Joe Biden 2023: The Dark Brandon Rises

[Bozo_Casanova 26,232]

2 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

So Biden is a robut?

[Bullneck 18,976]

Dark Brandon wins again:

General Motors Reaches Tentative Agreement With UAW, Potentially Ending 6-Week Strike

General Motors and the United Auto Workers union have reached a tentative contract agreement that could end a six-week-old strike against Detroit automakers.

TOM KRISHER and FRANK BAJAK

[Captainant 27,311]

31 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Dark Brandon wins again:

General Motors Reaches Tentative Agreement With UAW, Potentially Ending 6-Week Strike

General Motors and the United Auto Workers union have reached a tentative contract agreement that could end a six-week-old strike against Detroit automakers.

TOM KRISHER and FRANK BAJAK

Thank god, last time Biden broke a strike in favor of the corporations we had a massive fucking toxic train derailment a couple weeks later

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,825]

8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Biden signing an executive order about AI, including asking Congress to pass data privacy legislation for Americans (and MAGA will be like WHY DOES BIDEN WANT TO PROTECT MY PRIVACY WHAT IS HE HIDING, FUCK HIM I'M GOING TO PUT ALL OF MY INFORMATION ONLINE AND START WITH MY CREDIT CARDS)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/10/30/fact-sheet-president-biden-issues-executive-order-on-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-artificial-intelligence/

I quite like this idea. We have already proven ourselves unready for the internet. People, by and large, sure as shit cannot handle AI. Seems, at least to some degree, this blunts the potential for misuse. 

7 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

Great, thanks for libbing up AI

I can't tell anymore but I do hope that is satire

[Anastasis 23,375]

 

21 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Mid to upper middle class. People need to divorce themselves from the idea that middle income equals middle class. You are confusing two very different distributions. The American middle class has been defined by a few different aspects of lifestyle: 1) Attainable home ownership; 2) Security in the basic necessities of life; 3) Educational opportunity; 4) Leisure time; 5) Retirement security. There are some other aspects for sure, but I think those are pretty core. The reality is that middle income is not able to support those aspects in the US. It use to be, and not too long ago. But the disconnect between the income distributions and "class" segmentation is apparent at this point and only growing. But we can fix this. We just need more aircraft carrier groups on deployment. 

 

20 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Except those aren’t middle class anymore. Middle income IS middle class. We’ve just destroyed the lifestyle we once associated with the middle class to fund asset bubbles. 

 

10 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

 

You of all people should know I’m not, but since I separated them by implication I would have expected that to tip you off.

Let me restate to make the point clear: the use of monetary and fiscal policy but especially the tax code to support and inflate asset values for top earners had the effect of taking the middle class “lifestyle” out of reach for the middle income people. There is still a middle class, it is simply less financially secure and affluent than it was a generation ago. 

Other than the bolded, which is kinda the main point of what I was responding to, I think that we are in basic agreement. 

[StassneyHorn 6,534]

A challenger emerges

Gavin Newsom Officially Announces He Is Running for President By Steamrolling and then Spanking A Little Chinese Kid on the Ass

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3491380/gavin-newsom-officially-announces-he-is-running-for-president-by-steamrolling-and-then-spanking-a-little-chinese-kid-on-the-ass

[SubliminalHorn 6,648]

Gavin no

[Js1 85,056]

Barstool is so fucking dumb. Why does it even exist?

[F250 28,659]

16 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Barstool is so fucking dumb. Why does it even exist?

Sports fan culture, young bros and titties.

 

[StassneyHorn 6,534]

No it’s funny to anyone who isn’t criminally online 

[elfenix 34,168]

i first heard of barstool back when it was jenna marbles making videos about how much makeup she puts on.  several years go by and the founder is half a billionaire. 

Edited October 31, 2023 by elfenix

[StassneyHorn 6,534]

My OU date and a friend’s date were smokeshows of the day back in Oct 2010 and had pics of our coolers online, before the site become AnTi-WoMeN. Hearing people talk about it now is painful. Like conservatives not knowing Babylon Bee isnt real or the libruls screaming at them for not knowing it’s fake.

