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[Fudge Nuggets 19189]

Military vet, strong ties and active in the community via a toy drive, connection with local elementary school... the only unchecked box is boy scout troop leader / church youth group minister.

[Clarence Worley 22]

@956 Worldwide, I assure you this is not an asking for a friend situation or a troll job. I wish I could makeup stories like this.  I would be in a completely different profession and probably writing books on a beach somewhere in the South Pacific for a living.

I am intentional about staying off of social media.  This is an unbelievable situation that I’ve never personally experienced and have to be careful about who I talk to because of the seriousness of the alleged crime.  It may have not been the smartest thing to do but posting anonymously on a message board that I read quite a bit and know there are very knowledgeable posters seemed like the best way to get insights to help me determine the best course of action.

The responses have been very helpful.  Thanks everyone.   

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

Cops cutting corners and lying criminals...twin themes here. 

Decades back I had a temp gig as a mail clerk at British Telecom in Shite Town, England. (Preston) Anyway I had this weird co-worker who always seemed a little off. One time we were alone on the elevator with our little carts of mail and memos and such and out of nowhere he asked me if it was common in America to have one undercover cop come out of nowhere, hand you a healthy-size little sack of cocaine, vanish, and then for a small squad of cops to arrive out of nowhere and arrest you for said cocaine.

He admitted this had happened to him. I told him he was being "stitched up," as they say over there, and a few days later I found out why through the grapevine: dude was strongly suspected of being a chronic flasher of little girls. The cops couldn't get him for that for some reason, so they clownishly set him up to take a serious drug rap. Dunno how it turned out -- my temp gig ended and I moved back to America a few months later, but that story illustrates both sides of the system to me.

[Hate 20107]

All I know is that I’ve had email addresses for over 30 years now and I’ve never been sent a link that I could accidentally click on to see kiddie porn….because I don’t look at kiddie porn. You’re “friend” is lying to you and probably should be in jail.

[Clarence Worley 22]

@MaybeACoordinator, thanks for sharing that story.  Something crossed my mind as well.  Was my friend already on some sort of watchlist based on past search activity or a profile and targeted purposely?

Like @Fudge Nuggets mentioned, he checks most of the boxes.

[Foosters 17842]

I've had the pleasure of representing multiple people charged with this offense. 

If the local police are sending child porn to unsuspecting citizens, then they too are guilty of the crime and could all be arrested. 

Shit, the DAs even have complex procedures for handling, viewing, and marking the evidence that involves multiple clearances and a literal safe room.

[Anastasis 23463]

24 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

He admitted this had happened to him. I told him he was being "stitched up," as they say over there, and a few days later I found out why through the grapevine: dude was strongly suspected of being a chronic flasher of little girls. The cops couldn't get him for that for some reason, so they clownishly set him up to take a serious drug rap. Dunno how it turned out -- my temp gig ended and I moved back to America a few months later, but that story illustrates both sides of the system to me.

Ok. Convinced this is a troll job now. Well done, and for entertainment purposes I hope that you are able to string this thread along for a while. 

[Clarence Worley 22]

@Anastasis, not a troll job.  Will do my best to keep this thread going or other posters can contribute with their stories/experiences.

Just found out this case won’t go to trial for the next 3 - 6 months because of the case backlog.

At the very least, I will report back and let everyone know the outcome of the trial.  Could be eye opening for many of us.  

[closetohumping 17435]

Friend is getting blackmailed or lying.

[Earl Haffler 590]

11 hours ago, Clarence Worley said:

Couldn’t agree with you more @ztejas.  It is why I decided to post here.  Most message boards make you feel dumber after reading posts and replies but SurlyHorns has some of the most thoughtful and intelligent posters that I’ve come across.

I am a class of 2000 graduate btw.  Another big win for the our basketball team!  Hook ‘em!

 

try the CR.  I lost 50 reps last time I went there.

[Dahobbs 17527]

2 minutes ago, Earl Haffler said:

 

try the CR.  I lost 50 reps last time I went there.

