50 Texas Sheriffs Attend “Constitutional Sheriff” Training

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Some 50 Texas sheriffs have attended “Constitutional Sheriff”’ training and had it count as required continuing law enforcement training. As best I can tell, the ideology is similar to sovereign citizens. Sheriffs are the “highest true legs authority” and should not enforce federal laws they don’t want to enforce. 
 

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/01/13/constitutional-sheriffs-texas/

 

Of course Ken Paxton is involved.

 

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The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, the key organization fueling the movement, led around a dozen training sessions in Texas in 2020 and 2021. A February 2021 session in The Woodlands drew at least 27 sheriffs or deputies. At an October 2021 session in Mesquite, the keynote speaker was Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, and attendees included state Sen. Bob Hall, R-Edgewood, and former state Sen. Don Huffines, who unsuccessfully challenged Gov. Greg Abbott in the Republican primary for governor. Other attendees have included justices of the peace, police captains and members of the Texas Farm Bureau.

 

[Guest]

I remember in high school in podunk county Texas, Sheriff has a bumper sticker on the cruiser that said "My Gun Protects Your Rights"

Always struck me as odd, even back then.

[Zepol87 9171]

I have a couple family members who are Sheriff's, they are true pieces of shit. That's all I got 

Edited January 14, 2023 by Zepol87

[Scheiss Meister 8399]

Well hell, if the sheriff doesn't have to follow the law, why should anyone else?

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

Well at least I know why Bob didn't also shoot the deputy.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins 2393]

Great. Sheriffs really need their ego booted more than they already are.

[atomheartbevo 89449]

This fucking state.  

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

Nothing new. Nobody batted an eye when a Texas sheriff chased a car across Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama all the way to Atlanta in 1977. 

[Js1 85110]

4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

This fucking state.  

[Gil Bang 25898]

Nothing new. Nobody batted an eye when a Texas sheriff chased a car across Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama all the way to Atlanta in 1977. 

But he was in a goddam high-speed pursuit!



Is McIvor still a sheriff?

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Nothing new. Nobody batted an eye when a Texas sheriff chased a car across Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama all the way to Atlanta in 1977. 

One dude lost his hat...

[TexasHooch 5117]

Glad this has its own thread.  Quoting again my favorite bit from the article about the guy who's pushing this narrative:

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Mack asserts that elected sheriffs are accountable only to their voters, not judges or legislators, even when other branches of government make or interpet the law. In effect, sheriffs can nullify a law by refusing to enforce it. “The federal government, the White House, or Congress do not hire us, they cannot fire us, and they cannot tell us what to do,” he wrote in his 2009 book “The County Sheriff: America’s Last Hope.”

 

[RomaVicta 29794]

I read the title of the thread:

Then I read the content:

[TexPx 2319]

Nice move Grapevine PD

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

11 minutes ago, TexPx said:

Nice move Grapevine PD

 

Nothing but grief for this in the replies. Don’t know if that account usually is interactive, but not a peep from it to defend the tweet. 
 

and as an alum of gms and ghs, 25 years ago, couldn’t be less surprised. 

[Bullneck 18987]

One of those replies, worth sharing.

 

Edited January 15, 2023 by Bullneck

[Gatorubet 30115]

17 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Some 50 Texas sheriffs have attended “Constitutional Sheriff”’ training and had it count as required continuing law enforcement training. As best I can tell, the ideology is similar to sovereign citizens. Sheriffs are the “highest true legs authority” and should not enforce federal laws they don’t want to enforce. 
 

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/01/13/constitutional-sheriffs-texas/

 

Of course Ken Paxton is involved.

 

 

[RDCanecutter 26282]

Which Constitution? US, original Texian, or secret scripture of the Knights of the Golden Circle?

[Willfully Horn 7916]

Used to ride my horse into Grapevine Lake, and swim off its back, so close to home, and all.

[elguapo 4583]

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

Guess what a grapevine cop did after securing his pension?

 

 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13546]

I can't believe supporters of civil asset forfeiture would act in such a way. 

[Celery Man 20886]

They sure suck that government tit though. 

[Neonmoon 38127]

I hate to break it to you, but the same guys who are drawn to Law enforcement are drawn to whites supremacist groups/ “Christian nationalists”. Same feeder stock. 
 

