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Joe drops in to lay his old wrinkly nuts on Marge's ape-like chin. x-post from her dumb thread  

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Just want to give a shout out to Dark Brandon The remainder of my wife's student loans were forgiven today She/we have been paying on them for 20 plus years We are now 100% debt free

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On 12/23/2023 at 2:27 AM, atomheartbevo said:

Counterpoint: How many foreign companies that were considered "institutions" in their country-of-origin have been bought by American companies?

It's not like it's something that is going to be picked up and moved to Japan.

With that said, I think the Haier/GE stuff is GE Appliances, so I'm not too concerned about that versus US Steel, which could be seen as a national security issue.  Of course, we sell (or share with) Japan our best military hardware, and again, they can't pick US Steel up and move it, so if something happened between the US and Japan, it's not going anywhere, so it's less of an issue.

Dude, they get US Steel, we get Ohtani and the other dude. We’re coming out way ahead in this. 

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Almost 10 million workers in 22 states will get raises on January 1. See where wages are rising.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/minimum-wage-increase-january-1-2024-see-the-states/

 

  • Alaska: $11.73
  • Arizona: $14.35
  • California: $16
  • Colorado: $14.42
  • Connecticut: $15.69
  • Delaware: $13.25
  • Hawaii: $14
  • Illinois: $14
  • Maine: $14.15
  • Maryland: $15
  • Michigan: $10.33
  • Minnesota: $10.85
  • Missouri: $12.30
  • Montana: $10.30
  • Nebraska: $12
  • New Jersey: $15.13
  • New York: $16
  • Ohio: $10.45
  • Rhode Island: $14
  • South Dakota: $11.20
  • Vermont: $13.67
  • Washington: $16.28 

Denver will have a minimum wage in the $18 range and lots of California cities will be above $16

 

 

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On 12/22/2023 at 12:02 PM, tx 3 putt said:

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Fox News:

Biden and Democrats release millions of felons on the streets and expunge their records.

They now live amongst us without proof of their misdeeds.

This is just further proof of the defund Democrats letting criminals run rampant through or streets. How can we be safe in a Biden world?

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On 12/22/2023 at 3:10 PM, 'stache said:

Ugh, social media doing its thing to guarantee a backlash and help the orange menace. This applies only in D.C. and the extraordinarily rare situation of a federal charge of simple possession. The D.C. part is significant, the rest isn't. He can't pardon for state crimes. The youths are gonna figure that out and blame him for not pardoning them too without considering that he doesn't have the authority. 

Not to mention, all those crimes are misdemeanors.

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On 12/22/2023 at 3:12 PM, Biff Tannen said:

 

My issue is that they may change the company culture so much that American steel workers may bail and go find other work. Watch the documentary American Factory on Netflix.  It was China in that instance, but if the Japanese working culture is anything similar, I foresee messiness. 

 

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Japan, Inc. has learned the Asian/American lessons that China, Inc. and Taiwan, Inc. have not learned.  Thousands of Toyota and Honda American auto workers are just fine.

In other words, to paraphrase PJ O'Rourke, the Japanese do not require American workers to pluck their lunch from a fish tank or croon the corporate anthem while doing morning calisthenics.

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27 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

2) Gen Z has an obsession with "Vibes" as a metric, as nebulous as that term is. Read something about how they should consider vibes for a job: https://nypost.com/2023/11/18/lifestyle/gen-z-workers-say-they-should-be-hired-for-their-personality/

I'm taking that with a GIANT grain of salt.  I could see how someone's personality would help them get a job of course, but the idea that someone would get a job and not do any work and just provide workplace culture is dumb as shit and I don't believe any company would subscribe to that either.

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1 hour ago, BeardIP said:

Between this ^^

And the conversation we were having last week about how the economy is doing awesome but people don't feel like it is, I read two things that were interesting and sort of colored in some of the gaps I had and the theme is "Vibes".

1) There is now a name to the phenomenon about the factual and nominal economy doing well in charts but people not feeling it or perceiving it to be good in their practical life: it's called "The Vibecession": https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-12-07/the-ghost-of-vibecessions-past-is-haunting-our-holidays-lpvrkrnp?sref=KkPzpZvz

2) Gen Z has an obsession with "Vibes" as a metric, as nebulous as that term is. Read something about how they should consider vibes for a job: https://nypost.com/2023/11/18/lifestyle/gen-z-workers-say-they-should-be-hired-for-their-personality/

I mean, employers are still listing "Graduate Degree Preferred" for jobs and not stating the starting salary which usually ends up being $30K or $40K. The job market for new entrants still sucks shit, and big employers are still complete assholes saving most of the profits for the executives and shareholders and giving Jelly of the Month certificates as holiday bonuses. Housing is still stupid expensive and homeownership is out of reach for a bunch of people in their 20's. "The economy" and the stock market rarely is great for the younger generations. There's lots of chatter about fixing the housing, education, and healthcare markets, but its not gotten much better. 

