Joe Biden 2023: The Dark Brandon Rises

[Biff Tannen 45691]

Look at y'all trying to reason with an unreasonable clown.

[Anastasis 23475]

3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Certainly not, if you don't see 49% of the population controlling 82% of the Senate as a problem.

You chuckle fucks control the senate currently. Don’t blame the constitution for your lack of political balls. 

[elfenix 34307]

12 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

jobless claims are still historically on the high side

are they?

[Anastasis 23475]

Aggy level selective time frames really help this exchange 

[jimmyjazz 45975]

9 hours ago, elfenix said:

are they?

"High side" for the period I plotted.  The point was that the statement in question referenced the CHANGE in initial jobless claims.  It was a big drop %-wise.

[StassneyHorn 6613]

14 hours ago, Anastasis said:

You chuckle fucks control the senate currently. Don’t blame the constitution for your lack of political balls. 

Control happens at 60. 51 is directing.

[jimmyjazz 45975]

36 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Control happens at 60. 51 is directing.

It doesn't matter.  The representation is completely skewed to people in small states, far more than the Founding Fathers could have anticipated.  Sound familiar?

[bolverk 29684]

Here's a good visual on it. Texas has 12 individual counties which each have a greater population than Wyoming.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33874]

reforming the senate is a fucking pipe dream right now. why don't we focus on getting candidates elected that don't try to shit all over what does work in this country; then tackle the less attainable things at a later time when shit's not literally on fire

[Anastasis 23475]

Just jettison the filibuster as a starting point and let’s see how that goes. 

[Anastasis 23475]

Of the cloture requirements rather. I do think that old school filibuster should be allowed. Makes for good political theatre. 

Edited July 1, 2023 by Anastasis

[StassneyHorn 6613]

If one of you want to make a thread about migration post 2020 I’ll cum my shorts.

NC adding 212k when it had a 80k or so margin. A shit ton of conservatives moving to Idaho. Arizona solidifying itself with California influencer rejects and Only Fans sloots. California peeps into Montana. Alaska with ranked choice. Memphis drift into Mississippi. Collins retiring in Maine soon (speaking that into existence).
 

I’ve got a ton of jerkworthy material for the Senate.

[Bozo_Casanova 26488]

21 hours ago, dcbc said:

And, we're done.  Turn out the lights.  The party's over.

 

Not to fast, my friend

 

[Hookah Horns 3083]

On 7/1/2023 at 5:26 PM, Anastasis said:

Of the cloture requirements rather. I do think that old school filibuster should be allowed. Makes for good political theatre. 

And God knows that's exactly what we need more of. 

And how the fuck you gonna have a filibuster without cloture? The filibuster only exists bc the cloture requirement does. 

Edited July 3, 2023 by Hookah Horns

[Hookah Horns 3083]

On 7/1/2023 at 5:05 PM, bolverk said:

Here's a good visual on it. Texas has 12 individual counties which each have a greater population than Wyoming.

Kinda mind blowing that a county in freaking Nebraska is more populous than all of Wyoming. 

[Anastasis 23475]

10 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

And God knows that's exactly what we need more of. 

And how the fuck you gonna have a filibuster without cloture? The filibuster only exists bc the cloture requirement does. 

Is that right? I think it’s backwards. Old school filibuster was a hallmark of the senate. Cloture was a relatively late administrative addition. 

[Anastasis 23475]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

Is that right? I think it’s backwards. Old school filibuster was a hallmark of the senate. Cloture was a relatively late administrative addition. 

HistoryEdit

On 8 March 1917, during World War I, a rule allowing cloture of debate was adopted by the Senate by a vote of 76–3[27] at the urging of President Woodrow Wilson,[28] after a group of 12 anti-war senators managed to kill a bill that would have allowed Wilson to arm merchant vessels in the face of unrestricted German submarine warfare.[29] This was successfully invoked for the first time on 15 November 1919,[30] during the 66th Congress, to end a filibuster on the Treaty of Versailles.[31]

[Hookah Horns 3083]

6 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Is that right? I think it’s backwards. Old school filibuster was a hallmark of the senate. Cloture was a relatively late administrative addition. 

Yes. If there's no cloture rule requiring a super majority to end debate, the filibuster as we know it would be impossible. 

[Hookah Horns 3083]

7 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

HistoryEdit

On 8 March 1917, during World War I, a rule allowing cloture of debate was adopted by the Senate by a vote of 76–3[27] at the urging of President Woodrow Wilson,[28] after a group of 12 anti-war senators managed to kill a bill that would have allowed Wilson to arm merchant vessels in the face of unrestricted German submarine warfare.[29] This was successfully invoked for the first time on 15 November 1919,[30] during the 66th Congress, to end a filibuster on the Treaty of Versailles.[31]

Are you saying you want the filibuster without any cloture at all? 

