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Really surprised we aren't talking about Small Government Republicans in Louisiana.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/louisiana-law-requires-id-to-view-porn

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Websites containing 33.3% or more of pornographic content are responsible for checking users' age. Presumably residents could get around that by using a VPN, though.

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Louisiana residents looking to get their New Year's jollies were met this week by an age verification request before accessing online porn. As of Sunday, Jan. 1, a new law requires websites containing 33.3% or more pornographic content to verify individuals' age using a government-issued form of identification.

The goal of HB 142(Opens in a new window)—introduced last year by Rep. Laurie Schlegel (R-LA) and approved in June by Gov. John Bel Edwards—aims to not only keep anyone under the age of 18 from watching porn, but to hold accountable the websites that readily supply it.

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"Pornography is creating a public health crisis and having a corroding influence on minors," the legislation text says. "Due to advances in technology, the universal availability of the internet, and limited age verification requirements, minors are exposed to pornography earlier in age."

"Pornography is destroying our children and they're getting unlimited access to it on the internet and so if the pornography companies aren't going to be responsible, I thought we need to go ahead and hold them accountable," Schlegel, a licensed professional counselor and certified sex addiction therapist, told New Orleans-based Fox 8(Opens in a new window).

You can either use the app provided by the State of Louisiana (which then knows you've been looking at porn), or you can use other means setup by the websites, which, yeah, do you really want to be giving porn websites copies of your IDs, education, mortgage, employment, tc.

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While many explicit websites already require users to enter their date of birth, most don't take the extra step to verify that information. Louisiana's new law, however, stipulates that websites check government-issued IDs (or, in a pinch, public or private records from a mortgage, education, or employment document) to verify folks' age, or suffer the consequences. Schlegel recommends collaborating with digital driver's license app LA Wallet—free for iOS and Android users.

There are, of course, loopholes, like using a fake ID or obscuring your location with a VPN. Websites could also reduce their pornographic material to 33.2%—0.1% under the legal limit.

 

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These talk about the potential for scammers, but I'd be more concerned that the State of Louisiana is creating a mechanism to build a database of those viewing porn and who are dumb enough not to use a VPN.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/01/no-porn-without-id-louisiana-law-forces-porn-sites-to-verify-users-ages/

https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/louisianas-new-porn-law-is-a-privacy-time-bomb

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"To its credit, Louisiana is one of the few states in a position to actually verify identification and age information online. The state passed a digital ID law in 2016, which led to the creation of LA Wallet(Opens in a new window)—a state-backed service that gives Louisiana residents a legal ID in a smartphone app and provides businesses with the means to verify age or identity. The website for the service says that LA Wallet is also accepted by law enforcement. There is a much bigger and more complex discussion to be had about the pros and cons of digitizing government IDs, but the tiny smidgen of good news is that Louisiana residents seeking to access pornography won't have to deal with porn sites storing a pile of their personal information just to verify age."

Well, almost. In its reporting, Ars Technica says(Opens in a new window) that would-be pornography consumers visiting PornHub must first create an account with AllpassTrust—a separate service that appears to offer age verification for all of PornHub's sibling sites—and are then referred to the LA Wallet service. AllpassTrust's privacy policy(Opens in a new window) says it only receives age verification in this process. 

This is just one example from among myriad adult sites, but even this scenario requires site visitors to trust several entities and create multiple accounts. Bear in mind, too, that other adult sites will likely have their own implementation, with more accounts, more intermediaries, and more opportunities for failure. All of them are unfamiliar to site visitors who, really, just came here to do some personal business and not have to make decisions about whether or not a particular vendor is a good steward of their personal information.

It's no stretch of the imagination to assume that a disreputable adult site might take advantage of this new requirement and force visitors to provide oodles of personal information to be later used for marketing, to sell to data brokers, or to be stolen by attackers. 

This new law is also a boon for scammers keen to commit identity theft, because it trains people to hand over valuable personal information online. A common phishing tactic is to create fake websites that mimic real ones and then prompt visitors to input their login credentials. You might think you're logging into your bank's website, but in reality, you're sending your username and password information to the bad guys. Clever scammers will no doubt masquerade as pornographic websites or perhaps even identity-verification services in order to trick visitors into providing copies of their state IDs or other personal information.

This wouldn't be limited to just driver's licenses. As PCMag reported previously, other forms of identification are accepted: "Louisiana's new law, however, stipulates that websites check government-issued IDs (or, in a pinch, public or private records from a mortgage, education, or employment document) to verify folks' age[.]" 

With such a startlingly broad array of information accepted by legitimate services, site visitors will become inured to the idea of handing over any kind of privacy information or document to anyone who asks. 

Also, this law could not affect only people living in Louisiana, but likely visitors to the state as well. This creates another concern: Can these sites and services accurately determine whether someone is within the state and subject to the law and protect their privacy in the process?

Pornography may also impact brain development and functioning, contribute to emotional and medical illnesses, shape deviant sexual arousal, and lead to difficulty in forming or maintaining positive, intimate relationships, as well as promoting problematic or harmful sexual behaviors and addiction.

We should always be skeptical of vague "think of the children" arguments—especially when they apply to privacy—but there are several terms in the legislation that leap out as deeply questionable. "Sex addiction" isn't a real thing, as Mashable reported(Opens in a new window) in an excellent piece. And the "may" in "pornography may also impact brain development" is doing an awful lot of heavy lifting.

Moreover, "deviant sexual arousal" and vague notions of emotional illness associated with sex and pornography have long been used to marginalize and oppress LGBTQ people, and we should be highly suspicious of their use in any law. One cannot help but wonder what these terms mean to the people who wrote the law, and how they will be interpreted later.

