the 2023 speaker of the house voting thread of implosion

[Bojack 2073]

4 hours ago, naija said:

what happens in 40-something odd days when the spending bill provisions expire?

[WhatTheBuck 28705]

8 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Lol.  It’s beneath him.  He only wants to be King.  He tried to make himself one last time.  And he will try again if he wins.  But the only way is through the Presidency.  

It would place him “third in line to the Presidency behind Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.” He’d LOVE hearing that. 

[WhatTheBuck 28705]

6 hours ago, tokamak said:

I guess nothing should surprise me anymore, but it’s crazy and more than a little disheartening that McCarthy and his allies immediately started trying to blame the Dems for this. How does any voter not see right through that horseshit?

Their only window to the world is Fox News. They’re living in an alternative reality. 

[WhatTheBuck 28705]

2 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

The dems really fucked this up as usual. Who do they think is going to be the next speaker? Some middle of the road dude? No, it’s going to be some Q fuck face who will be 50x worse. They could have neutered Goetz and Q, but now they have empowered them…

Stupid take. 

[Dbeasy 14963]

Let’s make our speaker picks. I think they elect Jim Jordan. That would suck. 

[Anastasis 23393]

Scalise. 

[ConferenceRoom 6126]

2 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

The dems really fucked this up as usual. Who do they think is going to be the next speaker? Some middle of the road dude? No, it’s going to be some Q fuck face who will be 50x worse. They could have neutered Goetz and Q, but now they have empowered them…

McCarthy empowered Goetz. You're so transparent, dude. 

['stache 21761]

There were 210 republicans who voted to save McCarthy. You think  they’ll support Jim Jordan or even trump? Lol no way. Idiots saying this hurts dems? Those 210 will have to reach across the aisle and get at least some dems to support someone. All dems voted to oust McCarthy because he refused to offer them anything. He even lied about the possible shutdown the day before blaming dems. I heard an interview from a dem saying how could they help him when he offered nothing and was completely dishonest just the night before? Gaetz is the one who’s fucked. He’s claiming it’s because McCarthy worked with dems to avoid the shutdown, now they’ll end up with a speaker who has enough dem support to actually govern. The backfire of all backfires. 

[bernorange 8348]

For those who did not get to watch the debate before the vote:

Follow up:

https://reason.com/2023/10/03/thomas-massie-the-next-speaker-is-going-to-go-back-to-the-old-testament/

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13546]

Red Lobster is going down!

[Pig Bellmont 8691]

16 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Scalise. 

I don’t see how it’s realistically anyone else. 

[immamac 42516]

2 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

The dems really fucked this up as usual. Who do they think is going to be the next speaker? Some middle of the road dude? No, it’s going to be some Q fuck face who will be 50x worse. They could have neutered Goetz and Q, but now they have empowered them…

I don't want to pile on but this take is incorrect. The dems need to stay out of the way and let the republican party fix itself. Their goal is to get Republicans themselves to silence extremism in their party. The political pressure to select someone to maintain a functioning government is going to be far too high on Republicans for them to fuck around for too long before choosing another speaker. If they go till after shutdown and don't resolve it quickly post shutdown it essentially turns into a complete failure of the republican party and makes their 2024 election and any candidates running completely fucked. No one is rooting for no government and you can exactly pass laws even stupid ones that "conservatives" want without a functioning government. This is their bed and they made it and are going to lay in it. All the dems need to do is be a moderate voice and one of anti extremism and hostage taking who know how to be in government and that's enough to tip the balance significantly. 

[Homercles 10205]

6 hours ago, Mdhorn said:

People act like he's playing chess, checkers, or battleship, but he's incapable of winning at any of these.  

He’s playing Chutes and Ladders just like my 7yo daughter does…get lucky by catching the huge ladder that traverses 2/3rds of the map and then endlessly tries to cheat to avoid catching any of the slides, throwing fits when I call her on it. 

[cactusflinthead 27594]

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Scalise. 

Fuck no

Plus he's fighting cancer

[Underdog 28445]

C’mon Cancer! 

[ChiTownDoc 21098]

Cancer is the hero we deserve and need?  Of course.  

[Aqua Buddha 14501]

Nancy Mace if being Speaker doesn't stop her boyfriend from getting his nut in the morning.

[Bozo_Casanova 26277]

If I didn’t know better I might think this is the subtext for a lot of stuff happening right now

 

Edited October 4, 2023 by Bozo_Casanova

[tx ind 6997]

7 hours ago, naija said:

what happens in 40-something odd days when the spending bill provisions expire?

[bernorange 8348]

16 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

If I didn’t know better I might think this is the subtext for a lot of stuff happening right now

 ...

Need a photoshop of the "The Jews did this" gif to "Putin did this"

[Macanudo 12925]

10 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

There’s like 215 of them. They don’t all like the guy. Shit, they could have done this a year ago but they were determined to go round and round until McCarthy neutered himself enough to get it- which allowed for this to happen with one vote in the first place. 

