WTF! Eating Freshwater fish equal to drinking a month's worth of water laced with PFOS

[crash_davis 23076]

20 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Holy shit I had no idea Topo had such a high level of PFAS in it. I think them taking care of it was in response to the new EPA legal limit that set it at 4 parts per trillion. The EPA does have non-enforceable “advisory health limits” of 0.02 ppt and 0.004 ppt for PFOA and PFOS, respectively so I'd say there's a way to go

A weakened EPA is good for business, you commie bastard. Can't have some over reaching nature loving, health protecting, commie entity putting undue cost pressures on companies. How else is are our selfless elected officials to get funding for re-election?

[TonyTexas 10470]

I’d like to see a study on Chinese Tilapia. 

[SKJ 1298]

Or swai...

Which is commonly sold as catfish in most restaurants

[Captainant 27250]

It sure is a good thing that industry lobbyists successfully killed a bill last year that would have set a health-conscious PFAS limit and provided enforcement mechanisms. I just know that the American consumer will be protected and that they'll have sufficient recourse against the corporations profiting off of literally poisoning them

[Jkwellborn 6616]

I’d like to see a study on Chinese Tilapia. 

I work with a guy that won’t eat catfish because it’s dirty but loves tilapia.

[Underdog 28392]

Probably isn’t affect wildlife…

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jiggy-Z 3427]

On 3/2/2024 at 11:55 AM, Jkwellborn said:

I work with a guy that won’t eat catfish because it’s dirty but loves tilapia.

Yes. The wild freshwater catfish in general has been unfairly maligned, no doubt due to its association with farm raised and saltwater (hard head) varieties.

It has also gotten a reputation as a bottom trash feeder, due to its opportunistic and versatile ability to not be too picky in a pinch and feed on dead bait, but make no mistake, the humble catfish is one of the most aggressive live bait predators in the river or lake.

[Captainant 27250]

44 minutes ago, Jiggy-Z said:

Yes. The wild freshwater catfish in general has been unfairly maligned, no doubt due to its association with farm raised and saltwater (hard head) varieties.

It has also gotten a reputation as a bottom trash feeder, due to its opportunistic and versatile ability to not be too picky in a pinch and feed on dead bait, but make no mistake, the humble catfish is one of the most aggressive live bait predators in the river or lake.

Being an aggressive predator also means that they will be a point of concentration for any pollutants that have been consumed by its prey. We saw it with DEET, and how the birds eating the bugs that it killed ended up having eggs with soft shells and sickly offspring. 

I wonder how one would go about submitting store bought catfish and tilapia to test for PFAS. It wouldn't shock me if it were off the scale

[Jkwellborn 6616]

Yes. The wild freshwater catfish in general has been unfairly maligned, no doubt due to its association with farm raised and saltwater (hard head) varieties.
It has also gotten a reputation as a bottom trash feeder, due to its opportunistic and versatile ability to not be too picky in a pinch and feed on dead bait, but make no mistake, the humble catfish is one of the most aggressive live bait predators in the river or lake.

Catfish will eat anything. I’m a fan of Sulphur River cats though.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11780]

1 hour ago, Jiggy-Z said:

Yes. The wild freshwater catfish in general has been unfairly maligned, no doubt due to its association with farm raised and saltwater (hard head) varieties.

It has also gotten a reputation as a bottom trash feeder, due to its opportunistic and versatile ability to not be too picky in a pinch and feed on dead bait, but make no mistake, the humble catfish is one of the most aggressive live bait predators in the river or lake.

Thanks, Marlon Perkins! (I read that in his voice)

[Jiggy-Z 3427]

49 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Being an aggressive predator also means that they will be a point of concentration for any pollutants that have been consumed by its prey. We saw it with DEET, and how the birds eating the bugs that it killed ended up having eggs with soft shells and sickly offspring. 

I wonder how one would go about submitting store bought catfish and tilapia to test for PFAS. It wouldn't shock me if it were off the scale

All true. I was addressing it's quality as table fair had it not been polluted.

