the 2023 speaker of the house voting thread of implosion

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12,301]

everything Trump touches dies.

works well when you're focusing in on the GOP, but then gets a little sad when you zoom out.

we're fucked.

[Beau Vine 55,867]

1 minute ago, tokamak said:

Victoria Spartz of Indiana has been voting "Present" because she's super-duper principled, or something. She flipped to McCarthy.

She just interviewed on FN, and she's as stupid as a bag of IconoclastLonghorns.

[Beau Vine 55,867]

16 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

It's over.  At least 4 more will flip on the next vote -- these people are children, and children do not enjoy standing by themselves.  

They don't even have the guts to stand up and nominate someone. 

[Mo Horn 8,938]

No third person nominated this time. That's new

[Brisketexan 106,900]

1 hour ago, washparkhorn said:

So, basically....we're Italy now.

 

Can barely form a government, and when we do, it's beholden to the worst of the worst.  Perfect.

That said, the GQP can no longer run from its fringe, it can't say "we aren't MTG and Boebert and Gaetz."  Nope -- that's EXACTLY what you are, that's ALL that you are, because you voluntarily put them in charge.  The GQP is the party of reality TV fascist morons, and EXCLUSIVELY that.

[Gatorubet 30,720]

Dip shit out front acknowledge they’re going to be investigating presidential misconduct in Russia and Ukraine. I’m glad that France and Poland are stepping up because those motherfuckers are trying to kneecap our support of Ukraine.

Edited January 6, 2023 by Gatorubet

[Beau Vine 55,867]

Biggs and Bobo vote for Gym.

Edited January 6, 2023 by Beau Vine

[TexasEd 8,266]

7 minutes ago, Homercles said:

I hate lamp

 

[Queen Bitch 1,692]

Boebert flips her vote to Jordan after grandstanding for Hern these last few votes, lulz

 

I just can't quit this shitshow.

[tokamak 6,687]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

OK, I can't keep up with every page.  What's the Cliff's Notes version of why the Never Kevins won't support McCarthy?  He's been consistently MAGAt over the years.

A big part of it seems to be due to PACs aligned with McCarthy supporting more "electable" candidates in GOP primaries, instead of nutjobs.

[Js1 87,185]

2 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Dip shit out front acknowledge they’re going to be investigating presidential misconduct in Russia and Ukraine. I’m glad that France and Poland are stepping up because those motherfuckers are trying to kneecap our support of Ukraine.

Big reason why the omnibus had Ukraine funding. Even Mitch knows these fucktard traitors are going to cut any funding to Ukraine to appease Daddy Putin 

[Valmy77 13,626]

3 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Dip shit out front acknowledge they’re going to be investigating presidential misconduct in Russia and Ukraine. I’m glad that France and Poland are stepping up because those motherfuckers are trying to kneecap our support of Ukraine.

Fascists supporting fascists.

[Mo Horn 8,938]

Several of the 7 have already flipped to McCarthy. He might win it this time. 

[Valmy77 13,626]

1 minute ago, Mo Horn said:

Several of the 7 have already flipped to McCarthy. He might win it this time. 

Maybe. 3 have voted for Jordan. Two more and McCarthy fails again.

But he can do the plurality thing now.

[Beau Vine 55,867]

Rapey McForehead votes for Jordan.  That's 3.  

[Valmy77 13,626]

4 now. Just one more will block McCarthy.

[Beau Vine 55,867]

Good votes for Jordan.  4!

[Jameslaw121 4,494]

38 minutes ago, C-Man said:

CNN said 14 GQP nut-jobs flipped to McCarthy but there are seven votes for Jordan/Hern. I thought there were 20 "Never Kevin" terrorists. How does that math shake out?

I think one was a "present" vote that switched to MCarthy, but I'm not 100% sure

[Valmy77 13,626]

There is 5. 217 for McCarthy at best.

[Js1 87,185]

Just now, Valmy77 said:

There is 5. 217 for McCarthy at best.

The 5-7 holdouts are going to be campaign money rich after this. 

[Jameslaw121 4,494]

6 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Maybe. 3 have voted for Jordan. Two more and McCarthy fails again.

But he can do the plurality thing now.

