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Mayo was also Belichick's hand-picked successor and it was in his contract that Mayo would get the job when he left. IMHO this was never going to work.

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that list is why you should become a head coach, even if you truly believe you just want to be a coordinator. It's like once you enter the rotation, there will always be an opportunity to jump back in somewhere.

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The Las Vegas Raiders fired Antonio Pierce after his first full season as head coach, the team announced Tuesday.

The Raiders are retaining general manager Tom Telesco, who was hired for the role last season, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

Raiders limited owner Tom Brady is expected to be part of a collaborative committee to interview head coaching candidates and support team owner Mark Davis, league sources told Schefter. 

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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43324313/source-raiders-fire-antonio-pierce-finishing-4-13

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  On 1/6/2025 at 11:09 PM, naija said:

that list is why you should become a head coach, even if you truly believe you just want to be a coordinator. It's like once you enter the rotation, there will always be an opportunity to jump back in somewhere.

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they don't call it the "coaching carousel" for nothing.

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The Raiders have not won the Super Bowl since the 1983 season. 

The level of ineptitude is just amazing.

Jim Plunkett, Marcus Allen, Kenny King, Todd Christensen, Cliff Branch, Dave Dalby, Ted Hendricks, Lyle Alzado, Howie Long, Mikey Marvin, Matt Milley, Lester Hayes, Mike Haynes, Vann McElroy and others were on that roster. These are just the names I could come up with off the top of my head.

Just criminal in what they have done to that franchise.  

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  On 1/6/2025 at 9:25 PM, randomhorn said:

I guess when you’re 5-12, 7-10 seems like a step up 

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It is a very Chicago Bears sort of move. As a Cowboys fan who lived in Chicago for 10 years... I sadly relate to their fans. But.. Chicago has played in a Super Bowl since Troy Aikman retired. 

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  On 1/7/2025 at 10:58 PM, PittsburghTiger said:

The Raiders have not won the Super Bowl since the 1983 season. 

The level of ineptitude is just amazing.

Jim Plunkett, Marcus Allen, Kenny King, Todd Christensen, Cliff Branch, Dave Dalby, Ted Hendricks, Lyle Alzado, Howie Long, Mikey Marvin, Matt Milley, Lester Hayes, Mike Haynes, Vann McElroy and others were on that roster. These are just the names I could come up with off the top of my head.

Just criminal in what they have done to that franchise.  

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It's going to be awesome when they trade up to #1 so they can get Travis Hunter. 

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  On 1/7/2025 at 10:58 PM, PittsburghTiger said:

The Raiders have not won the Super Bowl since the 1983 season. 

The level of ineptitude is just amazing.

Jim Plunkett, Marcus Allen, Kenny King, Todd Christensen, Cliff Branch, Dave Dalby, Ted Hendricks, Lyle Alzado, Howie Long, Mikey Marvin, Matt Milley, Lester Hayes, Mike Haynes, Vann McElroy and others were on that roster. These are just the names I could come up with off the top of my head.

Just criminal in what they have done to that franchise.  

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Don’t know why this post irritated me. I guess I’ve always thought Super Bowls is a flukey metric for greatness vs. looking at a team or player’s winning percentage. The Lions and Browns have never even played in a Super Bowl game. The Bengals, Bills, Titans, Chargers, Falcons, and Cardinals have never won one. Does that render them all shittier than the Raiders? And a perennial 9-7 dude Eli Manning is rolling around with two rings.
 

The Raiders presently suck because they hired Mike Mayock as GM a few years ago, who drafted like a fantasy fanboi. One player who was a hit went to jail for murder. They jettisoned their 8-8/9-7 guy Derek Carr and got much worse at QB. They let Josh Jacobs go and traded Davonte Adams for a fraction of what they gave for him. They shouldn’t have caved after the Gruden email leak. Franchise is a mess though. 

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  On 1/9/2025 at 1:26 PM, Murfdogg21 said:

Don’t know why this post irritated me. I guess I’ve always thought Super Bowls is a flukey metric for greatness vs. looking at a team or player’s winning percentage. The Lions and Browns have never even played in a Super Bowl game. The Bengals, Bills, Titans, Chargers, Falcons, and Cardinals have never won one. Does that render them all shittier than the Raiders? And a perennial 9-7 dude Eli Manning is rolling around with two rings.
 