To me, the bigger problem is that John Yokel thinks its great when their favorite player (i.e., republican politician) is in office and Forbes declares the economy great, and doesn't care even a little bit if they are actually benefitting (since at least 1980 they're not). Left leaning youths see that things are terrible for them and not getting better and don't treat politics like a spectator sport. I don't blame them for their perceptions based on lived realities. It's a major problem for Democrats. A bunch of them talk about fixing the problems, but only the far left flank like AOC etc. are proposing actual solutions. Mainstream democrats are still scared to death to raise taxes or fund real policies to fix the issues. Student loan relief was about the boldest proposition and the bought and paid for scotus shot it down.

It's unfortunate, but the dems really do have to rely right now on trump and friends being truly terrible. I hope the youths will at least vote to avoid things being demonstrably worse letting true fascists run the country. But if the dems really want the youth vote we need more progressive candidates to win elections, at least in Congress. I doubt the country is ready to give a true progressive a legitimate shot at the white house, but we need more than a "squad" of a handful of congresspersons to really press for the needed changes. 

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52 minutes ago, 'stache said:

homeownership is out of reach for a bunch of people in their 20's.

Do you recall a time when this wasn't the case?

In the olden days, young couples had to scrimp and save for a decade or more, absent a gift from the parents, just to qualify for a mortgage (typically 20% down).  There is no magic right to homeownership.

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I mean, employers are still listing "Graduate Degree Preferred" for jobs and not stating the starting salary which usually ends up being $30K or $40K. The job market for new entrants still sucks shit, and big employers are still complete assholes saving most of the profits for the executives and shareholders and giving Jelly of the Month certificates as holiday bonuses. Housing is still stupid expensive and homeownership is out of reach for a bunch of people in their 20's. "The economy" and the stock market rarely is great for the younger generations. There's lots of chatter about fixing the housing, education, and healthcare markets, but its not gotten much better. 

To me, the bigger problem is that John Yokel thinks its great when their favorite player (i.e., republican politician) is in office and Forbes declares the economy great, and doesn't care even a little bit if they are actually benefitting (since at least 1980 they're not). Left leaning youths see that things are terrible for them and not getting better and don't treat politics like a spectator sport. I don't blame them for their perceptions based on lived realities. It's a major problem for Democrats. A bunch of them talk about fixing the problems, but only the far left flank like AOC etc. are proposing actual solutions. Mainstream democrats are still scared to death to raise taxes or fund real policies to fix the issues. Student loan relief was about the boldest proposition and the bought and paid for scotus shot it down.

It's unfortunate, but the dems really do have to rely right now on trump and friends being truly terrible. I hope the youths will at least vote to avoid things being demonstrably worse letting true fascists run the country. But if the dems really want the youth vote we need more progressive candidates to win elections, at least in Congress. I doubt the country is ready to give a true progressive a legitimate shot at the white house, but we need more than a "squad" of a handful of congresspersons to really press for the needed changes. 

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Do you recall a time when this wasn't the case?

In the olden days, young couples had to scrimp and save for a decade or more, absent a gift from the parents, just to qualify for a mortgage (typically 20% down).  There is no magic right to homeownership.

I know quite a few people in my grandparents generation that actually had build their houses.

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Do you recall a time when this wasn't the case?

In the olden days, young couples had to scrimp and save for a decade or more, absent a gift from the parents, just to qualify for a mortgage (typically 20% down).  There is no magic right to homeownership.

My dad bought a house when he was a dispatch call operator for the electric company with a two year degree and a stay-at-home wife. The boomers were able to buy houses with high school diploma jobs and single family incomes. That's not possible anymore unless you're willing to live in the middle of nowhere, and even rural real estate is spiking somewhat. The house I bought in 2008 in a nice Tulsa neighborhood was worth twice as much when I sold it two years ago. Two bedrooms one bath. It's not affordable for people in their 20's making $40K a year.

