the 2023 speaker of the house voting thread of implosion

[Macanudo 13327]

4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Not necessarily. 

If the Dems can find 6 GOP partners willing to play ball, they can bypass whatever nimrod is Speaker and put a discharge petition on the floor.  I believe it would have to sit for 30 days before it can be brought to the floor.  Or something like that. 

They *should* be able to find at least 6 GOPers for something like the debt ceiling, because there's 18 Republicans in Biden seats.  Their #1 job is to try and get re-elected in a presidential year with Biden on the ballot, so some of them are going to have to consider playing ball to burnish their bipartisan/moderate credentials in a district that would normally be hostile to them.  Because otherwise, they will be reason #1 we defaulted.  It's easy for someone like Marge to dig in her hooves and say no, fuck this shit, because her district will never vote her out.  

But some of them, like the new NY Reps, some in CA, etc., have to balance the fact that, if they survive their primaries, they have to go explain to voters why they voted for default. 

It's sad that we aren't even sure of there are 6 Rs who aren't among those 18 who would be willing to vote for raising the debt ceiling.   Default scares the shit out of me.

[yoladu 4191]

14 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Oh the horrors.

 

 

 

[Beau Vine 55867]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I've been slightly surprised that Santos hasn't hitched his wagon to the Gaetz side of this situation. He's not going to get anything from McCarthy or the GOP from falling in line with 200 others voting for McCarthy.

He's going to get seated, which means he's going to get a cushy job for 4 2 years.

 

Edited January 6, 2023 by Beau Vine
(Sorry, the 4 key is next to the 2 key on my keyboard.  Yeah, that's it!)

[yoladu 4191]

5 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

He's going to get seated, which means he's going to get a cushy job for 4 years.

4 years?

[tokamak 6687]

forget it, he's rolling

[Mdhorn 6166]

32 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

I was speaking specifically about laying the groundwork that a shut down government means people lose their SS, Medicare, and other federal benefits and this TODAY is the reason it will happen. Because if they can't even work this simple issue that has been a 1 vote affair for over a century then what are the odds they come through when Americans need them on stuff as complex as budgets? They have a perfect opportunity to use the republican fear mongering tactics against them and aren't doing it. 

They should be hammering the message any govt issues and loss of money/benefits for Americans going forward is squarely on the republicans and specifically on Gaetz/Boebert's crew. I haven't heard any direct blame and naming of culprits going on. The American people are stupid. You have to spoon feed them info like babies. 

The American public is far worse--they'll vote against their own interests and then blame Democrats.  This disfunction goes against their (our) interests and is a direct reflection of American racism.  They choose to believe the lies they are told because they want to believe the lies--they actively search for something to cling to that aligns with their beliefs which are at their core, the bleks and mexkins are taking everything.  Doesn't matter that they're giving it up by voting against it.  Fucking idiots.  

[Beau Vine 55867]

23 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Which is it, Kevin? Do you have a deal or not? 

You have nothing. 

He doesn't have a deal.  They're going to vote again, and it will be 212-201-20-1.  Again.

This is really showing how incredibly inept he would be if he were somehow elected speaker.

[Beau Vine 55867]

In retrospect, this was a really stupid thing to say, Kev:

 

[Ted Lange 16413]

6 minutes ago, tokamak said:

forget it, he's rolling

Was it over when George Santos bombed Peale harbor?

[Bama Chick 28596]

I heard Ginni Thomas is chiming in on behalf of the tedious twenty. That'll surely clear the air and get things moving in a positive direction. 
I haven't looked it up though. Whenever I read something she wrote i can smell sulphuric sewage and I don't need that this early. 

You heard right.

[GenXer 3437]

2 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Was it over when George Santos bombed Peale harbor?

How dare you besmirch the good name of George Santos with such lies.

[Blotto 24021]

14 minutes ago, yoladu said:

4 years?

Santos is gonna get so much done, its gonna feel like 4 years. just ask him.

[Gatorubet 30720]

49 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Because Tits McGee and Ms. 6-Toes were quiet and dignified leading up to the midterms, right?  If they picked up 18 new rep seats in districts that Biden won then why would they tone things down?  It worked so they will take it to 11 now.

Or maybe elections are far more complicated and nuanced than just that. With Biden, you had an extremely unpopular president at a time of high gas prices and generationally high interest rates - coupled with a midterm election.

Just the fact of a midterm election usually results in the loss of a number of seats in both the Senate and the House for the party in power (granted, the GOP Senate candidates included the Trump shit picks).  But that does not change the fact that the Democrats picked up a Senate seat in this perfect storm of bad news for Democrats. What should have been a red tsunami wound up being a narrow house flip and a slight improvement on Senate status quo that will shut down much of the stupidity if a bill makes it out of the house.  I would argue that the GQP idiocy had a large part to do with the limited damage in what should have been a very damaging midterm election, rather than argue that everyone loved the Maga morons so much that those 18 won.  The abortion issue is still out there and will gin up Democratic voter turn out in every state that this is still an issue.…which is a ton of them.

 

 

[elfenix 34751]

27 minutes ago, yoladu said:

4 years?

that's what santos's resume will say. 

[elfenix 34751]

58 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

If we default on our debt, interest costs will go up so much that there is zero chance of balancing a budget.  

Other countries will default on their debt.  

Worldwide equity markets will tank.  

The economy will be in fucking shambles.  

