Cowboys @ Niners: NFC Divisional Round

[Chad 1728]

[futureman 22414]

39 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

Wow. He’s shitfaced. 

wow?

[tx 3 putt 76294]

Edited January 23, 2023 by tx 3 putt

[tx 3 putt 76294]

4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Frank Gore is the outlier.  Zeke is a fairly typical example of how broken an NFL running back gets well before age 30.  He's just out of gas.

 

correct, you just keep drafting rb's. they're cheaper, younger and faster 

[Hook1997 5270]

I wouldn’t be that upset if I was a Cowboy’s fan. The game was closer than most actually expected. They didn’t for once go 8-8 with a top ten talent wise team like they have a lot recently.  Just need to cut Zeke and his contract, get some WR’s, few other parts and the team is in really good shape.  They are far from a rebuild team. It’s kinda like the Aggies of the nfl but they are actually close to winning now and not just talking about it. 

Edited January 23, 2023 by Hook1997

[BurntOrange&White 39566]

30 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Frank Gore is the outlier.  Zeke is a fairly typical example of how broken an NFL running back gets well before age 30.  He's just out of gas.

I think Zeke’s problem is he ate himself out of what made him as good. Doesn’t look near as fast now as he did when he was in his first couple of years. Hardly see him run away from people. 

[Tired Horn 734]

I was listening to some of the post-game chatter, and a fair amount of it was how sick the Cowboys should be for squandering "their chance."

I realize fucking Jerry contributes to this by pretending every year is the Cowboy's year, like it's some kind of birth right, but why does everyone else have to play along? It's been 27 years since the Cowboys won a second-round playoff game. Now, I realize Jerry and company have finally assembled a team with decent talent, but based on the record, all that entitles them to is recognition as a potential playoff team next year. They don't belong in any discussion of the NFL elite and won't until they start consistently producing meaningful playoff wins.

But on the plus side, it was amusing to see that last play on multiple replays, with Zeke getting absolutely annihilated as Center.

[dcar00 14028]

Dak Prescott will never get to the Super Bowl.  He's just a little above average QB who throws a ton of INT's.  His ability to run was what helped him his rookie year and he stopped doing that.  now he's kirk cousins.

[kingkoopa6 8312]

Nah. Dak. Beast. Need a  run game Tho

[runthebone 7931]

It sucks that Pollard got hurt.  The prognosis for a fibula is good, if it's nothing else.  It was bad karma to hope McCaffrey would get injured. 

[TornACL 7674]

I don't know how any of you can watch that game and say oh well them's the breaks, we tried.

Dak murdered this team today.

They didn't even need Dak to be great, just drive the bus.

That first pick was high school shit. The second one, forcing a pass on second and fucking 2 should either get him or golden boy Kellen Moore packing their fucking bags.

Guess what, if you have an alleged brilliant OC and he hasn't been poached in 4 years, you don't have a brilliant OC.

The god damn shit hole franchise and all its three ring circus bullshit lost this game. 

I hope one of those Oklahoma strippers gave Jerry full blown AIDS.

 

[C-Man 27029]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I think Zeke’s problem is he ate himself out of what made him as good. Doesn’t look near as fast now as he did when he was in his first couple of years. Hardly see him run away from people. 

I think this is what it is. He was more interested in going to raves on MDMA and shit instead of working in the offseason. Got kind of fat during his suspension and hasn't quite been the same since.

[tx 3 putt 76294]

 

[Horn80 6075]

4 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I think Zeke’s problem is he ate himself out of what made him as good. Doesn’t look near as fast now as he did when he was in his first couple of years. Hardly see him run away from people. 

Since his contract, Zeke been.nothing more than a FB that is paid like elite RB.  Dak is also paid as elite QB but is  2-4 in playoffs and just lost to a rookie.  Cowboys are cloaked in failure because Jones.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

Could you assholes at least help Zeke up off of the ground from that last play before you rip into him??

[DigglerontheHoof 21044]

If Dallas had any other QB in the divisional round, other than Dak, they're in the NFC CG.  Dak sucks.  He seems like a really good dude but he's a Romo 2.0.  Chokes under pressure. 

[BurntOrange&White 39566]

1 hour ago, Horn80 said:

Since his contract, Zeke been.nothing more than a FB that is paid like elite RB.  Dak is also paid as elite QB but is  2-4 in playoffs and just lost to a rookie.  Cowboys are cloaked in failure because Jones.

Reality is they should try and offload that contract but Jerry will probably not do that. They really need a number 1 receiver. I think Lamb is really good but he’s not a true number 1. I think Pollard is the type of RB the NFL has shifted too. 

