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2 hours ago, Js1 said:

When does Marge file the motion to vacate? He’s a RINO

I'm not kidding when I say this, but that might be the best bet to the budget situation.  If they vacate Johnson, I give it 60/40 we get Speaker Jefferies middle of next week.  

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2 hours ago, Covri said:

So Mike Johnson recessed early this week, only what 8-10 days from shutdown? So he could fly to France for some ultra right wing conference?  This is our new speaker of the house? A hitler looking no bank account claiming ultra right wing fake Baptist preacher?

7 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

"Who should we put in charge of hammering out a budget deal? Hmm... How about that guy with no bank account?"

Yeah, but have you seen his porn intake?

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2 hours ago, texasdago said:

Back on topic.

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I still have no fucking idea how we got from Mike Johnson to Hall & Oates.  And I don't know how we're gonna do this.  But we're having a Surly tailgate party that weekend for Washington @ Texas baseball while Oates is here.  And I''m gonna make some calls.  And he's gonna be our guest of honor.  And he's gonna throw out the first pitch.  This is fucking happening.  I need some help, but we can do this.  And yes, we probably should all think about getting matching perms.  

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And then you have Susan Collins who thinks it’s a dumb fucking idea. “Laddered approach” where some funding runs out in Jan and some in February. Stupid 

Jeffries also said lmao no

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23 hours ago, YGIFS said:

I still have no fucking idea how we got from Mike Johnson to Hall & Oates.  And I don't know how we're gonna do this.  But we're having a Surly tailgate party that weekend for Washington @ Texas baseball while Oates is here.  And I''m gonna make some calls.  And he's gonna be our guest of honor.  And he's gonna throw out the first pitch.  This is fucking happening.  I need some help, but we can do this.  And yes, we probably should all think about getting matching perms.  

You have to do this. No take backs. Creator energy

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On 11/10/2023 at 9:12 PM, YGIFS said:

I still have no fucking idea how we got from Mike Johnson to Hall & Oates.  And I don't know how we're gonna do this.  But we're having a Surly tailgate party that weekend for Washington @ Texas baseball while Oates is here.  And I''m gonna make some calls.  And he's gonna be our guest of honor.  And he's gonna throw out the first pitch.  This is fucking happening.  I need some help, but we can do this.  And yes, we probably should all think about getting matching perms.  

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On 11/11/2023 at 5:43 PM, aggie08 said:

Who the fuck are the conservative Republicans? Honestly asking. Which group are we referring to here?

Serious answer:

Media has continued to pretend that the far right lunatics are simply "conservative" and that the rest of the GQP are simply "moderates".  When in reality, they are all the fucking same.

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3 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Serious answer:

Media has continued to pretend that the far right lunatics are simply "conservative" and that the rest of the GQP are simply "moderates".  When in reality, they are all the fucking same.

on the circus finale last night, bannon said that trump was a moderate, and the maga movement is way way to the right of him, and it won't be long until people are wishing for leaders who were as moderate as trump.

not joking.

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On 11/10/2023 at 3:15 PM, Covri said:

So Mike Johnson recessed early this week, only what 8-10 days from shutdown? So he could fly to France for some ultra right wing conference?  This is our new speaker of the house? A hitler looking no bank account claiming ultra right wing fake Baptist preacher?

 

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1 hour ago, Underdog said:

The first question to Bannon should be how the fuck are you still not behind bars?! 

Are you not familiar with how our justice system treats the ultra wealthy? And even moreso the fascist ultra wealthy?

Ain't shit gonna happen to him. Not while republicans hold so much power. 

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Speaker Mike Johnson is set to face his first big vote on the House floor today — a clean stopgap funding bill designed to avert a government shutdown after Nov. 17.

And just like the GOP speakers before him, Johnson — who came into power vowing he would change the way Washington works — will have to rely on a bailout from House Democrats to pass the bill.

Support for Johnson’s “two-step CR” was so soft inside the House Republican Conference that the GOP leadership team decided to consider the bill under suspension of the rules. This circumvents the normal House procedural hurdles yet requires a two-thirds majority for passage, meaning 290 yes votes.

As of now, roughly 50 House Republicans are expected to vote against the CR, according to preliminary estimates. But the scale of the internal opposition will be clearer following the GOP conference meeting this morning.

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and other senior Democrats also want to hear from their rank-and-file before publicly committing to this maneuver. We talked to more than a dozen Democratic lawmakers and aides on Monday night. Democrats don’t love the GOP plan, yet they want to avoid a shutdown as well.