[Bevo 13468]

On 1/18/2023 at 11:12 AM, crash_davis said:

Not sure WTF this all means other than we eating and drinking our own manufacturing shit chemicals. Study was conducted around Great Lakes region. I don't know what PFAS do to your body but I guess nothing good?

 

Article: https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/976367

Source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0013935122024926#fig1

EWG study: Eating one freshwater fish equals a month of drinking ‘forever chemicals’ water

PFAS found at high levels in freshwater fish, with most concern for vulnerable communities

Peer-Reviewed Publication

ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP

WASHINGTON – A new study by Environmental Working Group scientists finds that consumption of just a single serving of freshwater fish per year could be equal to a month of drinking water laced with the “forever chemical” PFOS at high levels that may be harmful.

Researchers calculated that eating one fish in a year equated to ingesting water with PFOS at 48 parts per trillion, or ppt, for one month.

The study bolsters EWG’s long-running calls for strict regulation of PFOS and the other toxic “forever chemicals” known as PFAS, in addition to more tests of food such as fish, since diet is thought to be a major source of PFAS exposure for Americans.

EWG found the median amounts of PFAS in freshwater fish were an astounding 280 times greater than forever chemicals detected in some commercially caught and sold fish. The testing data, from the Environmental Protection Agency and Food and Drug Administration, showed that consuming a single meal of freshwater fish could lead to similar PFAS exposure as ingesting store-bought fish every day for a year.

“People who consume freshwater fish, especially those who catch and eat fish regularly, are at risk of alarming levels of PFAS in their bodies,” said David Andrews, Ph.D., EWG senior scientist and one of the study’s lead authors. “Growing up, I went fishing every week and ate those fish. But now when I see fish, all I think about is PFAS contamination.”

The forever chemical found at greatest concentrations in freshwater fish was PFOS, formerly an ingredient in 3M’s Scotchgard, averaging roughly three in four of total PFAS detections. 

Consumption of PFOS-contaminated freshwater fish can cause significant increases in peoples’ blood serum levels of the forever chemical, creating potential health risks. Even infrequent consumption of freshwater fish can raise PFOS levels in the body.

PFOS is a chemical in the PFAS family.

 

PFOS (Perfluorooctanesulfonic acid) is a synthetic chemical used to make products resistant to stains, grease, soil, and water. PFOS is part of a class of chemicals called PFAS (per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances).

[DigglerontheHoof 20965]

On 3/1/2024 at 10:37 AM, Captainant said:

Holy shit I had no idea Topo had such a high level of PFAS in it. I think them taking care of it was in response to the new EPA legal limit that set it at 4 parts per trillion. The EPA does have non-enforceable “advisory health limits” of 0.02 ppt and 0.004 ppt for PFOA and PFOS, respectively so I'd say there's a way to go

Me neither.  JFC, I drink that shit like, well, water. 

[Beau Vine 53866]

On 3/1/2024 at 12:17 PM, TonyTexas said:

I’d like to see a study on Chinese Tilapia. 

Or crawdads...

[Nivek 16772]

12 hours ago, Captainant said:

Being an aggressive predator also means that they will be a point of concentration for any pollutants that have been consumed by its prey. We saw it with DEET, and how the birds eating the bugs that it killed ended up having eggs with soft shells and sickly offspring. 

I wonder how one would go about submitting store bought catfish and tilapia to test for PFAS. It wouldn't shock me if it were off the scale

trophic amplification.  Great that we have words for this right?

[TheStoicPaisano 9904]

How many shrimp for iodine poisoning?

Edited March 5 by TheStoicPaisano

[Goredho 17273]

On 1/23/2023 at 9:43 AM, WhatTheBuck said:

Maybe we should stop using those chemicals. 

I'm sure they improve one or more corporations monthly earnings call, so I'm sorry, there's simply nothing that can be done.

[Jkwellborn 6616]

I'm sure they improve one or more corporations monthly earnings call, so I'm sorry, there's simply nothing that can be done.

You mean politicians.