 

[G650 13,990]

Barstool was dumb as fuck back then and it's dumb as shit now. Dave Portnoy is high in the running for most useless cunt in America.

['stache 21,743]

On 10/29/2023 at 10:16 AM, Incredulity said:

Counterpoint:

let the asset bubble triple the value of my primary residence.  Millionaire cheat code unlocked.  
 

Home prices in 20 years have gone from elevated to shocking to completely absurd.  

 

In all seriousness the reality of being a millionaire vs. the perception of the word in society at the moment is completely disconnected.  The Biden billionaire wealth tax proposal that kicked in at 100 million is of the same disconnect.
 

TLDR your money isn’t worth what it used to.

Im sure you feel the same way about healthcare and higher education and will vote for people willing to move us towards those changes. Or not because gays and fetuses or something.

[Js1 85,056]

2 hours ago, G650 said:

Barstool was dumb as fuck back then and it's dumb as shit now. Dave Portnoy is high in the running for most useless cunt in America.

[Incredulity 11,532]

1 hour ago, 'stache said:

Im sure you feel the same way about healthcare and higher education and will vote for people willing to move us towards those changes

I absolutely think healthcare and higher education are a clusterfuck in this country.

I would guess we are diametrically opposed to how to even attempt to fix them.

It isn't single payer and "free" college.

['stache 21,743]

Lol, I'm sure your people in the House will get right on those fixes as soon as they resolve drag queen storytime and Hunter's dong. 

[Incredulity 11,532]

12 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Lol, I'm sure your people in the House will get right on those fixes as soon as they resolve drag queen storytime and Hunter's dong. 

which party controlled House, Senate and Presidency at the same time most recently....

 

yet still no single payer... curious?

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20,342]

4 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

which party controlled House, Senate and Presidency at the same time most recently....

 

yet still no single payer... curious?

You're not curious. If you were, you'd know that Republicans have literally no interest in doing anything when it comes to government, with the exception of lining their pockets.

['stache 21,743]

1 minute ago, Incredulity said:

which party controlled House, Senate and Presidency at the same time most recently....

 

yet still no single payer... curious?

You know the answer. Despite every fox news anchor calling every democrat a leftist loon the vast majority of the party is still pretty conservative, barely left of center. Only a handful are brave enough to push for what works in just about every prosperous first world countries with high qualities of life. Barely left of center or people who continue to lie about elections to please a guy facing multiple indictments who openly supports enemy regimes? Choice is pretty simple.

[Horn Dog 9,644]

1 minute ago, 'stache said:

You know the answer. Despite every fox news anchor calling every democrat a leftist loon the vast majority of the party is still pretty conservative, barely left of center. Only a handful are brave enough to push for what works in just about every prosperous first world countries with high qualities of life. Barely left of center or people who continue to lie about elections to please a guy facing multiple indictments who openly supports enemy regimes? Choice is pretty simple.

In addition, lets continue to pretend that having less than 60 reliable votes in the Senate means jack shit with regard to "controlling it" with respect to passing legislation. 

[Js1 85,056]

I will never understand why y’all engage with him. Just let him shout himself hoarse like 8badmofo 

[Incredulity 11,532]

22 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I will never understand why y’all engage with him. Just let him shout himself hoarse like 8badmofo 

[StassneyHorn 6,534]

8 hours ago, G650 said:

Barstool was dumb as fuck back then and it's dumb as shit now. Dave Portnoy is high in the running for most useless cunt in America.

Naw

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,825]

16 hours ago, elfenix said:

i first heard of barstool back when it was jenna marbles making videos about how much makeup she puts on.  several years go by and the founder is half a billionaire. 

is his other half a poor?

[UpperWestside 6,104]

48 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

is his other half a poor?

Yes and that half travels the country giving terrible reviews on pizza. I think Long Islanders are going to murder him for giving a bad review to the pizza out east.

[YGIFS 19,449]

2 hours ago, Incredulity said:

which party controlled House, Senate and Presidency at the same time most recently....

 

yet still no single payer... curious?

I fucking hate my insurance and am still not sold on single payer.  I don't know what the solution is to this day and I've been writing papers on it since I was in fucking high school 30 years ago.  