Don't post stupid stuff. 

[Clarence Worley 22]

May have just given a lot of people ideas about how they can get even with someone they don’t like.  Just seems unbelievably too easy to ruin someone’s life these days.

Hey Bob, can I borrow your computer or phone for a second.  Downloads some kiddie porn and bam, cops show up at Bob’s door one day and Bob’s arrest and charges are then on public record and there is a digital footprint Bob can’t escape.   

[burntorangebongos 10710]

It wouldn't work because they would have to research what to download to Bob's computer. An woman recently got in trouble doing that to her ex-husband. She is the one in deep shit now. 

[Dnaguy 11920]

 

I feel like somehow this guy is involved with this……

 

 

 

But seriously. This seems like a really stupid thread that was started by someone who wants internet attention for a hot second. I know everyone else see’s the bullshit here but….

1.) No way internet police are phishing rando’s

2.) The internet doesn’t work this way

3.) Dude’s a wounded vet from Iraq? Come on man. Disabled vet turn is a tired trope.

4.) His life is ruined, but his wife’s still around. Wife’s don’t stick around for child porn. And especially if you’re a poor and charged for that. They’re out of there faster than you can click a suspicious link in your inbox. 

5.) I’m just curious if this is all just a weird attention thing by OP or how many pages this goes before he start asking for $.

Edited January 15, 2023 by Dnaguy

[smokebomb 357]

26 minutes ago, burntorangebongos said:

It wouldn't work because they would have to research what to download to Bob's computer. An woman recently got in trouble doing that to her ex-husband. She is the one in deep shit now. 

https://kfor.com/news/local/wife-accomplice-screenshot-857-child-porn-photos-to-frame-husband-before-upcoming-custody-battle/amp/
 

Quote

Police: Wife screenshots child porn to frame husband

Katelyn Ogle/KFOR

8 months ago

GARVIN COUNTY, Okla. (KFOR) – Garvin County authorities say an Oklahoma wife and her accomplice are facing hefty felony charges after taking more than 800 screenshots of child pornography to frame the husband before an upcoming child custody battle.

“It was a big plot, but we unfolded it,” said Garvin County Sheriff Jim Mullet. “I haven’t seen anything this detailed and this so thought out to try to get somebody put away.”

Lacey Hucks, 33, and Angel Moore, 44, allegedly cooked up a plan to put Hucks’ husband behind bars. 

In December, Mullet said the duo scoured the dark web to screen shot 857 pictures of child pornography on the husband’s old phone.

“To take the time to find all these screenshots, you know, it’s very disturbing. Very, very disturbing,” said the sheriff. “This is over the top.”

The goal was to get the husband behind bars so Hucks could win an upcoming child custody battle.

According to court documents, “Angel stated that Lacey drove her to the Wynnewood Police Department to make the report and gave her the phone,” on April 18. 

Moore told police she saw the husband viewing the pornography at his home.

“It was a plan that they said that they rehearsed,” said Sheriff Mullet. “She was never at the house. She never watched him look at a phone.”

Wynnewood Police quickly looped Garvin County deputies into the investigation.

“The wife just came up with this crazy story and it was believable at first,” said the sheriff.

The husband was arrested after the accusation, but was only locked up overnight. Investigators quickly pumped the brakes and connected the dots after no child pornography was found on the husband’s current phone.

Child allegedly slapped during Cinco De Mayo celebration at Oklahoma City park

Moore later confessed to the ruse and told police “she thought she was doing the right thing for Lacey.”

“The husband is upset, obviously,” said the sheriff. “Someone tries to take your life and away from your freedom.”

Moore bonded out of jail while Hucks is sitting in a cell with a $250,000 bond.

“It backfired on them and I’m glad that they were able to be in jail,” said Sheriff Mullet. 

The duo is now facing charges including aggravated possession of child porn, conspiracy to commit a felony, and violation of the computers crimes act.

And I agree with earlier posts - you need to step back & not make this your fight. This is such a horrendous accusation, you have to protect you & your family’s mental well-being first.

