Joe Biden 2023: The Dark Brandon Rises

[Biff Tannen 45,671]

1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

 

 

You can keep pushing the "Biden is senile" thing all you want, but you are convincing no one except other morons.

[Red Five 40,849]

Another classic from the Bee. It's as if the Onion was taken over by morons.

[Incredulity 11,661]

5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

You can keep pushing the "Biden is senile" thing all you want, but you are convincing no one except other morons.

Millennial yells at Babylon Bee

[jimmyjazz 45,896]

Just now, Incredulity said:

Millennial yells at Babylon Bee

Moron links Babylon Bee.

[elfenix 34,228]

times new roman sucks.  it's an adaptation of an old newspaper font for shitty 1990s screens and printers.  our screens are much higher resolution and damn near no one prints anything anymore. 

[Incredulity 11,661]

27 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Moron links Babylon Bee.

Potshoting bitchass bitchasses

[Biff Tannen 45,671]

[Js1 85,300]

54 minutes ago, elfenix said:

times new roman sucks.  it's an adaptation of an old newspaper font for shitty 1990s screens and printers.  our screens are much higher resolution and damn near no one prints anything anymore. 

I'm in a constant battle with my firm to change everything from TNR to Calibri.

No one listens to me though

[Anastasis 23,466]

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I'm in a constant battle with my firm to change everything from TNR to Calibri.

No one listens to me though

Where y'all at on double sentence spacing. Lawyers in my experience have a really hard time letting that one go. 

[elfenix 34,228]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

Where y'all at on double sentence spacing. Lawyers in my experience have a really hard time letting that one go. 

some courts have formatting and font requirements in the local rules which dictate what you do in pleadings.  that might get picked up into everything else.  for letters i typically go with 1.15 or so.  full on double space looks kinda weird to me. 

[Js1 85,300]

6 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Where y'all at on double sentence spacing. Lawyers in my experience have a really hard time letting that one go. 

Took me a long time to let go of 2 spaces after a period. 

[Anastasis 23,466]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Took me a long time to let go of 2 spaces after a period. 

Yeah, I still fuck up from time to time. Muscle memory from middle school typing class can be a real bitch to break. It is a battle worth fighting though.  

[Anastasis 23,466]

6 minutes ago, elfenix said:

some courts have formatting and font requirements in the local rules which dictate what you do in pleadings.  that might get picked up into everything else.  for letters i typically go with 1.15 or so.  full on double space looks kinda weird to me. 

Sentence spacing, not line spacing. I agree that full on double is fucking weird. 1.15 minimum, but usually 1.5. 

[elfenix 34,228]

oh i'm double tapping the spacebar even right now.  just mechanical.  right ring finger moving down one row gets the right thumb moving twice. 

[Anastasis 23,466]

2 minutes ago, elfenix said:

oh i'm double tapping the spacebar even right now.  just mechanical.  right ring finger moving down one row gets the right thumb moving twice. 

Think of how much time you have wasted in your life executing that unnecessary space. 

[jimmyjazz 45,896]

You can pry my double spacing right thumb off my cold dead right hand.

[elfenix 34,228]

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Think of how much time you have wasted in your life executing that unnecessary space. 

it's gotta be in the dozens of minutes by now

[CooterBrown 18,005]

Team double space and Oxford comma.

[Neonmoon 38,129]

[formermav43 4,606]

1 hour ago, CooterBrown said:

Team double space and Oxford comma.

One of those things is not like the other.

[elfenix 34,228]

brits don't use it, so why is it called the oxford comma?

[HamsterHookah 112]

5 hours ago, elfenix said:

times new roman sucks.  it's an adaptation of an old newspaper font for shitty 1990s screens and printers.  our screens are much higher resolution and damn near no one prints anything anymore. 

Wrong. TNR, double spaced, and 12 font is the only acceptable way.

Arial, Calibri, etc. are all evil

[elfenix 34,228]

1 minute ago, HamsterHookah said:

Wrong. TNR, double spaced, and 12 font is the only acceptable way.

Arial, Calibri, etc. are all evil

[Anastasis 23,466]

30 minutes ago, HamsterHookah said:

Wrong. TNR, double spaced, and 12 font is the only acceptable way.