However, do try and remember how many attempts the Republican Party squandered to correct the Affordable Care Act (which itself is woefully flawed not because of it's inability to come up with a public option, but because it just shifted money around so we all felt we were getting more affordable care with lower monthly premiums---but ended up with markedly higher deductibles and out-of-pocket maximums).  FDR is actually to blame for it all, as irony would have it.  

Also, remember just like repealing ObamaCare and Draining the Swamp and Making America Great...this was the leadership slate:

2017-2019:  House-MAGA, Senate-MAGA, Oval-MAGA, SCOTUS-MAGA

2019-2021:  House-Democrat, Senate-MAGA, Oval-MAGA, SCOTUS-MAGA

That's 87.5% control of our federal government by MAGA for 4 solid years.  Not much to show for it except the foundation of a Civil War that I for one cannot fucking wait for because it's dipshit v. dipshit while I sit on a beach earning 20%.  

[Incredulity 11,532]

Oh, I Understand.  
 

O’care was never even implemented because Barack kept delaying and deleting the mechanisms that were supposed to increase the size of the insurance pool.  Than the R’s chopped it up even more.  So no one could every know if it could have worked.

MAGA would have repealed it but Trump couldn’t keep his fucking mouth shut about McCain so he torpedoed the repeal.  I don’t have any idea what repeal +1 would have looked like, I’m sure it would’ve been a screwing.

There isn’t enough money to afford the leftists pipe dream universal healthcare.   Yes we should have a safety net, but it shouldn’t include 5 surgeries to cut off the diabetic limbs of Cletus because he won’t stop eating Ring Dings.
 

 IMPO markets(and yes healthcare services need to be a market) function best with robust competition for revenues.  That is so far gone from the  bastardized(read heavy gov’t involvement) market we have now.

[StassneyHorn 6,534]

Joey B is doing it again with gas prices, all during a war in the Middle East. Saving us from Texas oilmen

https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=TX

[Incredulity 11,532]

drill baby drill?

[Guest]

[jimmyjazz 45,513]

53 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

drill baby drill?

Yeah, that's a stupid take.  Well done.

[Hornius Emeritus 12,403]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, that's a stupid take.  Well done.

I don't think it's a stupid take. U.S. oil production just reached an all-time high and looks like it's about to hit 13 million gallons per day. What's amazing is that the rig count is so (relatively) low --- 625.  That's down 143 rigs from last year at this time.

[Neonmoon 38,127]

2 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

I don't think it's a stupid take. U.S. oil production just reached an all-time high and looks like it's about to hit 13 million gallons per day. What's amazing is that the rig count is so (relatively) low --- 625.  That's down 143 rigs from last year at this time.

I'm guessing lots of former shut-in wells coming online, DUCs being completed, and of course longer laterals means less rigs needed

[Captainant 27,311]

5 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

I don't think it's a stupid take. U.S. oil production just reached an all-time high and looks like it's about to hit 13 million gallons per day. What's amazing is that the rig count is so (relatively) low --- 625.  That's down 143 rigs from last year at this time.

completions be poppin, dawg

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

Y’all are making me miss my old job.

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You can show an efficient decline curve to a Texan LP, and they'd still find a way to blame its increased production on Biden.  

Gold, Silver, Sugar, Coffee.  All globally traded commodities traded at the whims of markets, currencies, and logistical options.

But Oil?  Not supply and demand and their baked in market efficiencies, not OPEC, not Putin, just the early morning futures trading whimsies of one senile old man in a cordoned off part of Maryland.  

Edited November 1, 2023 by YGIFS

[Captainant 27,311]

18 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

Has anyone read this Executive Order that is in tech, AI or otherwise that has a perspective? Curious to hear inputs. From some analysis I read, this document is the work of aggregating policy inputs from an extended committee of interested constituencies while also navigating the law — literally what is it that can be done to throttle artificial intelligence legally without passing any new laws that might throttle artificial intelligence. There is no clear owner of this document. There is no leading science consensus or direction that we can discern. It is impossible to separate out the document from the process and approach used to “govern” AI innovation. Govern is quoted because it is the word used in the EO. This is so much less a document of what should be done with the potential of technology than it is a document pushing the limits of what can be done legally to slow innovation.

