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  On 10/6/2023 at 1:46 PM, SimonBolivar said:

This reminds me of a run in I had with a dude this week. He's coming to get a loan and just bullshitting around as normally occurs in that situation and states "us country Southern boys are just friendlier" as they've said for generations.

In the next sentence he breaks out the "I'm not going to try and Jew him or anything". The best part is if I had brought that slur to his attention he wouldn't have seen any way the two sentences worked against each other.

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Your post hurts.  Been there 1000's of times.  In a calm demeanor, I call them out now.  Every time, I'm done. (insert German dinner party nazi saying)  The South could be one of the most incredible places in the world.  Anger, ignorance, and fear are holding back would could be incredible.  But in this instance of the simulation we are getting billboards, truck stops, stripmall churches, bail bonds, and check cashing stores.

Recently was in the UK, Folks there can pick out the slight southern affect in my voice.  On two separate occasions people mentioned that they always wanted to visit the south but that they don't think its safe.   I suppose statistically they are correct, but I do think on average they would be blown away by southern hospitality.

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  On 10/6/2023 at 2:29 PM, locodos said:

Your post hurts.  Been there 1000's of times.  In a calm demeanor, I call them out now.  Every time, I'm done. (insert German dinner party nazi saying)  The South could be one of the most incredible places in the world.  Anger, ignorance, and fear are holding back would could be incredible.  But in this instance of the simulation we are getting billboards, truck stops, stripmall churches, bail bonds, and check cashing stores.

Recently was in the UK, Folks there can pick out the slight southern affect in my voice.  On two separate occasions people mentioned that they always wanted to visit the south but that they don't think its safe.   I suppose statistically they are correct, but I do think on average they would be blown away by southern hospitality.

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It's been the fight of my life, trying to show people the good. Been pretty hard to defend lately though tbh.

 

I was in London back in 2012 or so, and a saleswoman in the shop was from the Czech Republic IIRC, but anyway, she asked if I was Australian lol.

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This is an aside, but one of the most shocking changes to me over the last two decades has been the way that Texas* has been culturally subsumed into the South, in all of the worst ways - the personal characteristics  and largness of spirit that once set us apart are disappearing. I think politics has been the catalyst for that. 



*Other than East Texas, which has always been culturally Southern. 

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There’s a speaker “debate” on Fox next week. Multiple GOP members are pissed, think it’s a bad idea and are mad it’s not in private within their caucus 

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  On 10/6/2023 at 2:38 PM, G650 said:

I was in London back in 2012 or so, and a saleswoman in the shop was from the Czech Republic IIRC, but anyway, she asked if I was Australian lol.

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Apropos of nothing, last summer on a visit to NYC I asked the cute barista "Hey, I like your accent, are you from Eastern Europe?"

She said, "Yes, Belarus."

"Oh, what do you think of the Ukraine conflict?"

"Belarus, not Russia".  (spits in coffee, probably)

 

It's good to know I'm still a dumbass.

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  On 10/6/2023 at 2:43 PM, Bozo_Casanova said:

This is an aside, but one of the most shocking changes to me over the last two decades has been the way that Texas* has been culturally subsumed into the South, in all of the worst ways - the personal characteristics  and largness of spirit that once set us apart are disappearing. I think politics has been the catalyst for that. 



*Other than East Texas, which has always been culturally Southern. 

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The wife and I were having this exact same conversation.  While neither of us were born in Texas, both have long ties to the state from both our single days and into our married lives.  We lamented that Texas is different now.  It used to be unique from a cultural standpoint and there was a sense of pride about that.  Now, it's basically The South with money.  We used to have a soft spot in our hearts for Texas but if we never live there again, we're fine with that and we didn't feel that way 10 years ago.  

Texas whatever....

That being said, the cities in the South are great.  It's the rural and suburban parts that are fucked up.

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Posted
  On 10/6/2023 at 2:44 PM, jimmyjazz said:

 

Apropos of nothing, last summer on a visit to NYC I asked the cute barista "Hey, I like your accent, are you from Eastern Europe?"

She said, "Yes, Belarus."

"Oh, what do you think of the Ukraine conflict?"

"Belarus, not Russia".  (spits in coffee, probably)

 

It's good to know I'm still a dumbass.

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Oh gosh that coffee had something extra in it. I remember meeting a family that was on vacation last summer and they had Russian accents. I asked them where they were from and told me they lived in California. I told them it was okay to say they were originally from Russia once I mentioned the accent of the parents (Kids definitely have never been raised there). They were just so embarrassed to admit to anything even remotely Russian because of Ukraine.

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  On 10/6/2023 at 2:44 PM, jimmyjazz said:

 

Apropos of nothing, last summer on a visit to NYC I asked the cute barista "Hey, I like your accent, are you from Eastern Europe?"