Although he might be falsely accused, you have to begin to accept the possibility he is guilty, no matter how much you think you know him. It really sucks since no matter what happens, there will be no winners. 

TLDR: Protect your family first & limit your involvement in his battle. 

[0xdeadbeef 1645]

40 minutes ago, smokebomb said:

https://kfor.com/news/local/wife-accomplice-screenshot-857-child-porn-photos-to-frame-husband-before-upcoming-custody-battle/amp/
 

And I agree with earlier posts - you need to step back & not make this your fight. This is such a horrendous accusation, you have to protect you & your family’s mental well-being first.

Although he might be falsely accused, you have to begin to accept the possibility he is guilty, no matter how much you think you know him. It really sucks since no matter what happens, there will be no winners. 

TLDR: Protect your family first & limit your involvement in his battle. 

Nothing wrong with a little loyalty to a friend to start with, but the accused's story doesn't add up.   smokebomb is 100% correct:  

[Homercles 10205]

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Ok. Convinced this is a troll job now. Well done, and for entertainment purposes I hope that you are able to string this thread along for a while. 

FitLump?

[Clarence Worley 22]

I’m not seeking any attention.  Everything has transpired over the past few days.  I have never dealt with something like this and usually have solutions or have people within my orbit I can go to for advice to figure out the best solution.  

I am usually super careful about who I let into my life and develop personal relationships with.  We have a house in a more rural community and it is impossible to avoid your neighbors.  Being from a big city and having an opportunity to spend more time in a rural community has changed my view on the world in many ways.  This friend of mine is a neighbor and because we see each other almost every day and hang out with them and our other neighbors frequently, it was hard not to develop a close relationship.

My friend and his wife are going to have to move away from the community soon.  There is no way they can go out in public and continue to be active because it is a fairly close knit community.

One of my other friends that is a childhood friend and who we told last night has been doing some research since his head is spinning and couldn’t sleep.  He minored in criminal justice, his stepfather is a retired cop, and he has found some things out.

it is not looking good.  I really do appreciate all of the honest responses.  

[Deej 76755]

16 hours ago, Clarence Worley said:

And thanks for educating me Deej.  I googled Pete Townshend thinking that he may he be a lawyer or an activist.  Should’ve known better.  Knew he was a member of The Who.  Thought maybe he was a lawyer with the same name.  Just learned much more about The Who’s Pete Townshend.  😀

Lulz

[Deej 76755]

2 hours ago, Hate said:

All I know is that I’ve had email addresses for over 30 years now and I’ve never been sent a link that I could accidentally click on to see kiddie porn….because I don’t look at kiddie porn. You’re “friend” is lying to you and probably should be in jail.

Maybe he misread it as "kitty porn"?

 

[txhorns 2409]

@Clarence Worley what did you do to help your friend achieve his dreams?  You mentioned having helped him in some way but didn’t say what you did.

[Clarence Worley 22]

@txhorns, I bought some property from them that they had just bought and they were planning to build their retirement home on in a few years.  As soon as I found out they listed it I bought it.  It is helping them at least raise some money for an attorney.  They can either buy the property back from me when the dust settles or I will sell it.  

[BrazilHorn 6586]

14 hours ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

Talking to the police is bad, lying to the police is worse.

Seems like a good time to re-post this:

I have 4 kids now in the 19-25 range.  When they were in high school, I _required_ them to watch that video and regurgitate back to me what was in it.  It's never a bad idea for adults to rewatch it. 

tldr; The first rule about police is you don't talk to the police.

100% this. I’ve shown this video to my kids as well. Your friend screwed up 100000% by telling cops anything. 
Also who clicks links from randos that purport to have porn attached? Does your friend also send money to Nigerian Princes?

[Blotto 23491]

3 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Yes, let’s be honest. If this is a sting operation, the link didn’t say “click here for a chance to win an iPad.” It didn’t even say “meet hot big breasted wimmenz here.” Then BAM! Kiddie porn. 