I look at the GOP like police departments...  They tolerate and cover for the bad cops so they're all culpable.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13410]

4 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

The dems really fucked this up as usual. Who do they think is going to be the next speaker? Some middle of the road dude? No, it’s going to be some Q fuck face who will be 50x worse. They could have neutered Goetz and Q, but now they have empowered them…

Disagree. Could the Dems have just agreed to keep McCarthy? Sure but why would they do that. It's not like McCarthy has attempted to work well with them.

And let's say that the Dems had asked for something in return. More aide to Ukraine, stop the Biden impeachment inquiry, an actual budget spending bill. What would McCarthy have done with that request? He would have run back to the GOP meetings and show that he was the only one standing up to the Dems to prevent them from that liberal agenda.

McCarthy had 8+ months to show a willingness to reach across the aisle but instead he kissed up to the far right elements to keep his job.

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

I feel like this plays nicely within the only ethos the GOP has, which is kill government. 

[SydneyCarton 47847]

12 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Not much of a fish and chips man?

I am, but I said like a sauce. Spraying some malt vinegar on a fried fish is one thing. But I was invisioning some kind of vinegar flavored cream. 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13546]

33 minutes ago, bernorange said:

Need a photoshop of the "The Jews did this" gif to "Putin did this"

Photoshop? Carlson will brag about it on Russian State TV. 

[Francisco 2.0 32318]

2 hours ago, 'stache said:

There were 210 republicans who voted to save McCarthy. You think  they’ll support Jim Jordan or even trump? 

 

FYI, Trump was nominated 3 times back in January..and received a single vote each time.  From Gaetz.

 

 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

5 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

The dems really fucked this up as usual. Who do they think is going to be the next speaker? Some middle of the road dude? No, it’s going to be some Q fuck face who will be 50x worse. They could have neutered Goetz and Q, but now they have empowered them…

Nobody has called you a fucking moron yet so I wanted to take an opportunity to do so.

You are a fucking moron.

[Born to Run 6565]

I am, but I said like a sauce. Spraying some malt vinegar on a fried fish is one thing. But I was invisioning some kind of vinegar flavored cream. 

Like Carolina BBQ sauce?
Tartar Sauce?

[SydneyCarton 47847]

1 minute ago, Born to Run said:

Like Carolina BBQ sauce?
Tartar Sauce?

I was thinking consistency of Tartar Sauce, but flavor of straight vinegar. I think this has been overthought. 

[Beau Vine 53984]

2 hours ago, immamac said:

The dems need to stay out of the way and let the republican party fix itself. Their goal is to get Republicans themselves to silence extremism in their party. The political pressure to select someone to maintain a functioning government is going to be far too high on Republicans for them to fuck around for too long before choosing another speaker.

[Fastbreak 3957]

You think the next guy is going to work with the dems? Lol, some of you are fucking delusional. It’s going to be a year of either nothing at best or destruction at worst.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

1 minute ago, Fastbreak said:

You think the next guy is going to work with the dems? Lol, some of you are fucking delusional. It’s going to be a year of either nothing at best or destruction at worst.

You think it is the responsibility of the Democratic party to fix the Republican party. How about you stop calling other people delusional, k? 

['stache 21761]

3 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

You think the next guy is going to work with the dems? Lol, some of you are fucking delusional. It’s going to be a year of either nothing at best or destruction at worst.

Which of Gaetz' preferred people is going to draw enough republican votes? It also ultimately doesn't matter, they can't get their maga shit past the senate and white house. This entire thing is to prevent helping Ukraine, because the right is beholden to fucking Russia. Their ancestors would be rolling in their graves to learn of their new support for Russian dictatorships. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

Republicans should install Pelosi again, blame the democrats for it, and then resurrect all their anti-Pelosi ads for election year. It won’t happen for several obvious reasons but it’s about the most strategic move they could make.  

[Js1 85095]

3 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

You think it is the responsibility of the Democratic party to fix the Republican party. How about you stop calling other people delusional, k? 

Sometimes you just have to recognize some people will inherently blame the Dems. Don’t hold the majority in the House? Their fault. 

Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Republicans should install Pelosi again, blame the democrats for it, and then resurrect all their anti-Pelosi ads for election year. It won’t happen for several obvious reasons but it’s about the most strategic move they could make.  

Hillary, IMO

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

1 minute ago, 'stache said:

Which of Gaetz' preferred people is going to draw enough republican votes? It also ultimately doesn't matter, they can't get their maga shit past the senate and white house. This entire thing is to prevent helping Ukraine, because the right is beholden to fucking Russia. Their ancestors would be rolling in their graves to learn of their new support for Russian dictatorships. 