[Anastasis 23475]

I am ok with the idea of a talking filibuster.

[tchookem 3900]

Yes. If there's no cloture rule requiring a super majority to end debate, the filibuster as we know it would be impossible. 

What about a requiring super majority to continue debate?

[StassneyHorn 6613]

[Biff Tannen 45691]

5 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

[HonkeyVape 107]

With Biden off at Camp David, the cat's away, so the mice will play. Looks like some of the interns had a 4th of July party: https://apnews.com/article/white-house-suspicious-substance-cocaine-bd7a792357a85453cf55b6c955ff1b4f

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House was briefly evacuated Sunday evening while President Joe Biden was at Camp David after the Secret Service discovered suspicious powder in a common area of the West Wing, and a preliminary test showed the substance was cocaine, two law enforcement officials said Tuesday.

Secret Service agents were doing routine rounds on Sunday when they found the white powder in an area accessible to tour groups, not in any particular West Wing office, the officials said. The officials were not authorized to discuss an ongoing investigation and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

[elfenix 34307]

Doing a line in the white house during a tour is next level

[CowboyFred 1151]

LoL of course maga Twitter is blaming the cocaine found in the White House on Hunter. It’s kinda weird how they’re so obsessed with a private citizen.

[Biff Tannen 45691]

1 hour ago, CowboyFred said:

LoL of course maga Twitter is blaming the cocaine found in the White House on Hunter. It’s kinda weird how they’re so obsessed with a private citizen.

I actually came here to see if this was happening.  I'd almost be disappointed if it wasn't.  Such an easy joke to make.

 

Edited July 5, 2023 by Biff Tannen

[Js1 85402]

7 minutes ago, CowboyFred said:

LoL of course maga Twitter is blaming the cocaine found in the White House on Hunter. It’s kinda weird how they’re so obsessed with a private citizen.

Probably Don Jr’s stash someone found 

['stache 21819]

I fully believe that it came from Diamond Joe Biden.

[dcbc 14487]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Probably Don Jr’s stash someone found 

But they said it was a small amount.

 

[StassneyHorn 6613]

"Dung beetles spend hours rolling up balls of dung to attract females," he said. "But there are some very smart dung beetles that just sit by the side and watch while others do hard work. Then they shoot in, take the dung ball, take the girl and run away with everything. That's Joe Biden.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/05/biden-hydrogen-europe-00104024

The clean energy subsidies that undergird President Joe Biden's climate agenda have just prompted one Norwegian manufacturer to choose Michigan, not Europe, as the site of a nearly $500 million factory that will produce the equipment needed to extract hydrogen from water. And other European-based companies are being tempted to follow suit, people involved in the Continent's hydrogen efforts say — making the universe's most abundant substance the latest focus of the transatlantic trade battle on green energy.

 

 

 

We have a new nickname on this jobsgiving eve-eve

[Incredulity 11675]

39 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

We have a new nickname on this jobsgiving eve-eve

“Dung Beetle JoJo 24”?

”Joe Dung-Beetle Biden”?

”No malarkey, lots of dung”?

 

 

 

 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13585]

Git r dung

[Pancho 44856]

 

[Gengs1 2583]

Probably already posted but this is great ad

 

[Bateshorn 9928]

On 7/2/2023 at 11:26 PM, Anastasis said:

Is that right? I think it’s backwards. Old school filibuster was a hallmark of the senate. Cloture was a relatively late administrative addition. 

Talking filibusters are actually worse than the existing situation.  It prevents the senate from moving on to other business.  I won’t get into the weeds, but they eliminated the talking filibuster so the senate can do two things at once.  Rn, if McConnell objects, Schumer can lay the issue aside and take something else up.  If you have talking filibusters, the senate literally can not do anything u til the objection is resolved. 

[Bateshorn 9928]

18 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

I actually came here to see if this was happening.  I'd almost be disappointed if it wasn't.  Such an easy joke to make.

 

Hunter Biden’s Giant Dong and an 8 ball is an unstoppable combo. 

[Captainant 27680]

1 minute ago, Bateshorn said:

If you have talking filibusters, the senate literally can not do anything u til the objection is resolved. 

TBH that's not really any different from when the republicans decide to go on a temper tantrum

[StassneyHorn 6613]

Got ourselves a nice little JobsGiving Eve sneak peek.  