Read this interesting blog post: https://hardcoresoftware.learningbyshipping.com/p/211-regulating-ai-by-executive-order

 

I still need to read this doc - I'm an ML practitioner and specialist in my day job, and 100% of my customers are using it in their solutions. I took a quick glance and was gruntled to see an emphasis on personal privacy and data rights, but don't know if there was anything of substance

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1 hour ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

I don't think it's a stupid take. U.S. oil production just reached an all-time high and looks like it's about to hit 13 million gallons per day. What's amazing is that the rig count is so (relatively) low --- 625.  That's down 143 rigs from last year at this time.

So US oil production is at an all time high and you don't think it's stupid to infer that Biden is holding it back?

[Incredulity 11,532]

3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, that's a stupid take.  Well done.

You're just so incredibly bright.   impressive.

 

[StassneyHorn 6,534]

What did Rex do to get himself banned? All the Porterhouse posts are now under Guest in the “O&G we’re all just guessing” thread in 6th street. Do they have spitcups in Purgatory or have they gone carbon neutral?

[bolverk 29,360]

12 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

What did Rex do to get himself banned? All the Porterhouse posts are now under Guest in the “O&G we’re all just guessing” thread in 6th street. Do they have spitcups in Purgatory or have they gone carbon neutral?

I think it's in the last few pages of the CR is a terrible place thread where he got pissed off by getting repeatedly negged by Penelope, so he quit the site and requested all his posts be deleted. 

[elfenix 34,168]

36 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

What did Rex do to get himself banned? All the Porterhouse posts are now under Guest in the “O&G we’re all just guessing” thread in 6th street. Do they have spitcups in Purgatory or have they gone carbon neutral?

@YGIFS

[YGIFS 19,449]

I didn’t do anything to make him leave.  Don’t look at me.  I think he just said he was done with this place for a while.  

[elfenix 34,168]

25 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

I didn’t do anything to make him leave.  Don’t look at me.  I think he just said he was done with this place for a while.  

i wanted to know if there were spitcups

[YGIFS 19,449]

Wouldn’t know.  Was hanging with South Austin’s mom the whole time.  That Saint ain’t got no need for a spitcup the way her oral game be strong.  

[Biff Tannen 45,477]

1 hour ago, bolverk said:

I think it's in the last few pages of the CR is a terrible place thread where he got pissed off by getting repeatedly negged by Penelope, so he quit the site and requested all his posts be deleted. 

Yeah he self-banninated. 

[gmr548 16,463]

It's not even hard to look up.  The top 11.9% of American households have income of $200K or higher.  2022 data:

 

Mid to upper middle class. People need to divorce themselves from the idea that middle income equals middle class. You are confusing two very different distributions. The American middle class has been defined by a few different aspects of lifestyle: 1) Attainable home ownership; 2) Security in the basic necessities of life; 3) Educational opportunity; 4) Leisure time; 5) Retirement security. There are some other aspects for sure, but I think those are pretty core. The reality is that middle income is not able to support those aspects in the US. It use to be, and not too long ago. But the disconnect between the income distributions and "class" segmentation is apparent at this point and only growing. But we can fix this. We just need more aircraft carrier groups on deployment. 

Yeah it comes down to what you define as middle class. I think the disconnect is that what the ideal of American middle class looks like in people’s minds - certainly for the older posters who are usually making those statements - is really the realm of the top third or quartile at this point.

$200k HH income is what it takes to afford a “middle class” lifestyle with a couple kids including homeownership, kids’ activities, solid retirement/educational savings, a few vacations a year, etc. in some areas. That’s a high estimate for Texas - if you have financial problems at that income level here then that’s on you - but also $200k HHI isn’t “I don’t think about money at all” type wealthy in Texas like it used to be.

[mdmost 42,775]

Cool cool. Yes, give Michigan to Trump. That will help Muslims everywhere.

https://apnews.com/article/biden-michigan-arab-american-reelection-bb86bc0059a6ea33fee8a1ec1b0ac743

[Js1 85,056]

Joe Biden actually has a positive rating on his handling of Israel/Palestine, per lastest polling.