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the 2023 speaker of the house voting thread of implosion


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2 hours ago, Irwin F Fletcher said:

Sounds like she can't quit him.

She's getting a lot of attention right now, with the media swarming her and wanting to know if she'll go through with MTV.  If she does, and Johnson remains, the media will start ignoring her.

Best to keep pretending like you're going to.

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I would like to thank MGT for bringing cooperation and the ability to compromise back to the House; not that she does either of them, or comprehends what it would mean to actually govern a diverse populous, but rather because her idiocy has pushed others to realize that they have to be willing to compromise or the idiots will gain an even bigger voice. 

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MTG, "I don't care if the Democrats have threatened to vote down by motion to vacate!  I can count the vote margin I'll win by on one foot!  (checks toes and 217-212 margin).  Shit..."

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8 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Does she actually think Jeffries is bluffing?

Unlikely. 

Also - Trump isn't on board with this either so she's delaying hoping he'll change his mind IMHO. Remember he's got an advisor telling him she's bad news so his support is unlikely moving forward. MTG exists because of Trump - not the other way around.

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4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Are they formulating a plan to campaign on having a speaker that dems will vote for, and needing more Maga in the house to elect a good murca first speaker to get things done?

They have no plan. That’s the plan. Oh and hate the gays and browns 

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8 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Are they formulating a plan to campaign on having a speaker that dems will vote for, and needing more Maga in the house to elect a good murca first speaker to get things done?

The plan is to lose the house so they don’t have to govern 

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3 minutes ago, Shut up Lou Holtz said:

They have no plan. That’s the plan. Oh and hate the gays and browns 

the man with a plan is Putin.  he's ordering Marge to create chaos.  Moscow Marge does as she's told.

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Isn't it to make republican's vote and if democrats join to stop this nonsense, she can yell about how all the rinos and the Biden agenda, blah, blah, blah. At what point do republicans kick her out of the party? They could bury her with a few simple acts. 

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You know, as clumsy as she usually is in front of a mic.  And as fucking delusional and illogical as her argument is...if you're a MAGA diehard...that MTG speech was actually quite effective.  

Two major flaws though---she'll hold her seat, but she's just estranging herself from her party leadership at this point and will be given lesser and lesser committee assignments and fundraising help as time goes on.  And also, while it sounds good on the surface to MAGA nation, to proclaim that Democratic members voting for Johnson will have to shrug their heads down when they return home to be primary'd.  They're too fucking stupid to game it out.  Only one of two mathematical outcomes there MTG and MAGA.  Those Democrats may actually lose a primary because of it to a more left-wing candidate, thus bringing about the evil socialist dystopia you keep warning us about.  Or they simply are smart enough to realize, "Meh, I don't like Mike but he was the least shitty choice for the last year of Biden's first term when we had real geopolitical shit going on."  Either way, it's not the flex you think it is.  But again, having said that, I think was actually one of your more rousing speeches to your barrel of buffoons.  

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Now the circumstances are different. The impeachment case has fizzled, and Democrats saw in Johnson’s move on Ukraine—despite months of delay—an act of much greater political courage than McCarthy’s last-minute decision to avert a government shutdown. They also respect him more than they do his predecessor. “I empathize with him in a way I could not with Kevin McCarthy, who was just this classic suit calculating his next advancement as a politician,” Representative Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, a first-term Democrat from Washington State, told me recently, explaining why she planned to help Johnson.

 

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Also lets the non crazy (I know) republican members of congress know that they have options other than resigning to resist the crazy 8 or so that have been fucking everything up 

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38 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

He’s terrible but yes.  You can’t press for someone to be a statesman and show bipartisan ship then punish them for doing it. McCarthy got the axe for being a liar and dishonest with Ds.

 

Go win the House and get the speakership. Till then, the lesson for Mike is that being an honest broker is rewarded. We might want another aid package with a future speaker. 

We'll likely need another one this year and need to push for it in August. 

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