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Nice Guy Eddie

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3 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

2 episodes in, then i turned something else on.

why has this show turned into a david lynch knockoff the last 2 seasons?

should i even keep going?  my issues with season two are...documented.

At 2 episodes in, you feel like you missed an earlier episode because they haven’t explained the entire back story yet.  Keep going and more becomes clear. 

disclaimer: I haven’t finished the season so no guarantees from me.  I’m skeptical but I’m going to finish it.

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Nivek

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Show has a Westwood arc. The Beau Bridges victorian party trip was stupid and too fucking long.

Dennis Quaid looks weird and out of place.

There were so many silly and stupid decisions it felt like one was watching a walking dead episode with lawyers.


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14 hours ago, Nivek said:


There were so many silly and stupid decisions it felt like one was watching a walking dead episode with lawyers.

 

This. So many stupid decisions, like continuing to stay/work in a shitty indian casino motel room where they had spy cams watching him, had deliberately spiked his drinks with hallucinogens and would probably continue doing so and let's definitely not tell the partner any of this.

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Nice Guy Eddie

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Liked the return of a William Hurt but his younger girlfriend attorney no where to be seen.

i never fully understood the casino mgrs daughter and her role in the story.  And all of the storylines seemed to get wrapped up in the last 30 seconds with little lead in to the final outcomes.

And not enough Tania Raymonde. Hopefully any future seasons go back to more courtroom drama as I think those scenes are usually the best.

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Kyle

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Realize a little late the the party but Kung Fu Fighting will make you dig deep. Loved season one. Skipped season two on Shag's advice. Fighting through season three.

Not sure I've ever seen a series take such a left turn after a great first season. I am even having a gummy and Jameson and still can figure out what the fuck is going on with season three and the weird flash forwards / backs / crows / etc.

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Maybe I'll go back. I started it last year and was never interested enough to go back to it. They've made Nina Arianda totally unlikeable where she used to be a fun cross of hostile and human. There are other, better things on the list, but Billy Bob is one of the most interesting actors to watch today. In these plague days, I'm sure we'll be burning through more TV.

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Harrison Bergeron

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So I came across this and watched seasons one and two. I think I must have started season one a while ago - I remember a few things like Brittany and the bar but did not recall the story. I thought it was entertaining, and I could watch Billy Bob Thornton or Tania Raymonde anytime. Not sure if I have the energy for season three. The most annoying things for me were the MacGuffin's and other stupid actions.

Season one:

  • How, when, or why was Cooperman burned?
  • Why does he hate Billy?
  • The defense was uber confident in its case until the end - it really needed to kill the plaintiff?
  • Why even do the fake suicide and just say there was a fault boat and pay the widow and kids $10M?
  • Dwight Yoakum is going to just spill everything randomly and McBride can magically turn on a recorder without him noticing?

Season two:

  • What's the relationship between Gabriel and Marisol? - for a few minutes I thought she actually was the kingpin and he was just an "actor"
  • Why does world's greatest drug dealer have to suddenly leave town? Was that just a "movie set" - why? She should have just taken him to Oaxaca and claimed she was from there but everyone she knew is gone.
  • Who was the "middle" guy - forget his name but the cop's best friend - just some random middle man between him and Wyatt? 
  • These guys can kill a kid in prison but can't take out a random errand guy without some complicated frame job?
  • WTF kill Lou Diamond Phillips? It is not like parental alibis are uber credible on their own.
  • The magical super agent lawyer that went crazy knows everything?

Fun pulp but so many loose ends. I've overthinking it but it could have been really good if some basic plot points passed the common sense test.

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Prepuce of Doom

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We finished it last night. I agree with a lot of the criticisms, but they stopped bothering me once I realized in earlier seasons that there's no point in thoroughly "logic checking" the various plot developments and devices. However, I will add that the courtroom scenes (especially the judge) in S4 are laughably unrealistic. 

Overall, we really liked the more Chinatown/noir-ish/Lynchian tone of S3 and S4. The dream sequences and one-off "hallucination" scenes (not technically accurate, but viewers will know what I'm referring to) were especially entertaining little vignettes. 

Patty Solis-Papagian deserves a spinoff. 

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TwiceHorn

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I thought season 3 was much more incoherent than season 2 and damn near unwatchable.  I enjoyed season 1, although it was far from perfect.  S2 was a big step down but still better than 3.  I saw David E. Kelley's name in the credits in S1 and could feel his fingerprints all over it, not so in 2 or 3.

I came to the thread to see if I could figure out whether to go forward with S4 or not without spoiling it.  Looks like I should, good job surl.  Thanks.

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TwiceHorn

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On 10/8/2021 at 10:51 AM, Prepuce of Doom said:

We finished it last night. I agree with a lot of the criticisms, but they stopped bothering me once I realized in earlier seasons that there's no point in thoroughly "logic checking" the various plot developments and devices. However, I will add that the courtroom scenes (especially the judge) in S4 are laughably unrealistic. 

Overall, we really liked the more Chinatown/noir-ish/Lynchian tone of S3 and S4. The dream sequences and one-off "hallucination" scenes (not technically accurate, but viewers will know what I'm referring to) were especially entertaining little vignettes. 

Patty Solis-Papagian deserves a spinoff. 

Actually, of the courtroom parts, the judge was one of the more realistic aspects.

Beth Grant is pretty fantastic.  Within the realm of older lady parts, she is a chameleon.

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Nearly every aspect of the courtroom scenes were terrifically unrealistic (and that's fine - the show clearly takes place in a parallel universe separate from our own), but I don't think any judge would have allowed that level ongoing shenanigans to pass with nothing more than a repetitive series of "I'm going to keep my eyes on you" half-assed "warnings." 

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On 12/13/2021 at 8:16 PM, Brandywine said:

Best season was season 1. For me it lost something after that and wasn’t anywhere near as good as the first season. 

Yep.  Just finished season 4 which was better than 3 but that’s not saying much.  Best was season 1 and went downhill fast.

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