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/06/adp-jobs-report-private-sector-added-497000-workers-in-june.html

Of course, these could be 497,000 people who are just returning with open arms to their old boss at their old jobs with old pay that were left to suffer through a pandemic that wiped out a million of their neighbors. I've been told by this by very serious hoes that are very seriously mad.

But between Joe Bi-dung stealing clean energy hydrogen jobs from girl-jeans wearing Europeans to losing his bag of nose clams while poppin wheelies on his electric bike on the White House lawn, HOW DO I EXPLAIN BIDENOMICS TO MY FOX NEWS DAD? Should I talk about 4th of July violence in Chicago?


 

 

[Anastasis 23475]

6 hours ago, Bateshorn said:

Talking filibusters are actually worse than the existing situation.  It prevents the senate from moving on to other business.  I won’t get into the weeds, but they eliminated the talking filibuster so the senate can do two things at once.  Rn, if McConnell objects, Schumer can lay the issue aside and take something else up.  If you have talking filibusters, the senate literally can not do anything u til the objection is resolved. 

Most (or much) of the Senate's work is executed through unanimous consent, correct?  If the party in power reduced cloture to simple majority over the objection of the minority party, the minority party could grind the Senate to a halt by refusing unanimous consent resolutions and gumming up the gears?  Is that basically right?  

[Biff Tannen 45691]

4 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

HOW DO I EXPLAIN BIDENOMICS TO MY FOX NEWS DAD?

You don't.  There is no saving him.  Sorry.

[Bateshorn 9928]

2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Most (or much) of the Senate's work is executed through unanimous consent, correct?  If the party in power reduced cloture to simple majority over the objection of the minority party, the minority party could grind the Senate to a halt by refusing unanimous consent resolutions and gumming up the gears?  Is that basically right?  

Sorta.  The Senate needs unanimous consent to move the previous question. Without that, the majority leader must invoke cloture to end debate on the topic at hand. Failing that, they can table the question and move on to other business, and then bring it up later if they want, because technically the question remains unresolved. Without a cloture procedure, whatever the vote required, the Senate can not move on to the business at hand without unanimous consent. It’s Robert’s Rules on steroids.

For non major legislation, there is an honor based system that allows any senator to block anything. 
 

If you reduced cloture to a majority from 3/5ths as it currently is, then 50 senators plus the VP can move the question and call a vote on the resolution/bill/whatever, which is also based on majority vote for passage. 

 

This all is because Aaron Burr thought the emerging rules of debate were duplicative and had the senate change its rules to eliminate a vote to move the previous question (end debate).  Two decades later John Calhoun realized that meant any senator could basically stop procedure. In the 1910s the created cloture of 2/3. In the 70s it was reduced to 3/5. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26488]

Nothing but respect for MY president
 

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“Dung beetles spend hours rolling up balls of dung to attract females,” he said. “But there are some very smart dung beetles that just sit by the side and watch while others do hard work. Then they shoot in, take the dung ball, take the girl and run away with everything. That’s Joe Biden.”

 

[StassneyHorn 6613]

And the BLS report shows 209k. Get shit on ADP. How do I explain Bidenomics to new grads with Series 7 licenses? I need my gainz back from yesterday

 

[jimmyjazz 45975]

Legit question:  how are two measures that far apart?  Are they measuring the same thing?

[StassneyHorn 6613]

ADP changed their formula up about a year ago. They were always off but had been getting better. Article goes into it

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-30/revamped-adp-jobs-report-returns-with-wage-data-new-methodology

[Js1 85402]

19 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

And the BLS report shows 209k. Get shit on ADP. How do I explain Bidenomics to new grads with Series 7 licenses? I need my gainz back from yesterday

 

Barely under expectations with some downward revisions. Unemployment rate went down. Wages up 

[elfenix 34307]

Someone on Reddit said that ADP's R^2 over the last 2 years is .0114.

[jimmyjazz 45975]

9 minutes ago, elfenix said:

Someone on Reddit said that ADP's R^2 over the last 2 years is .0114.

That sounds bad.  Is that bad?

[RDCanecutter 26452]

On 7/6/2023 at 7:09 AM, Gengs1 said:

Probably already posted but this is great ad

 

I'd take an AI-generated Joe Biden over whatever the Violent Clown Brigade rallies behind.

Hell, I'd take an old shoe. I'm talkin an abandoned pair-less single 1970s buckskin hippy shoe left out in the rain so the leather turned into stiff cardboard, and the crepe sole is all unglued and flapping open at the toe, so it'd trip you if you walked in it but you can't because you only have one. You can't even convert it into a dog chewtoy because you're afraid it would poison the dog. That shoe. That's who I'd vote for. Because that shoe wouldn't make anything worse.