the 2023 speaker of the house voting thread of implosion

[YGIFS 19,458]

Not what I was wanting, but I'll rep it anyway.  

The votes go up to 11.  Twelve Days of Shitshow?  "13" by Johnny Cash.  We're gonna run out of songs.  

[Gatorubet 30,717]

Can McCarthy give up enough so that saner GOP members won’t agree - as it sets up the rebels for an eternity of stupid shit show obstruction on all of the important things? 

[The Dog 44,861]

appears the deal is to try to get enough GOP on board to adjourn - I'd guess until Monday. 

[hobbes2702 13,477]

French telling us about how they have to cut spending. Then holds up a blank piece of paper saying how non of his constituents have asked to cut spending.

So what was your point exactly?

[TexasEd 8,266]

 

Kevin and 11 rhyme.

 

Edited January 5, 2023 by TexasEd

[henrygandorf 29,225]

30 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

[Jameslaw121 4,494]

[TexEx15 17,948]

 

[Grade of D as in David 13,255]

7 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Not what I was wanting, but I'll rep it anyway.  

The votes go up to 11.  Twelve Days of Shitshow?  "13" by Johnny Cash.  We're gonna run out of songs.  

Nah we're good

Seventeen- Winger

I'm 18 - Alice Cooper

...

99 luftballoons - Nena

 

[Gatorubet 30,717]

Holy shit! Arkansas dip shit reminds everyone of the great job that Silent Cal and the Republicans did setting up everyone for the great depression.  

[Macanudo 13,324]

17 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

Unfortunately this needs to be painful so that the country continues to see the ineptitude and indifference this party has towards legislating. 

You forget that 30-35% of this country is incapable of that.

[henrygandorf 29,225]

jonah ryan for speaker. 

 

[Js1 87,182]

[TexasEd 8,266]

Trump about to lose another election

 

[bolverk 30,323]

Just here for the lulz and memes now.

 

[henrygandorf 29,225]

1 minute ago, TexasEd said:

Trump about to lose another election

he endorsed mccarthy so technically you could hang two on him this round.

[henrygandorf 29,225]

gaetz has gone full jeremy jamm.

[Tuco 5,093]

As I see it, there's 5 ways out:

1. McCarthy stands aside willingly
2. McCarthy makes a deal with the Dems
3. McCarthy makes a deal with the holdouts
4. Plurality vote
5. McCarthy voters get sick of this and move en masse to a backup choice (Scalise?)

I think #1 would appear to happen before #5. In other words, I could see a bunch of Republicans telling McCarthy to stand aside “willingly” or they would pull their votes. As bad as it looks for McCarthy now, if he starts losing by 30 or 40 votes it would be colossally ugly. If he were to withdraw now, maybe he has a shot in two months after the next revolt. If he publicly loses a bigger chunk of the caucus, I don’t see that ever happening, especially since his unwillingness to stand aside would certainly be remembered.

[Bullneck 19,523]

2 hours ago, bolverk said:

I was just checking some bipartisanship scoresheet for House members from the last congress, and Brian Fitzpatrick-PA looks like he would be a Republican that could pull Democratic votes. I didn't anything about him until reading his wiki page, and he seems like he'd work from my liberal/progressive standpoint. He's probably too liberal for the majority of Republicans, but it's still interesting to work down the left hand column rankings to see who all fit the "bipartisan" bill.

https://www.thelugarcenter.org/assets/htmldocuments/117_BPI_House.pdf

My company has an office in his district (south Bucks County) and his signs are all about how "independent" he is and there's never a mention of his party, so I always figured he was a Republican who was ashamed to say so.  

[Beau Vine 55,865]

This Bob Good guy is a fucking lunatic.

[lemonlime 5,503]

31 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

Unfortunately this needs to be painful so that the country continues to see the ineptitude and indifference this party has towards legislating. 

The majority of the country sees it.  The rest of the country could watch the party gun people down on Fifth Avenue, and they'd believe it was the Dems fault because Fox News told them so.

[pacman 7,507]

12 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

You forget that 30-35% of this country is incapable of that.

Agree, shutting down American government is exactly what they want the Rs to do.

[TexLonghorn 5,737]

 

[Js1 87,182]

1 minute ago, pacman said:

Agree, shutting down American government is exactly what they want the Rs to do.

They seem to forget that they almost always get blamed for government shutdowns too 

[Macanudo 13,324]

Isn't Scalise part of the current R leadership?   Hasn't Boebert said that they won't vote for anyone currently in leadership?   

[Js1 87,182]

[henrygandorf 29,225]

 

['stache 22,133]

3 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

 

Sure there is.

https://youtu.be/6ZZgunJ4QCU

[SydneyCarton 49,500]

1 hour ago, Beau Vine said:

I was just thinking that I kind of miss seeing Louie Gohmert interviewed.

Negged in good nature, but it had to be done on general principle. Fuck that perpetual embarrassment to Texas.  