The Raiders presently suck because they hired Mike Mayock as GM a few years ago, who drafted like a fantasy fanboi. One player who was a hit went to jail for murder. They jettisoned their 8-8/9-7 guy Derek Carr and got much worse at QB. They let Josh Jacobs go and traded Davonte Adams for a fraction of what they gave for him. They shouldn’t have caved after the Gruden email leak. Franchise is a mess though. 

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My point was that they threw away greatness for just about 40 years of idiocy. Nine 10-win seasons since that Super Bowl. Two playoff appearances in the past 23 seasons.

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  On 1/9/2025 at 2:08 PM, PittsburghTiger said:

My point was that they threw away greatness for just about 40 years of idiocy. Nine 10-win seasons since that Super Bowl. Two playoff appearances in the past 23 seasons.

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The Raiders are absolutely terrible, but they are also by far and away the poorest NFL franchise, in owner personal wealth terms.  As a throwback to the old AFL, the Davis family made their money AS team owners.  He's probably the only non-billionaire at the league meetings.  It doesn't excuse their terrible decision making, but it does provide context for why they are consistently stupid in almost every aspect of the team's management.  Because Al Davis literally talked his way into the Raiders organizational structure, acted as coach, scout, gm, etc during their AFL years,  and leveraged that as a salaried employee into a minority stake, and eventually ownership, I suspect in addition to lack of resources, his son and current owner, Mark Davis is simply not able to separate the Football Team from the Family Business in a way that even Jerruh would find confusing. 

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  On 1/9/2025 at 3:15 PM, Bateshorn said:

The Raiders are absolutely terrible, but they are also by far and away the poorest NFL franchise, in owner personal wealth terms.  As a throwback to the old AFL, the Davis family made their money AS team owners.  He's probably the only non-billionaire at the league meetings.  It doesn't excuse their terrible decision making, but it does provide context for why they are consistently stupid in almost every aspect of the team's management.  Because Al Davis literally talked his way into the Raiders organizational structure, acted as coach, scout, gm, etc during their AFL years,  and leveraged that as a salaried employee into a minority stake, and eventually ownership, I suspect in addition to lack of resources, his son and current owner, Mark Davis is simply not able to separate the Football Team from the Family Business in a way that even Jerruh would find confusing. 

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Mark Davis also seems like the kind of guy that would lose the team to Dana White in a poker game or some shit. 

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  On 1/9/2025 at 3:15 PM, Bateshorn said:

The Raiders are absolutely terrible, but they are also by far and away the poorest NFL franchise, in owner personal wealth terms.  As a throwback to the old AFL, the Davis family made their money AS team owners.  He's probably the only non-billionaire at the league meetings.  It doesn't excuse their terrible decision making, but it does provide context for why they are consistently stupid in almost every aspect of the team's management.  Because Al Davis literally talked his way into the Raiders organizational structure, acted as coach, scout, gm, etc during their AFL years,  and leveraged that as a salaried employee into a minority stake, and eventually ownership, I suspect in addition to lack of resources, his son and current owner, Mark Davis is simply not able to separate the Football Team from the Family Business in a way that even Jerruh would find confusing. 

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  On 1/9/2025 at 3:58 PM, Pescado_Rojo said:

Mark Davis also seems like the kind of guy that would lose the team to Dana White in a poker game or some shit. 

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Totally. 

The owners would love to see Davis sell to a well capitalized ownership group.  

  On 1/9/2025 at 4:28 PM, PittsburghTiger said:

 

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That's based on an a forbes estimate from his wiki profile, and I don't know how much I entirely trust those. Sheila Hamp is a Ford Heiress.

Davis' worth is the team. Dan Snyder was reported to be worth billions before he sold the team, but the NFL had to lend him money to buy out his partners.  

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Ha, he gone too. 

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The Las Vegas Raiders have fired general manager Tom Telesco after one season, the team announced Thursday.

The move comes two days after the team fired coach Antonio Pierce after his first full season as the team's coach. 

"We appreciate his efforts in helping build a foundation for the future. We wish Tom and his family all the best," the team said in a statement. 

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