[Underdog 28443]

Niners after last seasons PO Game... 

Niners again after the last play yesterday... 

 

[deter 313]

Daj sucks and Diggs is a puss.

[Nicole44 22027]

29 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Reality is they should try and offload that contract but Jerry will probably not do that. They really need a number 1 receiver. I think Lamb is really good but he’s not a true number 1. I think Pollard is the type of RB the NFL has shifted too. 

Jerruh might actually do that? I doubt it. Does anyone remember his misplaced unbridled anger at Amari?Couldn’t send him away fast enough as though Cooper was the reason for the Cowboy’s loss to SF last year. Jerruh won’t admit he and his inbred sloth family put them in cap hell and he’s probably pissed off but it won’t do any good. Damage is done. 

Edited January 23, 2023 by Nicole44

[Dbeasy 14961]

Here’s a scenario. Quinn is named head coach. Moore wins the head coaching job at the Cardinals. Jerry hires Kingsbury as OC. Cardinals trade Dak for Murray straight up. Don’t laugh. Jerry needs to win before he dies soon. He will try any crazy thing to do it. 

[Guest]

Kingsbury and the Ewok will never work together again.

Rest of that story is interesting though.

[Texzilla58 4716]

Black Romo

Nope. Romo would win big games with this team. Dak is the black Danny white.

[HamsterHookah 112]

After taking some time to think about it.

Defense was fantastic, especially considering injuries, but just ran out of gas at the end. Dan Quinn is that dude.

Micah Parsons is like the Luka of the Cowboys— if we don’t show him we will support his generational talent he will get sour and leave eventually. And he will be justified.

Diggs giveth (2021) and he taketh away (2022). The regressing to the mean hurt because his INT there and breaking up that Kittle pass and we likely win even with a Dak stinker.

Dak is as everyone on here except Koopa can see— an average QB paid like he’s elite. Average QBs can win it all though— we saw that with Matt Stafford (and previously with Brad Johnson and Nick Foles and the list goes on), but not with Dak as he doesn’t limit mistakes.

Holding Deebo and Aiyuk in check most of the game and CMC is good. CMC got going at the end a little bit once the D was gassed and having the 3rd RB give them life with fresh legs was killer.

Punting late in the 4th was dumb. Especially when Dak was dumb and almost got a safety. There was no easy answer but I think you had to go for it on 4th and 10.

Purdy outplayed Dak. Purdy is pretty dang good. I thought he’d choke and crack but the guy seems to have the mental game down. 

[Mitch Cumsteen 18523]

I know that Dak was bad and that a lot of the finger pointing will be deservedly aimed at him, but the niners gouged them on the ground in the second half. They bled the clock and Dallas couldn't get off the field. They completely brutalized them. 

[futureman 22414]

10 hours ago, hookem48 said:

Black Romo

dak’s dumb ass will never have half the mental or physical ability of tony romo. 

[futureman 22414]

3 minutes ago, HamsterHookah said:

Dak is as everyone on here except Koopa can see— an average QB paid like he’s elite. Average QBs can win it all though— we saw that with Matt Stafford...

good lord.  are you still drunk from last night?

[LurkingHorn 1044]

7 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I know that Dak was bad and that a lot of the finger pointing will be deservedly aimed at him, but the niners gouged them on the ground in the second half. They bled the clock and Dallas couldn't get off the field. They completely brutalized them. 

That drive hurt but putting much blame on the defense, outside of Diggs for being soft, is pretty off IMO. Even including that drive, the defense gave up 3.5 yards per carry to a very good running team. Bottom line in this game is their QB outplayed our QB. That's it. 

[LTtxfan 48952]

Dak interceptions, Pollard goes down, 49ers bracket Schultz, and lack of WR production except for CeeDee.  49ers wore Cowboys down in 2nd half, put together two long scoring drives, and protected the ball...

 

[Hate 20103]

1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

Here’s a scenario. Quinn is named head coach. Moore wins the head coaching job at the Cardinals. Jerry hires Kingsbury as OC. Cardinals trade Dak for Murray straight up. Don’t laugh. Jerry needs to win before he dies soon. He will try any crazy thing to do it. 

The last thing this team needs is that stupid midget from Arizona.  He's overrated as hell.  I'd rather run it back with Dak than have that POS on the team.

[Texzilla58 4716]

Fractures are often easier to recover from than freakin' high ankle sprains that linger on and on and on...  

Jerry will use that fracture to keep Zeke.

They will low ball pollard and lose him. Will a team pay him $10 mil to be a part time back? He doesn’t like being a 30 carry workhorse. He is low mileage though. We are over spent on RBs. Let them both go. They are dime a dozen.