[troph 24500]

On 1/23/2023 at 12:23 PM, Vanderpool said:

Someone needs to test Waterloo. If any of those come back hot, I’m screwed. 

Supposedly they are one of the cleanest.

[Captainant 27250]

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/us-appeals-court-curtails-epas-ability-regulate-pfas-under-toxic-substances-law-2024-03-22/

5th circuit says the Environmental Protection Agency lacks the authority to regulate toxic chemicals being released by products 

[safe sex 11628]

lmao

[Chooky 13292]

On 1/22/2023 at 11:59 AM, Sawbonz said:

Not topo Chico though right?

[Sawbonz 27301]

On 3/4/2024 at 5:27 PM, Beau Vine said:

Or crawdads...

Then you’ll have to test sand 

[Braff Zacklin 13364]

On 3/4/2024 at 6:02 AM, Captainant said:

We saw it with DEET, and how the birds eating the bugs that it killed ended up having eggs with soft shells and sickly offspring.

Did you mean to say DDT, the pesticide that was banned in 1972?

DEET is the active chemical in most bug repellants, like OFF!

[ImissWallyPryor 9044]

Reverse osmosis filtration systems by are very common in homes in my area. I can’t recall seeing one in a home in Texas.

https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news-release/2023/07/ewg-tests-find-four-water-filters-effectively-remove-forever

 

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The best way to filter PFAS from your water is an in-home reverse osmosis filter under your sink or at your tap, but the cost of this kind of system puts them out of reach for some.

They aren’t that expensive, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the used filters end up in a landfill near you (and me).

Note:  The R.O. filtration system lowered the ph of our water because it removed minerals used to balance the ph. We then had a corosex filter installed to add magnesia to the water to raise the ph back to neutral. It costs about $120 a year to maintain.

Edited March 26 by ImissWallyPryor
Added note.

[Schulz2.0 28710]

My company recently did a pilot using mild detergent to bind to PFAS/PFOS compounds. They then aerate it and remove the foam. It's relatively cheap and simple. The removal rate was around 99%. The "It's too expensive" excuse is kind of horseshit.

[Pods 7503]

3 hours ago, ImissWallyPryor said:

Reverse osmosis filtration systems by are very common in homes in my area. I can’t recall seeing one in home in Texas.

https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news-release/2023/07/ewg-tests-find-four-water-filters-effectively-remove-forever

 

They aren’t that expensive, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the used filters end up in a landfill near you (and me).

Great suggestion.

Be sure to check the efficiency of the process too. We has an Aquasona we no longer use that wastes something like 3-4 gallons for every clean one. 

[Schulz2.0 28710]

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/30/pfas-ban-plastic-containers-court

Edited March 30 by Schulz2.0

[B00M 6248]

On 1/20/2023 at 9:34 PM, dcbc said:

Apparently, some sparkling water has relatively not so great levels of PFAS in it. 

Good thing I added a lot of vodka to the HEB sparkling water I’m drinking right now

 

Edited March 30 by B00M

[Captainant 27250]

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/epa-limits-pfas-chemicals-drinking-water-first-time-rcna147000

The EPA announced Wednesday that levels of PFOA and PFOS — two types of PFAS commonly used in nonstick or stain-resistant products such as food packaging and firefighting foam — can’t exceed 4 parts per trillion in public drinking water. 

Three additional PFAS chemicals will be restricted to 10 parts per trillion. They are PFNA and PFHxS — older versions of PFAS — and GenX chemicals, a newer generation of chemicals created as a replacement for PFOA.

[Captainant 27250]

Love that ocean spray on the beach? It's probably full of PFAS. 

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/apr/19/ocean-spray-pfas-study

Ocean waves crashing on the world’s shores emit more PFAS into the air than the world’s industrial polluters, new research has found, raising concerns about environmental contamination and human exposure along coastlines.

The study measured levels of PFAS released from the bubbles that burst when waves crash, spraying aerosols into the air. It found sea spray levels were hundreds of thousands times higher than levels in the water.