Sounds like the work of some diabolical evil geniuses....

before you know it, you're on the hook for $1K. Be careful out there folks. 

[tejas60 3532]

4 hours ago, Clintonaldo said:

One thing I can confidently say is we all need a friend like SKJ. 

fify

[Chopper 17230]

I'm lost at the decision to preemptively contact law enforcement. What a bizarre decision if the situation is as described.

[Dnaguy 11920]

The premise of this thread…..

[Dnaguy 11920]

@immamac

Can we rename this thread:

George Santos decides to join Surlyhorns!

[mchookem 16322]

7 hours ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Clarence, there isn’t some malicious email scam designed to ensnare innocent people into kiddie porn charges.

i agree with this...with a caveat that sometimes it's just assholes fucking with people. i have my own story about this...involving my dearly departed mother, who was pretty naive when it came to online shit, no matter how many times i told her 'DO.NO.CLICK.ANYTHING.EVER.'

she once paid like $400 for some 'internet security' scam on her PC, which included giving remote access to someone in Bangladesh or god knows where. thank GOD she didn't do any online banking or anything at that time...by the time she told me about it it was too late to do anything. 🙄

anyway...apparently she clicked something else on her phone at one point...she called my sister in an absolute panic because "ohmyGOD!!! there are HORRIBLE THINGS on my phone! i don't want to see this!! what is happening?? what do i do, how did this get here, HOW DO I GET RID OF IT?? it's AWFUL!!" which...from her reaction it was clearly some form of porn, kiddie or not. but maybe?

anyways...she basically just took her phone into Verizon and threw it at the guy and was all "THERE IS HORRIBLE STUFF ON MY PHONE AND I CAN'T GET RID OF IT YOU NEED TO FIX THIS NOW!!"...and they did lol. 

obviously she clicked on some phishing link (like i said, wasn't the first time) and either downloaded some stuff or more likely it took over her browser...but it was definitely some scammer fuck. 

so yeah, there's probably no law enforcement designed phishing scheme, but sometimes there are just malicious, evil people out there, undoubtedly tied to somehow making $$$ (blackmail? 'security'?), who try to ensnare naive folks. not saying that's Clarence's friend (sounding more likely that it's not...) but i think it does happen. 

[Viper 12104]

On 1/14/2023 at 4:50 PM, Judge Roybeanbag said:

On a serious note, if he is innocent it should be fairly straightforward for a decent computer forensics lawyer/firm to confirm what actually happened, or didn’t happen.  Yeah it would suck to be falsely accused and have to spend the money defending yourself, but it seems like it shouldn’t be hard to prove if all he did was receive an unsolicited email and click on an attachment.  

This is really the only advice needed. He should do this yesterday. If you're still curious you can try asking https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/ but they'll also tell your friend to get a lawyer asap.

[TwiceHorn 31440]

11 hours ago, Foosters said:

I've had the pleasure of representing multiple people charged with this offense. 

If the local police are sending child porn to unsuspecting citizens, then they too are guilty of the crime and could all be arrested. 

Shit, the DAs even have complex procedures for handling, viewing, and marking the evidence that involves multiple clearances and a literal safe room.

Do you have any insight on why/whether/when the feds take over CP prosecutions?  State prosecutions seem quite rare.

The safeguards of the evidence don't really surprise me.  But, just a few years back, the feds took over and ran a forum or server for several months or years to try to snag all of the "subscribers" or whatever they were.  They got a lot of shit for that, rightfully so.  The big theory behind child pr0n excessive criminality is that each viewing of an image constitutes a further injury to the victim and that the distribution of it creates and furthers the "market" for it.  I'm not sure I 100% buy those rationales, but the feds certainly did their part on that one.  Fuckers.

[TwiceHorn 31440]

And, reiterating what Pig said, he needs to get a lawyer with experience with these kinds of cases and stop talking about it.

Even if what he is telling people is true, any inconsistencies in what he said or what people recall that he said could be used against him in a prosecution.