It will make 1929 look like the salad days.

rEpUbLiCaNs ArE gOoD oN tHe EcOnOmY

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13629]

16 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

In retrospect, this was a really stupid thing to say, Kev:

 

"...and we're going to start by gutting the Office of Congressional Ethics!"

[Ghost of LL 15698]

45 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

It's sad that we aren't even sure of there are 6 Rs who aren't among those 18 who would be willing to vote for raising the debt ceiling.   Default scares the shit out of me.

I honestly think that if the House does not vote to raise the debt ceiling, Biden would declare an emergency and instruct the Treasury to continue issuing debt irrespective of the debt ceiling.  Dare the House to impeach him for the grave sin of saving the global economy.

Interest rates would be higher, because there's not exactly a guarantee that the debt would be legally issued.  But as a short-term (i.e., until 2025) solution, it'd probably work.

[TexPx 2336]

He doesn't have a deal.  They're going to vote again, and it will be 212-201-20-1.  Again.
This is really showing how incredibly inept he would be if he were somehow elected speaker.

I’ll just wait to see what color smoke comes from the South Wing of The Capitol.

[Macanudo 13327]

4 minutes ago, TexPx said:

I’ll just wait to see what color smoke comes from the South Wing of The Capitol.

The smoke will be brown and smell like shit.

[elfenix 34751]

caption: "and especially when she's got little perkies"

[GenXer 3437]

[Captainant 28539]

[GenXer 3437]

[C-Man 27779]

Mike Garcia chides the 212 Democrats for "staying home" and "proxy voting" for the last two years. Fucking chode.

[Neonmoon 38130]

These speeches are pure gaslighting cosplay 

It’s just amazing how dumb this country is 

[Bateshorn 9991]

https://www.daybook.com/jobs/WkMSYbtNzKCDbQv4P

Daybook is one of the premier DC job websites. 
 

I am dead 😂 

[GenXer 3437]

@Bama Chick you were expressing interest in government work. There seems to be an open position.

[Gengs1 2583]

Looks like we won’t have one this round as well

[WhatTheBuck 28930]

13 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

These speeches are pure gaslighting cosplay 

It’s just amazing how dumb this country is 

Sure, Matt Gaetz. Jim Jordan is the embodiment of purely selfless intent. Shut the fuck up, you worthless tool. 

[Jameslaw121 4494]

So know the HFC can't decide on a speaker either? Jordan and Hern???

[jimmyjazz 47203]

OK, I can't keep up with every page.  What's the Cliff's Notes version of why the Never Kevins won't support McCarthy?  He's been consistently MAGAt over the years.

[SmokeyTheBear 5569]

9 minutes ago, GenXer said:

@Bama Chick you were expressing interest in government work. There seems to be an open position.

What does the rune of Tyr mean? 

 

 

The dam is starting to break with some switches to McCarthy

Edited January 6, 2023 by SmokeyTheBear

[Tuco 5093]

1 minute ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

What does the rune of Tyr mean? 

The dam is starting to break

McCarthy has offered to place his hand in Gaetz's mouth as a guarantee.

[henrygandorf 29225]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

OK, I can't keep up with every page.  What's the Cliff's Notes version of why the Never Kevins won't support McCarthy?  He's been consistently MAGAt over the years.

[TexasHooch 5199]

Still don't think he's got it this round.

[Queen Bitch 1692]

Maybe not this round, but a tide looks to be turning...

 

[YGIFS 19458]

The plot thickens.  
 

and Leon’s getting larger!!!!!!!

[TexasHooch 5199]

They're all the also-ran crazies.  Let's see some of the principle nutbags flip.

[Francisco 2.0 32594]

9 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

OK, I can't keep up with every page.  What's the Cliff's Notes version of why the Never Kevins won't support McCarthy?  He's been consistently MAGAt over the years.

Well, he's not MAGA enough, or something like that.  I mean, it's the only possible explanation.  

 

He's just a MINO  (MAGA in name only).

 

 

Edited January 6, 2023 by Francisco 2.0

[Js1 87183]

2 minutes ago, Queen Bitch said:

Maybe not this round, but a tide looks to be turning...

 

But Chip was supposed to bring 10 with him!!! 4 isn't 10.  

[Biff Tannen 46168]

THIS IS ALL SO FUCKING DUMB

[Gatorubet 30720]

Payback is a medivac if Mccarthy pulls this out. 
.

[YGIFS 19458]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

But Chip was supposed to bring 10 with him!!! 4 isn't 10.  

It is if your Chip’s oft-disappointed wife. 

[C-Man 27779]

5 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

Still don't think he's got it this round.

Probably not. But it's sliding in his direction now. What has he promised these fucks to get to this point?

[Firemans4Horn 18533]

He lost again

[Js1 87183]

0-12.  

1 minute ago, C-Man said:

Probably not. But it's sliding in his direction now. What has he promised these fucks to get to this point?

[C-Man 27779]

3 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Well, he's not MAGA enough, or something like that.  I mean, it's the only possible explanation.  

Sprinkled in with a little of this ...

[Beau Vine 55867]

I'd like to congratulate Kevin McCarthy for making it through the C's on the roll call before losing!

Kudos!

[Bateshorn 9991]

16 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

OK, I can't keep up with every page.  What's the Cliff's Notes version of why the Never Kevins won't support McCarthy?  He's been consistently MAGAt over the years.

 

[washparkhorn 9973]