Arial, Calibri, etc. are all evil

The strangest part of that State Department memo is the 14 pt requirement.  Is that a real thing?  Are they being written by children trying to hit a page count on their submission?

I would laugh my ass off at anyone that sent a serious document to me with 14 pt font. 

[TwiceHorn 31,444]

On 1/13/2023 at 7:44 PM, Fudge Nuggets said:

It's so cool that Garland took three months to appoint Jack Smith as special counsel in the dotard case, yet he busts out a special counsel in the Biden case within a week of the news breaking.

Fuckhead.

There's a reason for that.  

With Trump the private citizen, there was no conflict of interest.  When he announced his candidacy, there became a conflict of interest and the Special Counsel was appointed.

With Biden, there is an automatic conflict of interest as he at least nominally controls the DOJ.

People, including Trump, seem to think that a Special Counsel is some kind of Super Grand Inquisitor.

They are not.  They are appointed when the DOJ/executive branch has a conflict of interest in an investigation or prosecution.

In the high-profile matters, at least, they get a lot of attention for rather obvious reasons, and, they must be able to conduct every aspect of an investigation or prosecution outside the normal chain of command of the DOJ, so they're almost always highly experienced as both "line prosecutors" and "Main Justice" type policy/admin wonks.  The AG doesn't want them running back to DC looking for approval or advice on how to proceed.

Edited January 19, 2023 by TwiceHorn

[TwiceHorn 31,444]

43 minutes ago, HamsterHookah said:

Wrong. TNR, double spaced, and 12 font is the only acceptable way.

Arial, Calibri, etc. are all evil

Yeah, those fonts suck shit.

But there are much better serif fonts than TNR, namely the Century family, Garamond family, and others.  El fenix is correct that TNR is a bastard newspaper font adapted for "display" in narrow newspaper columns.

I still double space after periods, but wp corrects it.  Not after colons, however.

Edited January 19, 2023 by TwiceHorn

[TwiceHorn 31,444]

On 1/15/2023 at 8:57 AM, Red Five said:

I guess my question is, why were classified documents in a position to get boxed up with all the other shit? Is it that common to have them lying around everywhere?

Apparently, it is.  Once classified material reaches the White House, which is far outside its normal environs, it is a free-for-all.

 

[HamsterHookah 112]

9 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah, those fonts suck shit.

But there are much better serif fonts than TNR, namely the Century family, Garamond family, and others.  El fenix is correct that TNR is a bastard newspaper font adapted for "display" in narrow newspaper columns.

I still double space after periods, but wp corrects it.  Not after colons, however.

Nope. TNR is the standard in my narrow view. Also double space refers to the lines, not two spaces after a period.

17 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

The strangest part of that State Department memo is the 14 pt requirement.  Is that a real thing?  Are they being written by children trying to hit a page count on their submission?

I would laugh my ass off at anyone that sent a serious document to me with 14 pt font. 

Same. Automatic disqualification of whatever it is they are submitting for.

[TwiceHorn 31,444]

5 minutes ago, HamsterHookah said:

Nope. TNR is the standard in my narrow view. Also double space refers to the lines, not two spaces after a period.

Same. Automatic disqualification of whatever it is they are submitting for.

14pt is a common requirement in court documents, so it makes sense that other governmental units would do it.

Calibri, however, don't make no sense at all.

[BearSchlong 8,083]

From what I can tell, the 14 point guideline is to maximize accessibility for the other-abled.

[elfenix 34,228]

old people need big print

[atomheartbevo 89,639]

6 minutes ago, elfenix said:

old people need big print

No we don't.  

11 hours ago, Anastasis said:

And more importantly, what is the state departments position on double sentence spacing?

7 hours ago, Js1 said:

Took me a long time to let go of 2 spaces after a period. 

['stache 21,801]

Y’all still using typewriters or something? The only reason we used two spaces after a period was that monospaced typewriters made sentence flow look awkward with the period equidistance between sentences if you didn’t use two spaces. Word processors space the periods better and actually looks weird as hell if there’s a huge two space word processor gap. There’s not a single reputable style guide that will tell you to use two spaces. Even back then it wasn’t a hard style rule just mostly something people adopted to make the sentence breaks easier to identify. There’s no valid basis to insist on two spaces anymore, only nostalgia and hard headed olds “that’s how I learned it consarnit and I ain’t ever gonna change!”