[Clarence Worley 22]

He has hired an attorney.

I met with my friend yesterday because like everyone has said, the details of the story don’t add up.  

This didn’t originate with an email after all.  He searched for a site and went to a site that he has visited before that supposedly has legal content.  He didn’t share the name of the site and I didn’t want know.  That’s for his lawyer to investigate.  He said there were disclaimers that the content was legal.  This particular time he was browsing the site and he said he saw a link to something that had “Mega …” in the name.  I will let you use your imagination.  He said there was nothing to indicate it was a link to illegal content.  

When he clicked on the link a bunch of pop ups started opening.  He panicked and spent the next several minutes closing pop ups that were opening.  He said he didn’t see what images were in the popups.  He was focused on closing them.  It seems like he downloaded malware or a virus and didn’t know it.  All of this has been shared with local authorities which I told him was not the smartest thing to do but he said he had nothing to hide. I told him it didn’t matter.  Their job is not to prove your innocence.  

I thought this originated with an email that he received because it was what his wife indicated but she was distraught when we talked to her and didn’t have all of the facts herself.  My friend may have also told her this originated with an email because he was extremely embarrassed.  Also it was the email service provider that reported it and they shut down his email account not too long after the incident occurred. So the good news I suppose is that this was not some sort of sting operation and my friend was not being targeted based on prior activity on the internet.

So question to any IT experts that would know.  Could my friend have downloaded malware or a virus that attached illegal images to emails or sent emails with links to illegal content?  My friend is not IT savvy and had no idea that this is what may have happened.  The images that the cops had in their possession had some sort of digital watermark on them and that’s how they were detected.  My friend probably should’ve done what @mchookem’s mother did and basically self-reported it.  

I told my friend and his wife that they need to make sure a cyber crimes or cyber forensic expert is hired.  If his story is true then I would think it could be easily proven.  I also let him know that if he is lying to me that our friendship is over and I will find out if he is lying to me because all of the evidence that will be presented in court.  This is the time to be completely honest with me and that this is affecting everyone in his orbit especially since the cops have been monitoring his activity, who he associates with, etc.  He knows if he is lying to his closest friends and family he risks losing everything and isolating himself.

Also the local police department has been watching my friend and monitoring his activity over the past several months after they received the info from the email service provider.  Evidently this was the only incident of viewing or downloading illicit content that they found but they still had to arrest and charge him.

This is all I’m going to share for now until the case goes to trial but I did want to share an update because there is more to the story and wanted to clear up some of the misinformation that led people to believe this was a bs story.  I would still like other’s opinions especially the IT experts around here.  

[Nice Guy Eddie 13509]

If he went to the cops at the beginning, that action alerted them that he was potentially into this sort of thing? Why you ask. Say you are doing something illegal online but you're smart enough to use an anonymous VPN.  Then one day you notice that the VPN wasn't activated after viewing that content. You freak out, decide to get ahead of the potential of the ISP turning you in. You call the cops and claim you did nothing wrong.  You might even tell yourself that you're done with that behavior.

Cops are skeptical and get a search warrant for the ISP. Then they catch you.

I'm sure that someone somewhere has been railroaded into this type of charge but I have to believe that is the exception not the rule.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13509]

On 1/14/2023 at 10:23 PM, MaybeACoordinator said:

I followed a case like this about ten years ago: guy was a meteorologist for BP, big house up in Kingwood, two kids, reasonably hot wife, seemed normal on social media, lots of old friends, and WHAM -- busted one day in possession of / distributing enough kiddy porn to send him to prison for several decades. (He must have been some kind of kingpin or the shit must have been really vile or both)

His wife had some bullshit job so she had to fend for herself and the kids after that.

Around that same time there was another case up in Highland Park where it was the woman who was into kiddy pornt and apparently hubs did not know. 