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My dad bought a house when he was a dispatch call operator for the electric company with a two year degree and a stay-at-home wife. The boomers were able to buy houses with high school diploma jobs and single family incomes. That's not possible anymore unless you're willing to live in the middle of nowhere, and even rural real estate is spiking somewhat. The house I bought in 2008 in a nice Tulsa neighborhood was worth twice as much when I sold it two years ago. Two bedrooms one bath. It's not affordable for people in their 20's making $40K a year.

GenX people that couldn't afford their starter homes until they were past 30.  And then they had 1 hour commutes to work.  I agree that wages haven't kept up with inflation. Homes and education costs have increased more than inflation. It sucks for many of us. I'm in my mid 50s and my best % raises were when I was in my 20s. 

Does each succeeding generation want a prize that they're having it more difficult then the preceding? It was decided in the 60s to stop allowing the next generation to have it easier. It just took a full decades to fully get implemented. 

 

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3 hours ago, BeardIP said:

And to tie it back to the thread-- we are trending more about how things "feel" than how they "are" which helps to explain for me, at least, why the disconnect with the economy

I think the problem is that when you say "the economy", you really mean the stock market. Of which, 50% of stocks are owned by the top 1% of wealthy individuals, and the next 35% is owned by 2-10%.

If you turn off your critical thinking and only use the SP500 as your KPI synthetic for the economy as a whole, I could see why you would think "no, it must be GenZ that's wrong"

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My parents bought a 1100 sf house in Killeen in 1954, on NCO wages.  That house, piece of crap that it is, just sold for $90k.  With renovations over the years, that is$50 something per sf.   But it is still in Killeen, and no gen z wants to live there and commute to Austin.  

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6 minutes ago, Walser said:

Really? I like you guys and everything but we can use differing opinions in here now and then. Or do you just find him/her annoying?

you're defending someone who has been banned countless times and keeps coming back to stir shit with a new username. it's not a dissenting opinion we're trying to get rid of. it's just an asshole

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you're defending someone who has been banned countless times and keeps coming back to stir shit with a new username. it's not a dissenting opinion we're trying to get rid of. it's just an asshole

Ok I was not aware of that. Carry on.

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"So far" being the key words here.

But trying to use a NY Post article to argue "Gee, young people these days focus on feelings more than statistics and evidence" as if this is some sort of new phenomenon is so utterly ridiculously stupid. I still can't decide if he is truly that stupid or just a bad troll. I could be convinced either way.

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18 minutes ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

"So far" being the key words here.

But trying to use a NY Post article to argue "Gee, young people these days focus on feelings more than statistics and evidence" as if this is some sort of new phenomenon is so utterly ridiculously stupid. I still can't decide if he is truly that stupid or just a bad troll. I could be convinced either way.

"a recession is when your neighbor loses his job, a depression is when you lose yours," apparently wasn't coined 70 years ago, gen z just came up with it recently. 

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On 12/27/2023 at 11:32 AM, 'stache said:

My dad bought a house when he was a dispatch call operator for the electric company with a two year degree and a stay-at-home wife. The boomers were able to buy houses with high school diploma jobs and single family incomes. That's not possible anymore unless you're willing to live in the middle of nowhere, and even rural real estate is spiking somewhat. The house I bought in 2008 in a nice Tulsa neighborhood was worth twice as much when I sold it two years ago. Two bedrooms one bath. It's not affordable for people in their 20's making $40K a year.

Pray tell, what was the sf and location (town) of this house your old man bought? 

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Our president, Jobs Biden, is set to begin his contract year as the all time hit leader in job creation, and reigning triple crown king of Stock Exchanges. 

Inflation is returning to a normal rate after irresponsible PPP giveaways, supply chain shortages caused by Trump shutdowns, and “we’re all in this together” greedflation. Dems build the economy and Republicans break them. This is a fact written in textbooks.

Dr. Joe took all the Trump vaccines and put those shots in the arms of every unselfish, responsible American and got us back to work.Trump impishly watched from the corner. Nobody even remembers COVID,  made evident by anger about egg prices.

He gave rising wages to the lowest earners across the country, causing a rising tide for all, and reignited union support in this country for the working class.

He single handedly prevented contagion of US bank failures in Q1 2023. Jeromey our homey Powell has stuck the landing and there isn’t one baby crying.

Joe Biden has ended unemployment in America. We now have a permanently available gig economy to anyone anytime anywhere who needs money. Do not gloss over, there is now no humanly possible way of ever being of not making money. No reason to fact check. He even gave us a booming amateur porn industry for the most mentally weak generation, Z, to eschew work.

Hell, he even had time to create AI and completely avoid any reason for people to pay for higher education.

Thank you Joseph. 4 more years. 

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