Can he pull all his promises after the plurality vote and tell them they didn't live up to their promises so he isn't going to abide by them

[Js1 87,185]

1 minute ago, Jameslaw121 said:

Can he pull all his promises after the plurality vote and tell them they didn't live up to their promises so he isn't going to abide by them

He could, but he still needs to pass a rules package. 

[Firemans4Horn 18,533]

 

[hornmpa96 2,668]

1 minute ago, Jameslaw121 said:

Can he pull all his promises after the plurality vote and tell them they didn't live up to their promises so he isn't going to abide by them

I think he still has to live up to his promises to the ones that flipped.

When should I move all of my investments to cash for the inevitable US debt default?

[Brisketexan 106,900]

17 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Big reason why the omnibus had Ukraine funding. Even Mitch knows these fucktard traitors are going to cut any funding to Ukraine to appease Daddy Putin 

 

17 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Fascists supporting fascists.

These.

Imagine how batshit insane and utterly shittastic a government run by Gosar, Gaetz, Boebert and crew would be.

Then triple that.  Then triple it again.  Then multiply it by eleventy billion.  Nope, you still don't get it.  It's going to be even more batshit insane and shittastic than that.

[Francisco 2.0 32,595]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Imagine how batshit insane and utterly shittastic a government run by Gosar, Gaetz, Boebert and crew would be.

Then triple that.  Then triple it again.  Then multiply it by eleventy billion.  Nope, you still don't get it.  It's going to be even more batshit insane and shittastic than that.

 

I'm imagining the legislation that is gonna pour out of the House in the coming weeks/months.  The mind reels at what they might to propose, and thanks to Team R, get passed.

Some of this is going to be so caustic even Cruz will blanch.

 

 

[Sbbruin 22,144]

7 minutes ago, hornmpa96 said:

I think he still has to live up to his promises to the ones that flipped.

When should I move all of my investments to cash for the inevitable US debt default?

crypto is the only safe play at this point.

[Mdhorn 6,166]

7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

 

These.

Imagine how batshit insane and utterly shittastic a government run by Gosar, Gaetz, Boebert and crew would be.

Then triple that.  Then triple it again.  Then multiply it by eleventy billion.  Nope, you still don't get it.  It's going to be even more batshit insane and shittastic than that.

I don't think it can get that batshit.  Somebody has to be able to run things and they can't.  It's the equivalent of babies trying to drive a car--can't be done.  

Edit: I guess it could, but there'd be fires everywhere, starting with their own.  And in a battle of the strongest survive, none of them survive.  

Edited January 6, 2023 by Mdhorn

[Blotto 24,021]

1 minute ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

I'm imagining the legislation that is gonna pour out of the House in the coming weeks/months.  The mind reels at what they might to propose, and thanks to Team R, get passed.

Some of this is going to be so caustic even Cruz will blanch.

He'll be so busy sucking his own dick, he wont even notice

[Ted Lange 16,413]

 

 

This guy definitely still does "NOT" jokes.

[hayden_horn 11,402]

1 minute ago, Ted Lange said:

 

 

This guy definitely still does "NOT" jokes.

psyche, imo

[DDD Dad 14,650]

4 minutes ago, Blotto said:

He'll be so busy sucking his own dick, he wont even notice

 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13,629]

29 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Fascists supporting fascists.

People who need peopllllleeee.....

[tokamak 6,687]

One more flip this time. Down to 6 hold outs.

Gaetz, Good, and (I think) Boebert have all said they'd never vote for McCarthy under any circumstance. Not sure about the other 3.

[DDD Dad 14,650]

3 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

 

 

This guy definitely still does "NOT" jokes.

Boebert did the same thing yesterday.

[TexArcher 39,072]

2024 is gonna be such a gigantic shitshow.  I might legit have to move up my expat plans before we go full dystopia up in this bitch.

[Hermanator 7,674]

1 hour ago, naija said:

Explain to my basic brain, how is it a good thing if McCarthy gets elected Speaker with the Freedom Caucus pulling the strings?

There is no more good thing for america. It's going to be downhill and we'll just have to find out how deep is  rock bottom. 

[DDD Dad 14,650]

So does Kevin go to plurality now that he's got the edge?  Figure the 6 never Kevins likely would go along with a R rules package to give them a majority.

BRING ON THE HUNTER INVESTIGATIONS!!!