So...as the late great Houston Astro Joaquin Andujar once put it "There is a word in English for things like this and that word is junebberknow"

according to his inmate page, he had some bad charges on him from prior to the story you linked.  https://inmate.tdcj.texas.gov/InmateSearch/viewDetail.action?sid=50022962  eligible for parole as soon as 2026 

[Jerry Callo 8699]

31 minutes ago, Clarence Worley said:

I also let him know that if he is lying to me that our friendship is over and I will find out if he is lying to me because all of the evidence that will be presented in court.  This is the time to be completely honest with me and that this is affecting everyone in his orbit especially since the cops have been monitoring his activity, who he associates with, etc.  He knows if he is lying to his closest friends and family he risks losing everything and isolating himself.

You are not doing your friend any favors having him tell you the story - truthfully or otherwise.  He needs to stop talking to anyone but his attorney and his friends need to stop asking him about it or shut him off if he wants to talk.

[closetohumping 17435]

Some hot chicks from Russia have been sending me emails.  Should I click?

[Clarence Worley 22]

@Jerry Callo, wholeheartedly agree.  Since you did a masterful job defending the two youths that were falsely accused of shooting and killing the clerk and helping the local police department solve the crime with the help of your lovely fiancée, I will definitely heed your advice.  

[Pig Bellmont 8712]

48 minutes ago, Clarence Worley said:

He has hired an attorney.

I met with my friend yesterday because like everyone has said, the details of the story don’t add up.  

This didn’t originate with an email after all.  He searched for a site and went to a site that he has visited before that supposedly has legal content.  He didn’t share the name of the site and I didn’t want know.  That’s for his lawyer to investigate.  He said there were disclaimers that the content was legal.  This particular time he was browsing the site and he said he saw a link to something that had “Mega …” in the name.  I will let you use your imagination.  He said there was nothing to indicate it was a link to illegal content.  

When he clicked on the link a bunch of pop ups started opening.  He panicked and spent the next several minutes closing pop ups that were opening.  He said he didn’t see what images were in the popups.  He was focused on closing them.  It seems like he downloaded malware or a virus and didn’t know it.  All of this has been shared with local authorities which I told him was not the smartest thing to do but he said he had nothing to hide. I told him it didn’t matter.  Their job is not to prove your innocence.  

I thought this originated with an email that he received because it was what his wife indicated but she was distraught when we talked to her and didn’t have all of the facts herself.  My friend may have also told her this originated with an email because he was extremely embarrassed.  Also it was the email service provider that reported it and they shut down his email account not too long after the incident occurred. So the good news I suppose is that this was not some sort of sting operation and my friend was not being targeted based on prior activity on the internet.

So question to any IT experts that would know.  Could my friend have downloaded malware or a virus that attached illegal images to emails or sent emails with links to illegal content?  My friend is not IT savvy and had no idea that this is what may have happened.  The images that the cops had in their possession had some sort of digital watermark on them and that’s how they were detected.  My friend probably should’ve done what @mchookem’s mother did and basically self-reported it.  

I told my friend and his wife that they need to make sure a cyber crimes or cyber forensic expert is hired.  If his story is true then I would think it could be easily proven.  I also let him know that if he is lying to me that our friendship is over and I will find out if he is lying to me because all of the evidence that will be presented in court.  This is the time to be completely honest with me and that this is affecting everyone in his orbit especially since the cops have been monitoring his activity, who he associates with, etc.  He knows if he is lying to his closest friends and family he risks losing everything and isolating himself.

Also the local police department has been watching my friend and monitoring his activity over the past several months after they received the info from the email service provider.  Evidently this was the only incident of viewing or downloading illicit content that they found but they still had to arrest and charge him.

This is all I’m going to share for now until the case goes to trial but I did want to share an update because there is more to the story and wanted to clear up some of the misinformation that led people to believe this was a bs story.  I would still like other’s opinions especially the IT experts around here.  

This is how you get to be a witness. You’ve heard admissions and a changing story.
 

Seriously, if this is real and you want to support the guy, the details aren’t your problem. Bring meals over, offer support, watch a game, but don’t talk about the facts of his case. 
 