I really don't think Ukraine/Russia is the angle here. We have a group of people that believe in absolutely nothing other than self-promotion. They have no core values, no political platform. They simply want attention and are willing to destroy America in return for TV time and social media likes. 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10139]

I'm all for the shit show.  Let the infighting continue.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

Just now, MonkeyDoughnut said:

I'm all for the shit show.  Let the infighting continue.

Maybe it's entertaining and cathartic in a way, but we can't have a functioning democracy with 1 branch of government completely dysfunctional. 

Everything Trump touches dies.

[Biff Tannen 45491]

6 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Which of Gaetz' preferred people is going to draw enough republican votes? It also ultimately doesn't matter, they can't get their maga shit past the senate and white house. This entire thing is to prevent helping Ukraine, because the right is beholden to fucking Russia. Their ancestors would be rolling in their graves to learn of their new support for Russian dictatorships. 

 

2 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

I really don't think Ukraine/Russia is the angle here. We have a group of people that believe in absolutely nothing other than self-promotion. They have no core values, no political platform. They simply want attention and are willing to destroy America in return for TV time and social media likes. 

Why not both?

Let's NOT forget the somehow un-investigated ties from Russia through the NRA to the Republican coffers.  

[Pescado_Rojo 19331]

1 minute ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

I really don't think Ukraine/Russia is the angle here. We have a group of people that believe in absolutely nothing other than self-promotion. They have no core values, no political platform. They simply want attention and are willing to destroy America in return for TV time and social media likes. 

Mostly this. They aren't strategic thinkers. They want to please Trump and their financial sponsors and maximize their own exposure to the nutbar right so they can keep on grifting after they leave congress. 

[Gourmand 7774]

8 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Nobody has called you a fucking moron yet so I wanted to take an opportunity to do so.

You are a fucking moron.

Seconded. 

What an astoundingly idiotic take, @Fastbreak. 

You are a fucking moron if you can't see how the GOP is uniformly ghoulish and fundamentally unfit to govern anything, yet it's the Dems fault that the Republicans would rather destroy all institutional frameworks in the federal government (DRAIN THE SWAMPPPPP!!!!) in the name of culture war nonsense that alienates and vilifies tens of millions of voters. These clowns can't even wipe their own asses, let alone clean up their own room, but Dems fucked up because McCarthy was the best of the bunch? Newsflash: there are no good Republicans, they are all the fucking same. 

This shitshow is 100% on the rotten-to-the-core GOP. 

 

[mdmost 42843]

14 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

You think the next guy is going to work with the dems? Lol, some of you are fucking delusional. It’s going to be a year of either nothing at best or destruction at worst.

None of them are going to work with the dems in the era of Trump. McCarthy was ran out on a rail for doing so. There is no compromise on the right any longer. It's the Trump win at all costs mentality. The Dems could've stayed out of it but why did they need to be magnanimous? What has that ever gained Democrats with the radical right? F'ing McCarthy was blaming Democrats the other day for the almost shutdown, that they voted to avert. He was always going to be the weakest speaker after the 15 votes and someone needing to be Trump's puppet. Now we get to watch them be unable to pick a new speaker. It's their shitshow. Why did the Democrats need to abstain?

Edited October 4, 2023 by mdmost

[Js1 85095]

3 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Maybe it's entertaining and cathartic in a way, but we can't have a functioning democracy with 1 branch of government completely dysfunctional. 

Everything Trump touches dies.

More like 1 and 1/2. Judicial and half of Congress. The senate may suck but it’s not this goat rodeo 

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

2 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Maybe it's entertaining and cathartic in a way, but we can't have a functioning democracy with 1 branch of government completely dysfunctional. 

Everything Trump touches dies.

And unfortunately this has to hurt to the point that their voters stop voting in domestic terrorists. I know that is a big ask of a willfully ignorant voter base, but this is what has to happen. 

[jimmyjazz 45546]

Y'all need to consider the source and then ignore him.   (@Fastbreak)  This is standard operating procedure for him.

 

[Gourmand 7774]

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Y'all need to consider the source and then ignore him.   (@Fastbreak)  This is standard operating procedure for him.

 

Dipshit must be a huge Jimmy Dore fan

[Chuckie Finster 22598]

16 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

You think the next guy is going to work with the dems? Lol, some of you are fucking delusional. It’s going to be a year of either nothing at best or destruction at worst.

You're making the "Devil we know" argument without acknowledging that the "Devil we know" is really fucking bad!  He reneged on his budget deal with Biden.  He launched an impeachment inquiry on Biden.  He blamed Democrats for 1/6 literally 72 hours ago.  

Yeah, the next guy won't work with Democrats but at least he'll know that he can't expect them to bail him out when he pisses off his own party.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13546]

9 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

  He reneged on his budget deal with Biden.  He launched an impeachment inquiry on Biden.  He blamed Democrats for 1/6 literally 72 hours ago.  

The "moderate" wing of the GQP

[Bozo_Casanova 26277]

JFC here we go

 

[cactusflinthead 27594]

Scalise or Jordan?

FUCK THAT