The contaminated spray likely affects groundwater, surface water, vegetation, and agricultural products near coastlines that are far from industrial sources of PFAS, said Ian Cousins, a Stockholm University researcher and the study’s lead author.

“There is evidence that the ocean can be an important source [of PFAS air emissions],” Cousins said. “It is definitely impacting the coastline.”

[Braff Zacklin 13364]

Concerning.

[Foosters 17688]

2 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Concerning.

Indeed. Better rush a case to the 5th circuit to prohibit the testing of oceans for PFASs.

[wild_turkey 3147]

I absolutely love living in a place where our government can’t protect us from harmful chemicals released by publicly traded companies into our water supply, but they can protect us from internet porn. I feel super safe knowing they have my best interests at heart and that our children will grow up healthy. Yay America!

[BurntEyes 5774]

On 1/19/2023 at 5:27 PM, Knoxtnhorn said:

So I live in a suburb of Dallas, Rowlett.  There's a nasty-ass river that somewhat divides Rowlett from Garland.  At any given time, there are 10+ vehicles parked along 66 due to folks fishing.  They're not releasing.  I mean, Lake Ray Hubbard is bad enough.  I don't understand how anyone can even think about eating anything from either of these locations.

@TwiceHorn can confirm. 

There's Mills Branch Creek and Bradfield Creek that both feed into Rowlett Creek and ultimately Ray Hubbard.

For those unfamiliar with these lovely creeks, Bradfield basically starts as run off from industrial:

Then beautiful Mills Branch starts at industrial and consumer recycling plants:

They come meet Rowlett Creek just south of 66 which is great for parking:

And you can see the lovely lake action of Ray Hubbard:

[BurntEyes 5774]

43 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:

I absolutely love living in a place where our government can’t protect us from harmful chemicals released by publicly traded companies into our water supply, but they can protect us from internet porn. I feel super safe knowing they have my best interests at heart and that our children will grow up healthy. Yay America!

You seem like a communist. They are always thinking of the children. I've illustrated above how amazing the fishing scene is in the middle of Dallas suburbs. Take your family, take a picnic, make it a day of fun and fishing on the Rowlett River while completely free of porn.

Why do you hate Amurica?

[Captainant 27250]

Can we update the thread to "Texas tap water laced with PFAS/PFOS"?

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/04/16/texas-pfas-forever-chemicals-public-water-systems-epa-limit/

In Texas, 49 public water utility systems have reported surpassing the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s first-ever limits for five “forever chemicals” in drinking water, according to data submitted to the federal agency.

Experts say there are likely more since not all water systems have submitted their data.

...

Texas water utilities that have reported one or more PFAS chemical exceeding the new federal standard:

Spoiler

•  

• Abilene Northeast and Grimes Water Treatment Plant
• Town of Anthony
• Arlington Pierce Burch Water Treatment Plant
• Baytown Area Water Authority
• Big Springs Water Plant
• Clear Lake Water Authority
• Childress Water Plant
• Cockrell Hill Water Plant
• Coupland: Manville Water Supply Corporation
• Dallas Water Utility Eula Water Supply Cooperation in Clyde
• Deer Park Surface Water Treatment Plant
• Duncanville Water Treatment Plant
• Edinburg Wastewater Plant
• City of Farmers Branch
• Town of Flower Mound Wastewater Treatment
• Fort Bend County Municipal Utility District No. 133
• Fort Bend County Municipal Utility District No. 41
• Fort Worth North and South Holly Water Treatment Plant
• Gastonia Scurry Special Utility District
• Georgetown San Gabriel Park Water Treatment Plant
• Grapevine Water Treatment Plant
• Greenville Water Treatment Plant
• Haltom City
• Harris County Municipal Utility District No. 119
• Harris County Municipal Utility District No. 8
• Houston: Spencer Road Public Utility District
• Hudson Oaks Lakeshore Plant
• Huntsville Palm Street Water Plant
• Irving MacArthur Pump Station
• Katy: Big Oaks Municipal Utility District
• Killeen: West Bell County Water Supply
• La Feria Water Treatment Plant
• City of Lake Worth
• City of Livingston
• Midland Water Purification Plant
• Prosper Custer Pump Station
• Port Lavaca Guadalupe-Blanco River Authority Water Treatment Plant
• San Antonio Water System Castle Hills
• City of Seagoville
• Seguin: Springs Hill Water Supply Corporation
• Temple Water Treatment Plant
• Terrell North Texas Municipal Water District
• City of Tye
• Weatherford Water Treatment Plant
• West University Place Plant 1 and 2

Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, and a bunch of municipal districts hit

Edited April 22 by Captainant

[BurntEyes 5774]

Here is a really good group I found out about today while listening to a podcast regarding bottled water issues with PFAS.

https://www.ewg.org/

Side note, the podcast was Stuff You Should Know which has been around 14 years. It a great podcast and tries it's best not to go full CR. They do some but...

https://stuffyoushouldknow.com/

You can search for podcasts on that page. If you search for Bottled Water that show will come up.

Edited April 22 by BurntEyes

[Captainant 27250]

TPWD issued a new warning on PCB's and dioxins for pretty much all the coastal Houston and LA waterways. So much for redfish and trout ceviche. 

https://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoor-annual/fishing/general-rules-regulations/fish-consumption-bans-and-advisories/

[bolverk 29261]

Some dick-drawing lawyers are about to make bank.

Lawyers to Plastics Makers: Prepare for ‘Astronomical’ PFAS Lawsuits
At an industry presentation about dangerous “forever chemicals,” lawyers predicted a wave of lawsuits that could dwarf asbestos litigation, audio from the event revealed.

The defense lawyer minced no words as he addressed a room full of plastic-industry executives. Prepare for a wave of lawsuits with potentially “astronomical” costs. Speaking at a conference earlier this year, the lawyer, Brian Gross, said the coming litigation could “dwarf anything related to asbestos,” one of the most sprawling corporate-liability battles in United States history.

Mr. Gross was referring to PFAS, the “forever chemicals” that have emerged as one of the major pollution issues of our time. Used for decades in countless everyday objects — cosmetics, takeout containers, frying pans — PFAS have been linked to serious health risks including cancer. Last month the federal government said several types of PFAS must be removed from the drinking water of hundreds of millions of Americans.

“Do what you can, while you can, before you get sued,” Mr. Gross said at the February session, according to a recording of the event made by a participant and examined by The New York Times. “Review any marketing materials or other communications that you’ve had with your customers, with your suppliers, see whether there’s anything in those documents that’s problematic to your defense,” he said. “Weed out people and find the right witness to represent your company.”
A spokesman for Mr. Gross’s employer, MG+M The Law Firm, which defends companies in high-stakes litigation, didn’t respond to questions about Mr. Gross’s remarks and said he was unavailable to discuss them.

A wide swathe of the chemicals, plastics and related industries are gearing up to fight a surge in litigation related to PFAS, or per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances, a class of nearly 15,000 versatile synthetic chemicals linked to serious health problems.

PFAS chemicals, short for per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances, have been detected almost everywhere scientists have looked: in drinking water, in rain falling over the Great Lakes, even in Antarctic snow. They are thought to be present in the blood of nearly every American. Researchers have linked exposure to PFAS to testicular and kidney cancers, developmental delays in children, decreased fertility, liver damage and thyroid disease. The man-made chemicals are so long-lasting that scientists haven’t been able to reliably identify how long it might take for them to break down.

PFAS-related lawsuits have already targeted manufacturers in the United States, including DuPont, its spinoff Chemours, and 3M. Last year, 3M agreed to pay at least $10 billion to water utilities across the United States that had sought compensation for cleanup costs. Thirty state attorneys general have also sued PFAS manufacturers, accusing the manufacturers of widespread contamination.

But experts say the legal battle is just beginning. Under increasing scrutiny are a wider universe of companies that use PFAS in their products. This month, plaintiffs filed a class-action lawsuit against Bic, accusing the razor company for failing to disclose that some of its razors contained PFAS.