This team has a patchy OL the frankly did better than I thought Joe Philbin capable of. Besides Martin it’s a mess. Is Tyron Smith going to be ok or not? 73 shows lots of promise and is mean as fuck. Need a center and a couple more.

Why can’t our WRs get open? Is it the players, or simple routes from Moore that enable LBs to cover CeeDee? Need another stud; Gallup we are stuck with.

Maher has to go. That miss meant something to game strategy the rest of the game. Keeping him was stupid.

Defense. The new DC must protect Parsons and get him back to LB and off the line. Put Diggs in the slot and get two studs and we need a bad ass. Diggs is on a rookie deal. Tell him he needs to go to tackling school or he’ll go somewhere else. He ain’t that good these days.

Change is come if to the D. But 23 can’t be another chapter of the Kellen moore show. Please feel the his ass. We’ve seen his best and it ain’t good enough. Jerry forced McCarthy to keep him as he thought he had his own version of a hotshot new version OC. Instead he drove up to the Ferrari convention with a Karmann-Ghia.

[gmr548 16481]

I wouldn’t be that upset if I was a Cowboy’s fan. The game was closer than most actually expected. They didn’t for once go 8-8 with a top ten talent wise team like they have a lot recently.  Just need to cut Zeke and his contract, get some WR’s, few other parts and the team is in really good shape.  They are far from a rebuild team. It’s kinda like the Aggies of the nfl but they are actually close to winning now and not just talking about it. 

They’re a legit top 6-8 team in the NFL. It’s just that the gap between them and the top 4-5 that are true title contenders is not easily bridged given their roster/cap situation.

[Texzilla58 4716]

Dallas and Buffalo are the same teams in parallel universes. Their boards are full of vitriol for the coaches, Josh Allen, and their Diggs. I’m sure they will be beating on Hamlin too blaming his disruption.

[LTtxfan 48952]

Quinn has done a good job with the Cowboys defense...

[KeysPhoneWallet 807]

We have our answer. Dak is another Kirk cousins. Just good enough to keep the front office from blowing everything up and starting over, but not good enough to actually matter.

[Brew 3045]

53 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I know that Dak was bad and that a lot of the finger pointing will be deservedly aimed at him, but the niners gouged them on the ground in the second half. They bled the clock and Dallas couldn't get off the field. They completely brutalized them. 

They didn’t get gouged or brutalized. The defense did their job outside of Diggs dropping a sure fire INT that turned into 7 and a circus catch by Kittle extending a drive. This is 100% on the offense.

[futureman 22414]

58 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:

Nope. Romo would win big games with this team. Dak is the black Danny white.

Danny went to three straight conference championships.  dak will never do that.

[Brew 3045]

6 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:

Dallas and Buffalo are the same teams in parallel universes. Their boards are full of vitriol for the coaches, Josh Allen, and their Diggs. I’m sure they will be beating on Hamlin too blaming his disruption.

No, they’re not. Buffalo’s D has been decimated by injury and they have no ground game outside of Allen. I’ll take Allen/Diggs over Dak/CeeDee 100 times out of 100.

So many dumb takes in this thread. 

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

5 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Quinn has done a good job with the Cowboys defense...

Defense played fine but if told me the Cowboys defense got zero turnovers against Purdy and 49ers offense I would guess they lose that game 9 out of 10 times.

Thought Purdy would need multiple turnovers for the Cowboys to beat a really good 49ers team on the road.

49ers 15-0 when they don't have multiple turnovers.

[KeysPhoneWallet 807]

(1) fire McCarthy and Moore and promote Dan Quinn.

(2) trade Dak to the jets so Mike white can ride the bench to spite future man

(3) bring in Aaron rogers.

[HamsterHookah 112]

Here is a question to debate:

Would having a healthy OBJ have been a difference maker for this offense and Dak in this game? By all accounts the secondary was the weakness of this defense and we couldn’t get vertical on them….

[markstanco 12501]

11 hours ago, 6th Street said:

Dallas fans being too hard on their team. That game was stressful as fuck. Dak and Lamb are gamers and that front 7 is a pain in the ass. Get a lockdown corner and a safety and they are in the Super Bowl.

[Pig Bellmont 8691]

9 hours ago, Tired Horn said:

I was listening to some of the post-game chatter, and a fair amount of it was how sick the Cowboys should be for squandering "their chance."

I realize fucking Jerry contributes to this by pretending every year is the Cowboy's year, like it's some kind of birth right, but why does everyone else have to play along? It's been 27 years since the Cowboys won a second-round playoff game. Now, I realize Jerry and company have finally assembled a team with decent talent, but based on the record, all that entitles them to is recognition as a potential playoff team next year. They don't belong in any discussion of the NFL elite and won't until they start consistently producing meaningful playoff wins.