She said, "Yes, Belarus."

"Oh, what do you think of the Ukraine conflict?"

"Belarus, not Russia".  (spits in coffee, probably)

 

It's good to know I'm still a dumbass.

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Yeah, if you're trying to talk to a cute barista maybe bringing up international conflicts isn't the right way to break the ice. 

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  On 10/6/2023 at 2:20 PM, The Dog said:

FWIW I don't think that Jordan ends up being Speaker without some serious horse trading. He's not very well liked amongst the caucus outside of the MAGA hard core.

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Horse trading usually involves compromise and their entire ethos is to never compromise. A handful of the whackos get elected and they take that as a mandate that everyone in the country agrees that the government should be shut down. He'll never be speaker, but not for the right reasons. 

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  On 10/6/2023 at 2:44 PM, Js1 said:

There’s a speaker “debate” on Fox next week. Multiple GOP members are pissed, think it’s a bad idea and are mad it’s not in private within their caucus 

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you mean a BIGGER circus:

 

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It’s basically choosing to air congressional dirty laundry. This is supposed to go on behind closed doors. Not advertise your dysfunctional clown show to everyone 

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Posted
  On 10/6/2023 at 2:43 PM, Bozo_Casanova said:

This is an aside, but one of the most shocking changes to me over the last two decades has been the way that Texas* has been culturally subsumed into the South, in all of the worst ways - the personal characteristics  and largness of spirit that once set us apart are disappearing. I think politics has been the catalyst for that. 



*Other than East Texas, which has always been culturally Southern. 

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It's been horrible to witness. I think the erosion got going back in the 80s when Texas was chic and you had phonies walking around in fucking leather vests and cowboy hats. More Texans lived down to the stereotype of the loud proud Texan. 

I recall my father who was born here seeing that "Native Texan" bumper sticker that was on so many vehicles back then. "There's something to be proud of," he said in a bemused grumble. "'I was born somewhere.' That's a real achievement."

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Posted
  On 10/6/2023 at 3:19 PM, Js1 said:

It’s basically choosing to air congressional dirty laundry. This is supposed to go on behind closed doors. Not advertise your dysfunctional clown show to everyone 

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That horse is out of the barn, isn't it?

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Posted
  On 10/6/2023 at 3:24 PM, Js1 said:

Speaker Jordan means a Dem House in 2025, I assume. 

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I read it as if he's the guy they put up for a vote then several GOP members will either vote for Jeffries or switch parties and do so. 

In other words Jordan won't be speaker it will be Jeffries instead.

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Posted
  On 10/6/2023 at 3:19 PM, Js1 said:

It’s basically choosing to air congressional dirty laundry. This is supposed to go on behind closed doors. Not advertise your dysfunctional clown show to everyone 

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If they don't get to grandstand in front of a camera and have their sick burns widely distributed, did it really happen? To them, governing is just a reality show for people who would never otherwise be famous.

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  On 10/6/2023 at 3:26 PM, The Dog said:

I read it as if he's the guy they put up for a vote then several GOP members will either vote for Jeffries or switch parties and do so. 

In other words Jordan won't be speaker it will be Jeffries instead.

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I’d be extremely surprised by that. I think it’ll end up a compromise R. I cannot see enough Republicans crossing to vote for him or switching parties. 

Posted
  On 10/6/2023 at 3:23 PM, Neonmoon said:

This is only the latest iteration of the clash between the "North" & the "South". I use quotes because the geographic distinctions aren't necessarily applicable today, but the beliefs of the cult haven't really changed much. It is a white Christian cult that wants power no matter what. Over time, they have adapted the moniker of Democrat, Redeemer, Dixiecrat, Republican, Fiscal Conservative, Tea Party, etc. It doesn't matter. What matters is they tell you what to do, and the rules don't apply to them. Everything else is all bullshit. And engaging in conversations about fiscal conservatism, family values, border security, the economy, is falling for the magic trick. They don't care about any of it. They just want to distract you while they gain more power and redraw the voting maps.  

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So.  Much.  This.

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Posted
  On 10/6/2023 at 3:29 PM, Js1 said:

I’d be extremely surprised by that. I think it’ll end up a compromise R. I cannot see enough Republicans crossing to vote for him or switching parties. 

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they could also just go independent. Keep in mind we're likely talking about the Biden district Rs who are almost certainly fucked no matter what. 

So they just burn down the GOP's majority out of spite on the way out as they are all lame ducks thanks to the kooks.

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Posted
  On 10/6/2023 at 3:17 PM, The Dog said:

 

you mean a BIGGER circus:

 

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Let's just take things to the next "Idiocracy" level and charge the American public to vote a la American Idol/America's Got Talent, etc.

 

  On 10/6/2023 at 3:19 PM, The Dog said:

 

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This didn't occur to me actually.