Edited January 6, 2023 by SydneyCarton

[SmokeyTheBear 5,569]

14 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

The majority of the country sees it.  The rest of the country could watch the party gun people down on Fifth Avenue, and they'd believe it was the Dems fault because Fox News told them so.

Oh I'm aware we still have 30-35% of the country that is lost, but up to now theyve been largely unified. What we are seeing is a complete breakdown of commonality within that party. Their direct attack on the left is now going inward, and even against Trump. We need those who have been on the fence regarding moving back to the GOP post-Trump to see that the party has no order, and no actual legislating ethos. If they can't figure this shit out and it ends up with military not getting paid, VA not getting served, reaction to world events being hampered; that's when real real change happens in people's minds regarding the political dynamics at play and how it relates to their day to day. Not the typical virtual reality of fear they've been pumped by the Far Right infosphere. Real pain. 

Edited January 5, 2023 by SmokeyTheBear

[SydneyCarton 49,500]

12 minutes ago, Js1 said:

They seem to forget that they almost always get blamed for government shutdowns too 

That memory doesn’t seem to last long, the tickets keep getting elected. 
 

that being said, if they shut the government down this time for an extended period, I actually feel like they will be slaughtered in 2024. 

[bolverk 30,323]

Looks like we're going to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11....12!

 

 

[Bateshorn 9,991]

2 hours ago, C-Man said:

Sure but aren't there 400+ reps who are sick of the 20 lunatics -- you only need 218 of those to pass the rules package?

You need 218 if 430-ish are voting. If less vote, you need less of “a majority of the majority “ I don’t want to summon our resident math demon, so I won’t mention his name. 

But the Rules is where the basic operating procedure of  the House for the 218th Congress is established. Motions to recommit, membership of committees, subpoena rules, amendment rules, delays to read bills before floor action, blah, etc. 

The GOP Holdouts want something in writing so McCarthy can’t cut a deal with the Dems.  Because everyone knows McCarthy is a first class liar.

[WhatTheBuck 28,929]

51 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

 

Kevin’s a girl?

[Huckleberry 34,648]

 

[UpperWestside 6,275]

6 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

Kevin is gonna need divine intervention from the mages. 

Paladins man and by gawd there’s plenty of those posers in the GQP willing to do it!

[Pig Bellmont 8,886]

1 hour ago, Beau Vine said:

"Chip Roy is going to bring 10 votes THIS MORNING" was the scuttlebutt last night, so forgive me for ignoring the McCarthy-is-negotiating rumors.  It's like Scott Boras talking about all the offers his .212-hitting first baseman client is getting. 

Exactly. This seems more like a leak from McCarthy’s camp trying to speak “momentum” into existence. It didn’t result in anything yesterday and I see no reason to believe any differently 

[DixonHur 11,959]

Someone should nominate that dog for Speaker

[Js1 87,182]

2 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Exactly. This seems more like a leak from McCarthy’s camp trying to speak “momentum” into existence. It didn’t result in anything yesterday and I see no reason to believe any differently 

[henrygandorf 29,225]

trump finished 5th.

top 5 speaker of the house ballot, put it on a shrine.

[Ghost of LL 15,698]

20 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

You need 218 if 430-ish are voting. If less vote, you need less of “a majority of the majority “ I don’t want to summon our resident math demon, so I won’t mention his name. 

But the Rules is where the basic operating procedure of  the House for the 218th Congress is established. Motions to recommit, membership of committees, subpoena rules, amendment rules, delays to read bills before floor action, blah, etc. 

The GOP Holdouts want something in writing so McCarthy can’t cut a deal with the Dems.  Because everyone knows McCarthy is a first class liar.

What's the enforcement mechanism for anything that Kevin McCarthy puts into writing?  

It just seems to me that the written promise is just as meaningless as any other McCarthy promise.  He'll say, "yeah, I put it in writing, but it was under duress and I agreed to something I never intended to deliver for the good of the country."  And you know what--enough people would go along with that.

Either Kevin McCarthy's word is good, or it isn't.  And his word isn't worth shit.

 

 

*** By the way, I do think there's value in having a written agreement if the agreement is so complicated that you don't want to rely on anyone's individual memory.  But that doesn't seem to be the situation here.  They want it in writing so that they could hold him to it because nobody trusts McCarthy's word.  But that's pointless.

[Js1 87,182]

[DixonHur 11,959]

Interesting to see Gaetz talking to Wasserman-Schultz and other Dems.

[WhatTheBuck 28,929]

11 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Someone should nominate that dog for Speaker

How about Devin Nunes’ Cow?

[Js1 87,182]

1 minute ago, DixonHur said:

Interesting to see Gaetz talking to Wasserman-Schultz and other Dems.

That bitch is still in Congress? Jesus 

[cactusflinthead 27,627]

 

[DixonHur 11,959]

[GenXer 3,435]

 

[Gatorubet 30,717]

I love it when dip shit old white man is so clueless that he calls a respected television journalist “little lady” on her show.  Set that GOP brand even harder with millennials. 

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,455]

2 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

 

Who the hell schedules an out of town medical appointment their first week on a new job?