One challenge for Johnson — what happens if more Democrats vote for the measure than Republicans? What kind of fallout would he face over that?

Remember: Johnson’s plan would extend funding for the Agriculture, Energy and Water, MilCon-VA and Transportation-HUD spending bills until Jan. 19 at current funding levels. The other eight bills — including Defense — would be extended through Feb. 2.

From a strategic perspective, there are problems and opportunities for both Republicans and Democrats here.

The fact that Johnson needs Democrats to pass his first major piece of legislation undermines the central tenet of his speakership — that the Louisiana Republican is decidedly more conservative than his predecessors and would govern that way.

This is a clean funding bill with no policy changes, no spending reductions, or anything conservatives really want. All House Republicans can hang their hat on is that Johnson has avoided a government shutdown while making sure that the Senate doesn’t jam them on a huge funding package before Christmas. It sets up new funding deadlines in January and another in February. Whether that helps Republicans achieve anything remains to be seen.

Johnson huddled with the House Freedom Caucus on Monday night. The HFC is leading the outcry against the new speaker’s plan.

At the same time, Democrats are getting nothing here for their support. They’re bailing Johnson out merely to keep the federal government open. Democrats tried and failed to get the annual defense authorization bill attached to this CR. They did get an extension of farm bill policies, but there’s no aid to Israel, Ukraine or Taiwan either. Those will have to be dealt with separately, and there’s no guarantee that Ukraine aid in particular will be approved.

“Democrats don’t want to shut down the government,” Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Monday evening. “I think this is a bad process that he set up.”

“The main thing is we have a clean continuing resolution and we don’t shut the government down,” added Rep. Brendan Boyle (Pa.), top Democrat on the Budget Committee. “Shutting the government down would cost taxpayers billions of dollars and impede our economic recovery.”

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Dems will support Johnson’s funding bill because it’s a clean bill with no cuts (sets everything to 2023 spending)

As a reminder, it’s a ladder approach so some of us will come up again in Jan and some in February. 

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Lol they think he’s one of them so they won’t oust him (allegedly - Politico)

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They’re not looking to oust Johnson over it. But some conservatives are privately entertaining other ways to retaliate. 

One tactic under discussion is the same one they used against McCarthy after he struck a debt deal they hated: holding the House floor hostage by tanking procedural votes.

“There is a sentiment that if we can’t fight anything, then let’s just hold up everything,” said Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.), one of several frustrated Freedom Caucus members who has huddled with the speaker multiple times this week.

There are a few reasons conservatives won’t push a mutiny 20 days into Johnson’s speakership, an effort Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tenn.) characterized as “untenable.” But mainly, Johnson doesn’t have the same stubborn trust issues that plagued his predecessor.

 

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2 hours ago, Js1 said:

Lol they think he’s one of them so they won’t oust him (allegedly - Politico)

2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

So in his first major action, the GOP Speaker effectively led a coalition win mainly supported by the Dems? Great start.

He's got maybe a week at the most before they oust him and try to get another person like them in the chair..  MTG is pissed at the other Republicans in general.

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On 11/10/2023 at 9:12 PM, YGIFS said:

I still have no fucking idea how we got from Mike Johnson to Hall & Oates.  And I don't know how we're gonna do this.  But we're having a Surly tailgate party that weekend for Washington @ Texas baseball while Oates is here.  And I''m gonna make some calls.  And he's gonna be our guest of honor.  And he's gonna throw out the first pitch.  This is fucking happening.  I need some help, but we can do this.  And yes, we probably should all think about getting matching perms.  

What if I told you that Earth, Wind, and Fire will be in concert with Chicago here in Houston and Fort Worth in August of next year....

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2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

What if I told you that Earth, Wind, and Fire will be in concert with Chicago here in Houston and Fort Worth in August of next year....

I'd tell you neither are worth seeing without Terry Kath nor Maurice White.

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40 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

It’s the status quo, Hastert Rule suspension combo. Off to a great start.

I will say, it’s almost like the “shut it down, who cares” crowd, and especially the Freedom Caucus bozos, do not understand the leadership burden both McCarthy and Johnson have to endure if there is one, how it would reflect in polling and fundraising and they’re not in the room with Biden when negotiating and being informed how much a shutdown will impact human lives, the economy, etc.

They just want to grandstand, fundraise and be on TV. Others have the burden of leading. It’s not a fun one 

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