Personally, I’d distance myself from all this BS

[Doc Sam Beckett 5792]

On 1/14/2023 at 9:36 PM, SKJ said:

Advice on friends: don't have them.

Lulz

[Nice Guy Eddie 13509]

As an aside, if I ever inadvertently clicked on a link that brought up illegal content. Within minutes, I would be ripping out the hard drive, breaking out a drill and destroying it. Then maybe dropping it into the ocean. 

[Jerry Callo 8699]

13 minutes ago, Clarence Worley said:

@Jerry Callo, wholeheartedly agree.  Since you did a masterful job defending the two youths that were falsely accused of shooting and killing the clerk and helping the local police department solve the crime with the help of your lovely fiancée, I will definitely heed your advice.  

Remember - that case began with an accidental confession.

[Clarence Worley 22]

@Jerry Callo.  Yep.  I actually brought that up yesterday when my friend told me he talked to the police without a lawyer present.  It is a movie but I imagine that scene although comedic is a real scenario.

I didn’t expect Jerry Callo contribute to this thread.  😀

[Jkwellborn 6692]

Contact Pete Townshend.

Wait, what?

[Deej 76755]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Townshend

 

"Townshend accepted a caution from the Metropolitan Police (the Met) as part of Operation Ore, a major investigation on child pornography conducted in 2002–2003. The Met stated that "it was established that Mr Townshend was not in possession of any downloaded child abuse images". Townshend was on a sex offenders register for five years, beginning in 2003, after admitting he had used his credit card to access a child pornography website.[144][145] Townshend claimed he accessed the images as research in a campaign against child sexual abuse[146] – specifically, to prove that British banks were complicit in channelling the profits from paedophile rings.[147] Authorities could not prove that the website accessed by Townshend involved children, and no incriminating evidence was found on his personal computer."

Edited January 16, 2023 by Deej

[RDCanecutter 26398]

I am calling it now-- a future mayor of Austin will come out of this thread.

[Pig Bellmont 8712]

50 minutes ago, Clarence Worley said:

yesterday when my friend told me he talked to the police without a lawyer present.

Prepare yourself for a guilty verdict 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13509]

Your buddy should be hitting up the gym and taking self defense classes. Prison is supposed to be very tough for those convicted in the chomo categories.

[Neonmoon 38129]

On 1/14/2023 at 4:10 PM, Clarence Worley said:

My friend received an email over a year ago and he clicked on the link.  The link had content that is illegal to download and distribute.  The content was earmarked and as soon as my friend clicked on the link, the information was reported to local authorities.  The first police department that received the info decided not to act on it.  It was a one time incident and It was clear to them that as soon as my friend clicked on the link he knew he had viewed illegal content and closed the webpage, but the crime had already been committed.  

The info was passed on to another police department that has jurisdiction over the county that my friend resides.  That police department decided to act on the information over a year after the incident occurred and just arrested him and charged him with possession and intent to distribute.  He never distributed the content.  

 

2 hours ago, Clarence Worley said:

This didn’t originate with an email after all.  He searched for a site and went to a site that he has visited before that supposedly has legal content.  He didn’t share the name of the site and I didn’t want know.  That’s for his lawyer to investigate.  He said there were disclaimers that the content was legal.  This particular time he was browsing the site and he said he saw a link to something that had “Mega …” in the name.  I will let you use your imagination.  He said there was nothing to indicate it was a link to illegal content.  

When he clicked on the link a bunch of pop ups started opening.  He panicked and spent the next several minutes closing pop ups that were opening.  He said he didn’t see what images were in the popups.  He was focused on closing them.  It seems like he downloaded malware or a virus and didn’t know it.  All of this has been shared with local authorities which I told him was not the smartest thing to do but he said he had nothing to hide. 

Your friend continues to lie to you and/or you continue to lie to Surly. 

You work for an IT company bur come to Surly for IT experts? If this is a real story, your friend definitely watches child pornography and you should definitely stop communicating with him. But again, I would put money on this being made up for clicks. 

 

 

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Your man is going to prison, if any of this shit is real.