[Francisco 2.0 32,595]

It's a damn shame what is happening to this fine organization.

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-never-kevin-chaos-is-tearing-fox-news-apart?utm_source=web_push

 

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The seemingly never-ending fight for the House speakership has exposed a glaring rift within the Republican Party, with a group of hard-right holdouts refusing to budge when it comes to electing Kevin McCarthy as Speaker of the House.

While McCarthy continues to negotiate and offer up every concession he can think of to try to sway this MAGA faction to finally give him the speaker’s gavel, the ultraconservative members have declared themselves “Never Kevin” while watching McCarthy squirm through 11 (and counting) unsuccessful votes.

 

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Throughout this ordeal, the majority of Fox News hosts and commentators have clearly thrown in with the establishment wing of the GOP (and former President Donald Trump) and urged the far-right contingent to do what’s best for the party and stand down. Yet, at the same time, the conservative cable giant’s loudest and most influential voice has increasingly backed the anti-McCarthy crowd while taking swings at his own colleagues.

With each round of speaker votes that McCarthy has lost since Tuesday, primetime star Tucker Carlson has grown increasingly more outspoken in his support for the rebel group of lawmakers opposing the California lawmaker.

 

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For example, after McCarthy fell short in his first three votes, Carlson called the inter-party struggle “refreshing” and a sign of true “democracy” while simultaneously praising McCarthy—whom he has long criticized.

“To be fair, this is politics and McCarthy does have strengths,” he declared. “It’s not easy being speaker when the House is this closely divided. And in some ways, Kevin McCarthy is perfectly suited for that. He’s skilled in politics. Not a small thing.”

 

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The right-wing nationalist host, though, set a marker that night, listing off a set of demands that the holdouts would force McCarthy to accept in order to become speaker. According to Carlson on Tuesday night, McCarthy shouldn’t be speaker unless he appointed Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) to chair a “Frank Church committee” probing the FBI and releasing all the footage from the Jan. 6 insurrection. (Carlson has pushed several conspiracy theories about the Capitol attack.)

By the time Wednesday arrived, Carlson made it clear that he was fully siding with the “Never Kevin” crowd, all while most of his Fox cohorts were begging the group to fold and end the standoff.

“Oh, you've got reservations about Kevin McCarthy? You don't want to be ruled by a man who wears a Ukrainian flag lapel pin and lives with Frank Luntz?” Carlson snarked on Wednesday night, referencing McCarthy’s close friendship with Luntz, a pollster and GOP insider.

Carlson also blasted Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX), a vocal critic of the anti-McCarthy hardliners, calling the conservative lawmaker “the snarling face of the donor class” for comparing the group to “terrorists.”

Just an hour later, however, Carlson’s primetime compadre Sean Hannity locked horns with Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO), one of the leaders of the “Never Kevin” contingent. Repeatedly urging the pro-Trump congresswoman to “pack it in” and take the loss, Hannity grew increasingly agitated as Boebert dismissed his pleas.

Hannity’s shouting match with Boebert, meanwhile, prompted Fox’s smaller far-right media rivals to pounce and call out the conservative network for casting in with the “uniparty swamp rats.” Newsmax host and serial plagiarist Benny Johnson, for instance, called Hannity “the Praetorian Guard of the establishment” while decrying his “embarrassing” interview with Boebert.

If Hannity’s face-off with Boebert made the far-right mad, Fox & Friend’s host Brian Kilmeade’s description of the holdout group made them absolutely furious. Grousing on Thursday morning about the continued stalemate, Kilmeade fumed that “this is how insincere the insurrectionists are.” Realizing almost immediately how loaded that term is, especially on the right, Kilmeade tried to take it back.

“Probably shouldn't use that word,” he scrambled. “The people that don't wanna vote for Kevin McCarthy.”

His Fox & Friends co-host, Steve Doocy, was also irate over the dead-enders in the House GOP caucus. “I heard so many people say, ‘You know, that’s just how democracy works.’ This is not democracy. This is a televised hijacking,” Doocy asserted. “They are intent, simply, on blowing up the party, which they are doing, and this Congress. They do not care.”

Despite the anger directed their way by MAGA media figures and ultra-right provocateurs, Fox News pundits have continued to rush to the network’s airwaves to denounce the “Never Kevin” crew.