Bic said it doesn’t comment on pending litigation, and said it had a longstanding commitment to safety.

cont'd:

Spoiler

The Biden administration has moved to regulate the chemicals, for the first time requiring municipal water systems to remove six types of PFAS. Last month, the Environmental Protection Agency also designated two of those PFAS chemicals as hazardous substances under the Superfund law, shifting responsibility for their cleanup at contaminated sites from taxpayers to polluters.

Both rules are expected to prompt a new round of litigation from water utilities, local communities and others suing for cleanup costs.

“To say that the floodgates are opening is an understatement,” said Emily M. Lamond, an attorney who focuses on environmental litigation at the law firm Cole Schotz. “Take tobacco, asbestos, MTBE, combine them, and I think we’re still going to see more PFAS-related litigation,” she said, referring to methyl tert-butyl ether, a former harmful gasoline additive that contaminated drinking water. Together, the trio led to claims totaling hundreds of billions of dollars.

PFAS were an industrial marvel when chemists at Dupont in the 1940s synthesized the material, a remarkably durable compound resistant to water, stains, heat and grease. It quickly became a mainstay in DuPont’s Teflon nonstick pans and 3M’s Scotchgard fabric protector. A powerful fire suppressant, it helped firefighters battle flames. Today, they are used for everyday items as varied as microwave popcorn bags, shampoos, raincoats and firefighting foam.

But the very qualities that have made PFAS so valuable have also prevented them from breaking down naturally in the environment. As PFAS entered the environment from factories, products and landfills, the chemicals have started to accumulate in water, air and soil.

Industry documents released through litigation show that manufacturers found adverse health effects from PFAS exposure as early as 1961. But it wasn’t until the early 2000s that questions increasingly emerged in public about their safety. In 2005, the E.P.A. fined DuPont $10 million, at that time the largest administrative fine ever levied by the agency, for failing to disclose PFAS’s adverse effects.

All that has set the stage for a potential legal storm. Unlike tobacco, used by only a subset of the public, “pretty much every one of us in the United States is walking around with PFAS in our bodies,” said Erik Olson, senior strategic director for environmental health at the Natural Resources Defense Council. “And we’re being exposed without our knowledge or consent, often by industries that knew how dangerous the chemicals were, and failed to disclose that,” he said. “That’s a formula for really significant liability.”

Sandy Wynn-Stelt of Belmont, Mich., brought one early case. A year after she lost her husband to liver cancer in 2016, she discovered that the Christmas tree farm in front of her home, which had seemed such an idyllic setting, had been a dumping ground for PFAS-laden tannery waste from Wolverine World Wide, the maker of Hush Puppies shoes.

Wolverine had been among the first to license 3M’s Scotchgard for its waterproof footwear. Mrs. Wynn-Stelt got her blood tested, and found PFAS levels hundreds of times the norm. In 2020, she was diagnosed with thyroid cancer.

She sued Wolverine and 3M, and reached a settlement in 2021. Separately, nearly 2,000 local residents settled a class-action lawsuit against Wolverine. The region’s water source remains polluted with PFAS.

“Those lawyers are exactly right. This is going to be huge, now that people are starting to hold companies accountable,” Mrs. Wynn-Stelt said.

Wolverine declined to comment. 3M said it continued to “address PFAS litigation by defending itself in court or through negotiated resolutions.”
Much of the course of future litigation hinges on the evidence over PFAS’s health risks. There is broad scientific consensus that certain PFAS chemicals are harmful.

“There’s a weight of evidence,” said Linda Birnbaum, a toxicologist and the former director of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences. “Multiple studies by different investigators, and in different populations.”

Max Swetman, another MG+M partner who presented with Mr. Gross at the February industry conference, addressed the research in his remarks to the group. “There’s a whole lot of new science being created,” he said. “It’s not the best for us.”

Still, some of the research could be vulnerable to criticism, he said. Getting the right experts to testify was crucial, he said. “Epidemiologists, if you get the right one, is always going to be your best expert in trial.”