 

  On 10/6/2023 at 3:29 PM, Brisketexan said:

So.  Much.  This.

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I agree. This is probably the best summation of today's Republican party in so few words that I've seen.

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  On 10/6/2023 at 3:33 PM, The Dog said:

they could also just go independent. Keep in mind we're likely talking about the Biden district Rs who are almost certainly fucked no matter what. 

So they just burn down the GOP's majority out of spite on the way out as they are all lame ducks thanks to the kooks.

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I am not going to 100% assume the electorate would vote them out because they sit in a Biden district. You know how much the moronic voters like “ChEcKs AnD bAlAnCeS” 

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Love how McCarthy got on his knees for Trump but Trump wouldn't lift a finger to tweet an endorsement for McCarty in January. Now Trump is enthusiastically endorsing Jordan. Add McCarthy to a long line of people burned by Trump because McCarthy wasn't useful to him. FAFO.

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  On 10/6/2023 at 3:59 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Love how McCarthy got on his knees for Trump but Trump wouldn't lift a finger to tweet an endorsement for McCarty in January. Now Trump is enthusiastically endorsing Jordan. Add McCarthy to a long line of people burned by Trump because McCarthy wasn't useful to him. FAFO.

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Pledging your loyalty and life to an individual who is loyal only to himself is just about the dumbest fucking course of action imaginable.  And pathetic GQP bastards after pathetic GQP bastards keep doing it, the living embodiment of

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This is. The dumbest.  Fucking.   Timeline.

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Posted
  On 10/6/2023 at 3:59 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Love how McCarthy got on his knees for Trump but Trump wouldn't lift a finger to tweet an endorsement for McCarty in January. Now Trump is enthusiastically endorsing Jordan. Add McCarthy to a long line of people burned by Trump because McCarthy wasn't useful to him. FAFO.

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I don't see how Jordan doesn't win unanimous GOP votes if Trump tells the GOP to do so. If a lowly representative goes against Trump, they're most likely done in the 2024 primary. And it's not like a large group would stand up together to say no to Trump.

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  On 10/6/2023 at 4:11 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I don't see how Jordan doesn't win unanimous GOP votes if Trump tells the GOP to do so. If a lowly representative goes against Trump, they're most likely done in the 2024 primary. And it's not like a large group would stand up together to say no to Trump.

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Trump doesn't give a shit if you vote against his endorsements. Only if you vote against Trump.

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  On 10/6/2023 at 4:19 PM, The Dog said:
Trump doesn't give a shit if you vote against his endorsements. Only if you vote against Trump.
This is true. When a Trump-endorsed candidate loses-and they often do-he rarely comments. If he does it's well after the fact when he's already severed ties and then just talks about how that candidate was a loser, begged for his endorsement which gave the candidate a HUGE boost bit they still messed it up anyway because they're terrible. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
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Posted
  On 10/6/2023 at 4:19 PM, The Dog said:

Trump doesn't give a shit if you vote against his endorsements. Only if you vote against Trump.

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Trump voters aren’t so care free with those that go against his wishes. And that’s who they’d be worried about- trump voters in their home districts. 

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  On 10/6/2023 at 4:37 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

Trump voters aren’t so care free with those that go against his wishes. And that’s who they’d be worried about- trump voters in their home districts. 

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they won't remember because Trump won't bring it up. 

  On 10/6/2023 at 4:33 PM, GhostOfTomJoad said:
  On 10/6/2023 at 4:19 PM, The Dog said:
Trump doesn't give a shit if you vote against his endorsements. Only if you vote against Trump.
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This is true. When a Trump-endorsed candidate loses-and they often do-he rarely comments. If he does it's well after the fact when he's already severed ties and then just talks about how that candidate was a loser, begged for his endorsement which gave the candidate a HUGE boost bit they still messed it up anyway because they're terrible. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

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and this. he can just throw Jordan under the bus when he loses.

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Trump was plotting to get the Speaker gig back in January:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/inside-trumps-earlier-secret-bid-house-speaker-mccarthy/story?id=103779066

 

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In reporting for my upcoming book, "Tired of Winning: Donald Trump and the End of the Grand Old Party," I learned that Trump had secretly plotted to be elected speaker back in January, when he was publicly supporting Rep. Kevin McCarthy, who was struggling to get the votes he needed.

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The idea of Donald Trump serving as speaker was first proposed on the day he left the White House -- Jan. 20, 2021 -- by a pro-Trump activist named Rogan O'Handley, who went by the name "@DC_Draino" on social media. The idea was soon aggressively pushed by Steve Bannon, Trump's former chief strategist in the White House. At first Trump had no interest in the job, but that all changed as he watched McCarthy fail in vote after vote on the House floor in early January of this year.  What follows is an exclusive excerpt from "Tired of Winning,' which will be published on Nov. 14.

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