TLDR: Two spacers are unequivocally wrong.

 

Edited January 19, 2023 by 'stache

[DigglerontheHoof 21,184]

I will never get font passion.  So fucking weird.

[horn4life 3,760]

3 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Y’all still using typewriters or something? The only reason we used two spaces after a period was that monospaced typewriters made sentence flow look awkward with the period equidistance between sentences if you didn’t use two spaces. Word processors space the periods better and actually looks weird as hell if there’s a huge two space word processor gap. There’s not a single reputable style guide that will tell you to use two spaces. Even back then it wasn’t a hard style rule just mostly something people adopted to make the sentence breaks easier to identify. There’s no valid basis to insist on two spaces anymore, only nostalgia and hard headed olds “that’s how I learned it consarnit and I ain’t ever gonna change!”

TLDR: Two spacers are unequivocally wrong.

 

Fuck.  You! 😉

[Bookman 4,638]

10 hours ago, HamsterHookah said:

Wrong. TNR, double spaced, and 12 font is the only acceptable way.

Arial, Calibri, etc. are all evil

This is true.

If you're going to use Calibri, why not go full-retard and use Comic Sans?

[troph 24,781]

I like the two spaces for scanning a legal doc. Run on sentences everywhere, nice to have a hole in the doc showing where the sentence ends. Other than that I don’t really care. But 14 pt font as a standard would be incredible. I’m glad Biden is pushing it through Congress. Fuck readers.

Edited January 19, 2023 by troph

[Anastasis 23,466]

1 hour ago, 'stache said:

Y’all still using typewriters or something? The only reason we used two spaces after a period was that monospaced typewriters made sentence flow look awkward with the period equidistance between sentences if you didn’t use two spaces. Word processors space the periods better and actually looks weird as hell if there’s a huge two space word processor gap. There’s not a single reputable style guide that will tell you to use two spaces. Even back then it wasn’t a hard style rule just mostly something people adopted to make the sentence breaks easier to identify. There’s no valid basis to insist on two spaces anymore, only nostalgia and hard headed olds “that’s how I learned it consarnit and I ain’t ever gonna change!”

TLDR: Two spacers are unequivocally wrong.

 

[Bookman 4,638]

I switched to two spaces back in 2010 or so. I promise it will objectively make your legal documents look much more professional.

[Anastasis 23,466]

10 minutes ago, Bookman said:

I switched to two spaces back in 2010 or so. I promise it will objectively make it known that you are an old.

Fify. 

[WBT 20,561]

font talk not going away

[formermav43 4,606]

19 minutes ago, Bookman said:

I switched to two spaces back in 2010 or so. I promise it will objectively make your legal documents look much more professional.

I switched to using a quill and ink bottle for the same reason.

[Hornius Emeritus 12,456]

12 hours ago, HamsterHookah said:

Wrong. TNR, double spaced, and 12 font is the only acceptable way.

Arial, Calibri, etc. are all evil

What do you think about Georgia?

['stache 21,801]

18 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

I switched to using a quill and ink bottle for the same reason.

And a lot of Latin. Two spaces and a lot of Latin is an obvious tipoff that you're dealing with a jurist over or approaching 70.

[sidis 9,825]

impressive recruiting board-level inconsequential tangent game in this thread.  very impressive.

[Red Five 40,849]

[Bateshorn 9,927]

18 hours ago, Red Five said:

Another classic from the Bee. It's as if the Onion was taken over by morons.

The Bee has had exactly 1 good headline:

https://babylonbee.com/news/loud-cheering-heard-from-lockheed-martin-board-room

 

[Js1 85,300]

22 minutes ago, sidis said:

impressive recruiting board-level inconsequential tangent game in this thread.  very impressive.

Silly season (offseason) 

[elfenix 34,228]

1 hour ago, troph said:

I like the two spaces for scanning a legal doc. Run on sentences everywhere, nice to have a hole in the doc showing where the sentence ends. Other than that I don’t really care. But 14 pt font as a standard would be incredible. I’m glad Biden is pushing it through Congress. Fuck readers.

my god the run on sentences.  so many lines, why is there only one period?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]