities and Exchange Chairman to $1

  • Reducing salary of National Highway Transportation Administration head to $1

These aren’t designed to be serious. They’re for members to use in their fundraising emails and certain media outlets. 

A genuine approach is less exciting, and it looks kinda like this:

After I was elected, a handful of meteorologists from my district got in touch. They told me that Charlotte exists in a weather radar gap because the national weather radar network was built decades ago and back then we just didn’t get our own radar. We rely on a radar in South Carolina, and that means less accurate weather predictions for my district.

So I filed a bill a few months ago to try and fix that.

And then the work began. All kinds of issues developed with my bill, various objections were raised, modifications were made, partners were found. For something seemingly small, it became pretty tricky.

Once we had a new version of the bill, we settled on a different strategy: We’d file it as an amendment to a related bill that we knew was going to come up in the Science Committee, of which I’m a member.

And it finally happened this week. I had the opportunity to explain my amendment to my colleagues, and it passed unanimously. 

Then the bill itself passed, and now it’s headed for the floor.

Also, I have to say: The Chairman of the Science Committee - who is not in my party - has been exceptionally kind and helpful all year. The fact that we’re in different parties doesn’t seem to matter to him one bit when it comes to working with me, and in a highly partisan environment I think he deserves a lot of credit for that.

I'll keep you posted.

- Rep. Jeff Jackson

 

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The "right flank" wants a government shutdown. They are saying it out loud. I don't know why anyone would take that job knowing it's impossible to both govern and keep the speakership. You fostered this environment, let them all try and fail. Government shutdown will be a disaster, but it's gonna happen, because that's what the hyenas want.

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I hate brinkmanship, but this is how this gets done.  We only need a few of them in moderate districts to go along with us, it might be a temporary punt, but perhaps a few of them would view any fallout as blowing over a year from now if they go with us on a full year.  The longer they sit in disarray, the more like a few of them will consider this.  

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1 hour ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

"Who should we put in charge of hammering out a budget deal? Hmm... How about that guy with no bank account?"

Since I don't come around these parts very often, I thought I should ask if this is where we discuss the budget/funding debacle. Because I would bet on a shutdown this time, I see the Speaker struggling to get something through the majority party in the house to even start with what the Senate will/can approve. 
I've been wrong in the past, including thinking we could still be waiting for a Speaker to be sworn in.  

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55 minutes ago, 'stache said:

He wants to stay speaker so it'll be a shutdown and they'll spin it as a good thing and any bad things are democrats fault. Half the country will believe them. 

16 Republicans in toss ups and 6 in leans according to Cook.  While we will need the speaker to call a vote, we only need a few these to move along some sort of reconciliation with the Senate.  

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So Mike Johnson recessed early this week, only what 8-10 days from shutdown? So he could fly to France for some ultra right wing conference?  This is our new speaker of the house? A hitler looking no bank account claiming ultra right wing fake Baptist preacher?

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