Mr. Swetman was unavailable to comment on his remarks, according to his law firm.

One challenge facing medical research lies in the sheer number of different PFAS chemicals that have now entered the environment, each of which can have slightly different health effects, said Steph Tai, associate dean at the University of Wisconsin’s Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies and an expert in the use of science in environmental protection and litigation.

“The other thing, too, is that it takes a long time for health effects to show up,” Dr. Tai said, so the only way that scientists have been able to assess those effects is through long-term studies. Researchers must essentially look for what is referred to as “natural experiments,” she said, comparing people who are naturally less exposed to PFAS with those who are more exposed. That inevitably leads to some uncertainties.

The industry has scored some major victories. Last November, the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit tossed out a lawsuit that would have covered every Ohio citizen in a major case over exposure to PFAS, ruling that a firefighter who brought the lawsuit failed to prove that the PFAS found in his blood specifically came from the companies he sued.

3M phased out most uses of two of the most widely used PFAS chemicals, PFOS and PFOA, in the early 2000s, and DuPont in 2015 stopped using PFOA. 3M has said it will phase out PFAS chemicals by the end of next year, though that’s contingent on the company finding substitutes.

“As the science and technology of PFAS, societal and regulatory expectations, and our expectations of ourselves have evolved, so has how we manage PFAS,” 3M said.

DuPont referred inquiries to Chemours, the company that was spun off in 2015. Chemours declined to comment.

A long and difficult cleanup is beginning. President Biden’s 2021 infrastructure law provides $9 billion to help communities address PFAS contamination, and the E.P.A. has said $1 billion of that money would be set aside to help states with initial testing and treatment. Meantime, new kinds of PFAS are still being released into the environment. Scientists are working to learn more about them.

 

[Captainant 27250]

It's always the same oligarchs slowing giving us all cancer so they can make a quicker buck

https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news-release/report-ex-koch-executive-put-key-role-over-epas-pfas-plan

 

[Captainant 27250]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/15/wisconsin-pfas-cleanup?CMP=share_btn_url

Fun stuff - PFAS cleanup funds are being held hostage by politicians until their citizens allow immunity for the businesses that created the problem in the first place. It's a nice preview of what we'll get to enjoy in our own bUsInEsS fRiEnDlY state 

[Bozo_Casanova 26188]

Edited June 15 by Bozo_Casanova

[Bevo 13468]

3 hours ago, Captainant said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/15/wisconsin-pfas-cleanup?CMP=share_btn_url

Fun stuff - PFAS cleanup funds are being held hostage by politicians until their citizens allow immunity for the businesses that created the problem in the first place. It's a nice preview of what we'll get to enjoy in our own bUsInEsS fRiEnDlY state 

 

Why should a handful of attorneys get rich off the backs of the employees of these businesses?

[bolverk 29261]

19 minutes ago, Bevo said:

 

Why should a handful of attorneys get rich off the backs of the employees of these businesses?

I don't know if you're a parent, but I hope you tell/told your kids to pick up their own trash at the park.

[Bevo 13468]

41 minutes ago, bolverk said:

I don't know if you're a parent, but I hope you tell/told your kids to pick up their own trash at the park.

 

I would shoot every last person writing graffiti in Indian caves and walking their dogs without leashes in the park and on the trails, poison their carcasses, mix it into my chili, and feed it to every class action attorney in the US. So, suffice it to say, my kids know how to care for the environment.

[Schulz2.0 28710]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/jun/22/toxic-pfas-chemicals-testes

[B00M 6248]

Fuck man. I hate this thread so much 

[Sam Lin 3539]

On 6/15/2024 at 3:41 PM, Bevo said:

 

I would shoot every last person writing graffiti in Indian caves and walking their dogs without leashes in the park and on the trails, poison their carcasses, mix it into my chili, and feed it to every class action attorney in the US. So, suffice it to say, my kids know how to care for the environment.

Go on...

[Schulz2.0 28710]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/jun/21/protein-bars-no-cow-lead-toxic-pfas-