But on the plus side, it was amusing to see that last play on multiple replays, with Zeke getting absolutely annihilated as Center.

It was a great defense. Offense just didn’t show up in the biggest game of the year. To have 2 ints and still be in it at half? All defense. It was a wasted shot.

[markstanco 12501]

9 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

I wouldn’t be that upset if I was a Cowboy’s fan. The game was closer than most actually expected. 

No, the opposite happened.  The line was Dallas +3.5 and SF doubled that. 

[Pig Bellmont 8691]

25 minutes ago, Brew said:

circus catch by Kittle

Never mind Diggs going for the big hit on that play instead of playing the ball and whiffing. He sucked

[Nicole44 22027]

We do need new RBs and at least one Big WR. The play that makes me sick is Tampa 2 formation and Dak locks in on Lamb (he knows the damn play he knows who is open and their routes) and he doesn’t look at all to see TY Hilton wide fucking open. That’s a TD. Damn. It’s this shit I am tired of with Dak. The mistakes. A 7 game starter played a mistake free game. Neither QB looked particularly good but I EXPECT more from the 7 year veteran than a 7 start rookie. Yes there were other reasons we lost but Dak was a very big reason. He shouldn’t make these mistakes over and over in the biggest spots and he keeps doing it. 
who knows what JJ will do…probably trade or fire someone who had little to do with why we lost

I like Dak as a person and concede that he plays like a top 10/15 QB most of the time. But we needed him to just not make mistakes and on two or three throws (where he had time to throw because neither QB had a lot of that) was to connect with the WR. Yes we have drops and Shultz made two boneheaded mistakes. We just needed Dak to make throws he should be comfortable making 7 years into it.

Edited January 23, 2023 by Nicole44

[Blotto 23424]

1 hour ago, Texzilla58 said:

Nope. Romo would win big games with this team. Dak is the black Danny white.

Lulz. Romo and Dak have identical playoff records, 2-4. For that matter, their regular season winning percentage is about the same: Dak - 62.8%, Romo - 61.4%. 

[C-Man 27029]

3 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Reality is they should try and offload that contract but Jerry will probably not do that. They really need a number 1 receiver. I think Lamb is really good but he’s not a true number 1. I think Pollard is the type of RB the NFL has shifted too. 

His contract is untradeable. Full stop. Your option is to keep him or cut him and absorb the cap hit.

 

1 hour ago, HamsterHookah said:

After taking some time to think about it.

Defense was fantastic, especially considering injuries, but just ran out of gas at the end. Dan Quinn is that dude.

Micah Parsons is like the Luka of the Cowboys— if we don’t show him we will support his generational talent he will get sour and leave eventually. And he will be justified.

Diggs giveth (2021) and he taketh away (2022). The regressing to the mean hurt because his INT there and breaking up that Kittle pass and we likely win even with a Dak stinker.

Dak is as everyone on here except Koopa can see— an average QB paid like he’s elite. Average QBs can win it all though— we saw that with Matt Stafford (and previously with Brad Johnson and Nick Foles and the list goes on), but not with Dak as he doesn’t limit mistakes.

Holding Deebo and Aiyuk in check most of the game and CMC is good. CMC got going at the end a little bit once the D was gassed and having the 3rd RB give them life with fresh legs was killer.

Punting late in the 4th was dumb. Especially when Dak was dumb and almost got a safety. There was no easy answer but I think you had to go for it on 4th and 10.

Purdy outplayed Dak. Purdy is pretty dang good. I thought he’d choke and crack but the guy seems to have the mental game down. 

Average QB's can win it all -- but not when they command $40M+ a year in salary. They've got to be on team-friendly deals. (And "average" Matt Stafford is likely heading to the HOF.)

[closetohumping 17386]

I disagree that Pollard can't be an RB1.  Zeke isn't horrible, but again, I'm not big on paying running backs big money.  Look at how the Shanahan's have done it?

[HamsterHookah 112]

3 minutes ago, C-Man said:

His contract is untradeable. Full stop. Your option is to keep him or cut him and absorb the cap hit.

 

Average QB's can win it all -- but not when they command $40M+ a year in salary. They've got to be on team-friendly deals. (And "average" Matt Stafford is likely heading to the HOF.)

He's going to the HOF because he got a ring and we put an outsize emphasis on that KPI-- and this ring was because they mortgaged 10 years for the 1 year (not saying that's wrong, but look at the team and financial health a year after winning it all and going 4-14 or whatever).