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16 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Really surprised we aren't talking about Small Government Republicans in Louisiana.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/louisiana-law-requires-id-to-view-porn

You can either use the app provided by the State of Louisiana (which then knows you've been looking at porn), or you can use other means setup by the websites, which, yeah, do you really want to be giving porn websites copies of your IDs, education, mortgage, employment, tc.

 

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31 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Hadn’t heard about this. Obviously the real goal of the lawmakers is to ultimately force the porn sites to block LA IP addresses to avoid getting caught up in these laws.

Or reduce the amount of porn they have on their sites to less than 33%.

And to scare plenty of technically non-savvy folks from visiting porn sites in the first place, since some will be thinking that the government will have a way to know they've been visiting them.

Yeah, the end-game is to eventually block LA IPs, just like various  sites/providers block various IPs rather than spend the money and time to deal with this or that law/requirement.

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Or reduce the amount of porn they have on their sites to less than 33%.
And to scare plenty of technically non-savvy folks from visiting porn sites in the first place, since some will be thinking that the government will have a way to know they've been visiting them.
Yeah, the end-game is to eventually block LA IPs, just like various  sites/providers block various IPs rather than spend the money and time to deal with this or that law/requirement.

Yep. You searching “gay gangbang on a sailboat in Avalon Harbor” is nobody’s business
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50 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

By the way, if Louisiana gets away with this, you can't tell me Dan Patrick and Greg Abbott and Briscoe Cain and the other "Texas Freedom Caucus" yahoos won't try and push this through the Texas Legislature.

They'll be too busy trying to ban trans people from the state to worry about that, probably 

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Besides the dumb theocracy law that is further proof the US is a shitshow, I am encouraged to see a digital ID being embraced by states. Physicals Wallets are no longer necessary except for drivers license. Once that gets fixed. Bye bye wallet. 

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The Louisiana Wallet?  Is that anything like the Cleveland Steamer?

It's when you tell the chick you picked up in the Fabourg to clap her hands while you take a piss so you can make sure she isn't going through your wallet, but she can't 'cause they're stuck together with cum, hurricane syrup, and for some reason-carmex lip balm. 

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14 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

The Louisiana Wallet?  Is that anything like the Cleveland Steamer?

It's when you tell the chick you picked up in the Fabourg to clap her hands while you take a piss so you can make sure she isn't going through your wallet, but she can't 'cause they're stuck together with cum, hurricane syrup, and for some reason-carmex lip balm. 

Oddly specific. 

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2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Coming soon to every other HFC state.

Yep. How much you want to bet this same law gets introduced as a bill this session in Texas?

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1 hour ago, kevwun said:

VPN companies are going to make so much money in Louisiana that one of them will buy the naming rights to the Superdome the next time it comes open

NIL deals out the wazoo. 

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4 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Besides the dumb theocracy law that is further proof the US is a shitshow, I am encouraged to see a digital ID being embraced by states. Physicals Wallets are no longer necessary except for drivers license. Once that gets fixed. Bye bye wallet. 

Where will a high school guy carry his emergency condom?

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5 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Besides the dumb theocracy law that is further proof the US is a shitshow, I am encouraged to see a digital ID being embraced by states. Physicals Wallets are no longer necessary except for drivers license. Once that gets fixed. Bye bye wallet. 

not a big fan of handing my phone to a cop at all

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Yep. How much you want to bet this same law gets introduced as a bill this session in Texas?

Texas lawmaker reveals he has Asperger's during Autism Awareness Month speech

it will be interesting to see how our DT friends handle this when it happens...i wonder how the wingnuts on tigerdroppings are taking it?

porn is like weed, it crosses every party line. how will the Leopard Eating Faces Party supporters react to this face-eating development?

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3 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

This database of names and porn viewed will be the most unhackable database ever.

-The Party that claims government can't do anything right

That’s the FEDERAL government. This is going to be done by the state of Louisiana’s finest IT people and contracting agents. So rest easy. 

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Yeah, this should do wonders for their incel base.  

"Remember those three things we offered you to assuage your frustration about your lack of romantic relationships and intellectual advancement?  Yep, porn, guns, and video games?  Yeah, we're gonna take away porn.  Video games are probably next.  So we can't help but wish all the luck in the world with the rest of all that..."  

Also, the reboot to "True Detective Season 1" seems lit as fuck.  Not that S.2 Vince Vaughn shit, I mean a direct sequel to S.1 with the Staties IT dept. tracking this shit down.  

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14 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Yeah, this should do wonders for their incel base.  

"Remember those three things we offered you to assuage your frustration about your lack of romantic relationships and intellectual advancement?  Yep, porn, guns, and video games?  Yeah, we're gonna take away porn.  Video games are probably next.  So we can't help but wish all the luck in the world with the rest of all that..."  

Also, the reboot to "True Detective Season 1" seems lit as fuck.  Not that S.2 Vince Vaughn shit, I mean a direct sequel to S.1 with the Staties IT dept. tracking this shit down.  

So….more guns?

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Why is the government getting involved with enforcement here? The government going to start checking/keeping IDs at strip clubs on Bourbon Street, too? What about other sites like Reddit or Twitter?
 

Classic inventing a solution in search of a problem with a little QANON/pizzagate “Think of the children!!!” bullshit thrown in for good measure. 

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5 hours ago, YGIFS said:

The Louisiana Wallet?  Is that anything like the Cleveland Steamer?

It's when you tell the chick you picked up in the Fabourg to clap her hands while you take a piss so you can make sure she isn't going through your wallet, but she can't 'cause they're stuck together with cum, hurricane syrup, and for some reason-carmex lip balm. 

Do you know what the High Table does to a whore who uses her toes and feet to go through an Adjudicator’s wallet? 

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