“Just as you can’t give in to terrorists and you can’t give in to hostage-takers, you can't allow them to take the conference hostage and win,” former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a Fox News contributor, proclaimed on Hannity’s show.

“They all look like idiots, and that's how they are acting,” Fox commentator Ari Fleischer, a former Bush White House press secretary, exclaimed on Thursday.

Fox News host Jeanine Pirro went even further on Thursday’s broadcast of The Five, crying that the hardliners were “making the Republicans look ridiculous” while attacking Boebert personally. “With all due respect, I mean, the woman barely won her race,” she added.

Fox News contributor Ben Domenech also compared the House impasse to a “terrorist standoff” during a Fox Business Network appearance on Thursday—a bridge that was apparently too far for Carlson.

The primetime host included Domenech’s remarks in a montage of other cable news personalities criticizing the holdouts, leaving his most biting mockery for his Fox colleague.

“Another one of the buffoons in the clip you just saw went further and called the whole thing terrorism, which is the remorseless use of violence against a civilian population to effect a political goal,” Carlson huffed, adding that Domenech was part of the “moron community.” (Of course, this is far from the first time that Carlson has taken public shots at his Fox News colleagues. Memorably, his mockery of veteran Fox News anchor Shepard Smith—who defended another Fox News personality that Carlson ridiculed on-air—led to Smith’s departure.)

While Carlson continues to cheer on the GOP infighting and touts it as “what democracy looks like,” another one of his right-wing primetime colleagues has tried to thread a needle by supporting the process while calling on unity.

“What looks chaotic and kind of seems counterproductive to many—it’s actually, in its own way, refreshing because it’s democracy in action,” Laura Ingraham said on Wednesday night. She also went on to say that the group was “playing with fire” and “blocking McCarthy” didn’t help them in the long run.

And on Thursday night, she was telling the rebels that it was time to end the standoff before confronting the top ringleader of the group, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL). In the end, Gaetz told Ingraham that he would resign if the Republicans struck a deal with Democrats to get McCarthy the speakership.

 

 

 

 

[Anastasis 23,720]

Feels like they missed the opportunity for peak lulz by not voting him in on the 13th ballot today. 

[SydneyCarton 49,505]

1 hour ago, Aqua Buddha said:

If they want to be a third party then be a third party and understand that you have 20 votes and the other two each have over 200.  They're wanting to be on equal footing which is nonsense.

It's not nonsense when it has worked. Those 20 will yield substantially more power than the 212 Democrats in the chamber. Substantially. 

[Brisketexan 106,900]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

It's not nonsense when it has worked. Those 20 will yield substantially more power than the 212 Democrats in the chamber. Substantially. 

Correct. The HFC run the majority party in the house, and they control the speaker, which means they run the House.  That is the outcome the GQP decided the American people needed.  Never forget that, and never forgive them.

[Sbbruin 22,144]

34 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

 

These.

Imagine how batshit insane and utterly shittastic a government run by Gosar, Gaetz, Boebert and crew would be.

Then triple that.  Then triple it again.  Then multiply it by eleventy billion.  Nope, you still don't get it.  It's going to be even more batshit insane and shittastic than that.

There's the Brisket we know and love.

[Ghost of LL 15,698]

1 hour ago, Fastbreak said:

I remember when Bismarck conceded to minority party in 1933. That was a fun time.

[DDD Dad 14,650]

8 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

It's not nonsense when it has worked. Those 20 will yield substantially more power than the 212 Democrats in the chamber. Substantially. 

 

5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Correct. The HFC run the majority party in the house, and they control the speaker, which means they run the House.  That is the outcome the GQP decided the American people needed.  Never forget that, and never forgive them.

[The Dog 44,861]

 

[Anastasis 23,720]

Amash firing up the twatbox again to share some receipts.

 

 

[Bozo_Casanova 26,851]

[Valmy77 13,626]

3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Amash firing up the twatbox again to share some receipts.

 

Yeah that was all the work of Paul Ryan, who Amash helped get the post...whoops.

Granted Pelosi thought Ryan's rule reforms were pretty sweet so kept them.

[Anastasis 23,720]

2 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Yeah that was all the work of Paul Ryan, who Amash helped get the post...whoops.

Granted Pelosi thought Ryan's rule reforms were pretty sweet so kept them.

The other tweet in that thread.