White. Not college educated. American Christian. 

[GhostOfTomJoad 9308]

Yep. There's a Cedar Park Constable's SUV I've noticed over the years. On the back window in 6" white vinyl lettering is "In GOD We Trust." Pretty up front about what you can expect should you have an interaction with him.

[Js1 85110]

2 minutes ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

Yep. There's a Cedar Park Constable's SUV I've noticed over the years. On the back window in 6" white vinyl lettering is "In GOD We Trust." Pretty up front about what you can expect should you have an interaction with him.

Can your defense be “Jesus took the wheel?”

[TexPx 2319]

Nothing but grief for this in the replies. Don’t know if that account usually is interactive, but not a peep from it to defend the tweet. 
 
and as an alum of gms and ghs, 25 years ago, couldn’t be less surprised. 

I saw it first on Jake Kemp of The Ticket’s feed. He caught some shit but did not back down.

Grapevine PD posted a sort of apology on their FB page. They got slammed there too.

[cactusflinthead 27594]

 

The FB post 

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid033Ag2gftsV6FWqGeAu64nD9EaJsmFANRTumexKqeBhnw2bEuKZy837HKU2gcpNcBvl&id=100064507247338

 

Edited January 15, 2023 by cactusflinthead

[aggie08 21434]

Counterargument: FREE PIZZA!!!

 

well, a certificate for free pizza at a later date...but still...PIZZA!

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

If that account thanks/promotes every local business that brings/promises food then I might give them the benefit of the doubt. 
 

 

oh. 

Edited January 15, 2023 by Pato del Muerto

[Neonmoon 38127]

1 hour ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

Yep. There's a Cedar Park Constable's SUV I've noticed over the years. On the back window in 6" white vinyl lettering is "In GOD We Trust." Pretty up front about what you can expect should you have an interaction with him.

To be clear, there is a difference between a actual Christian and an American Christian. An actual Christian spends their time feeding the poor and helping the sick. An American Christian plays with guns, is fascist, and hates the poor/sick 

[C-Man 27058]

[Celery Man 20886]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

To be clear, there is a difference between a actual Christian and an American Christian. An actual Christian spends their time feeding the poor and helping the sick. An American Christian plays with guns, is fascist, and hates the poor/sick 

Until actual Christians start speaking out against the vocal majority, ACAB

[Gil Bang 25898]

Jan. 14 (UPI) -- Days after Illinois passed a law banning assault-style weapons and large-capacity magazines, dozens of county sheriffs say they won't enforce the measure, claiming it is unconstitutional.

Displeasure appears strongest around the Chicago area, where top law enforcement officials in McHenry, DeKalb, Kane, DuPage, La Salle, Grundy, and Kankakee counties have publicly stated they will not enforce the new legislation, WLS-TV reported.

 

[Gatorubet 30115]

1 hour ago, Gil Bang said:

Jan. 14 (UPI) -- Days after Illinois passed a law banning assault-style weapons and large-capacity magazines, dozens of county sheriffs say they won't enforce the measure, claiming it is unconstitutional.

Displeasure appears strongest around the Chicago area, where top law enforcement officials in McHenry, DeKalb, Kane, DuPage, La Salle, Grundy, and Kankakee counties have publicly stated they will not enforce the new legislation, WLS-TV reported.

 

There is always a push-pull between the Rule of Law and sincere civil disobedience when the law promotes evil and injustice like segregation.   How you justify your actions usually depends upon how you feel the issue.  “Law Enforcement” by its very definition should not be the entity refusing to follow the law.

Edited January 15, 2023 by Gatorubet

[TwiceHorn 31283]

On 1/15/2023 at 3:34 PM, Gatorubet said:

There is always a push-pull between the Rule of Law and sincere civil disobedience when the law promotes evil and injustice like segregation.   How you justify your actions usually depends upon how you feel the issue.  “Law Enforcement” by its very definition should not be the entity refusing to follow the law.

Certainly not at the cop level, even the "senior cop" level.

The executive branch is charged with executing the law, and I think some discretion is permissible there, particularly when the legislative branch is sclerotic, and possibly mentally retarded.