Tender Age Shelters

[Brisketexan 105,371]

Sadly these assholes forgot they are the offspring of immigrants. 

We should remind them. They already built the cages, we oughta our em there. I mean, they’re like summer camp, I doubt they’d complain.

[Biff Tannen 45,742]

5 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Since when do you give a shit about Central America?  

 

5 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Since I grew up there and go back about 2-3 times a year to El Salvador. Place is more dangerous than it was during the Civil War. 

Oh...well...nevermind then.  Right ChickenSandwich?

[JimmyJames 12,271]

So anyway today is Sunday. Has the trump administration killed anymore immigrant kids today? Or is it just another day of your regular old psychological and sexual abuse today. 

[ChickenSandwich 9,853]

On 8/4/2018 at 3:15 PM, Biff Tannen said:

 

Oh...well...nevermind then.  Right ChickenSandwich?

Having all of the best they have to offer abandon the country as a long term solution screams “Central American Reform”. 

Instead of spreading democracy and diplomacy the plan has shifted to conceding the country to local terrorist and abandon ship. 

How on Earth are the conditions in these locations ever supposed to improve?  Who is left to fight for them?  How does a mass exit of “good hardworking people” help those left making up the population?  Fuck them?  

You are right Biff. “Never mind” seems incredibly appropriate when talking about Central America these days. 

[Pancho 45,011]

 

[kopp0e 1,135]

I hope this stuff isn't going on in the "tender" camps as well... Here is a story out of of nowhere:

 

Quote

 

Police officer, 48, who filmed himself raping a baby girl is ... - Daily Mail

www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Police-officer-48-filmed-raping-baby-girl-jailed-16-years.html

2 days ago - PC Dean Roberts, 48, formerly of South Wales Police, filmed himself abusing the ... declares states of emergency ahead of this weekend's one-year anniversary ... A vile police officer was jailed for 16 years for raping a baby - after being ... Guess - who was a senior lawyer advising the Welsh Government on ...

 

 

[Gil Bang 26,032]

 

[J.R. 150]

I would like to see that Elf ordered to a show cause hearing. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

 

[retread 2,951]

Quote

When one of his abusive mother's gangbanger friends held a gun to his chest and threatened to pull the trigger, Nolbiz Orellana knew he'd die in Honduras. So this past January, the then-17-year-old made the harrowing journey to the U.S.-Mexico border, crossed over, and asked for asylum.

Instead of releasing him to his relatives in Nebraska, though, the feds sent him to the Homestead Temporary Shelter for Unaccompanied Children. Orellana spent three months in the remote South Miami-Dade facility until April 8 — his birthday.

That's when Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents showed up at the children's shelter, slapped handcuffs on Orellana's wrists, chained them to his waist, and shackled his legs together. The agents drove Orellana to the Broward Transitional Center, an infamous immigration jail in Pompano Beach, where he was thrown into a cell with men twice his age.

Orellana's saga isn't just shocking — it's also illegal, say Miami immigration attorneys who have succeeded in forcing ICE to release several other 18 year olds in recent months. Even worse, they say what happened to the Guatemalan refugee seems to have become ICE's national policy.

"When they turn 18, it's basically, 'Happy birthday,' and then they slap on handcuffs and take them off to adult detention centers," says Lisa Lehner, an attorney with the nonprofit Americans for Immigrant Justice who is representing Orellana.

Since April, at least 14 children at the Homestead center have been handcuffed on their 18th birthdays and taken to a jail cell in Broward, Lehner says. And at least one of those kids had been separated from his father under the Trump administration's since-abandoned policy to rip apart families that crossed the border together.

Lehner and her colleagues have filed seven lawsuits since early July on behalf of those 18-year-old immigrants. In five of those cases, ICE has quickly released the immigrants to relatives or guardians while their cases work through the courts. (Two cases are still pending, and Lehner expects to file several more in the coming weeks.)

 

Edited August 23, 2018 by retread

[GSU&UT 1,798]

^^^

"I'm completely fine with this. These kids shouldn't have chosen to be born to poor brown non-Americans." - Single Issue Pro-Life Voters

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4782070/8-23-18-Ms-L-Status-Report.pdf

[HenryJames 66,182]

 

[atomheartbevo 89,808]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/28/us/texas-ice-child-death/index.html

Quote

Yazmin Juarez, 20, and her 18-month-old daughter, Mariee, were detained at a facility in Dilley, Texas, "with unsafe conditions, neglectful medical care, and inadequate supervision," according to her law firm in a statement.

Shortly after they arrived at the South Texas Family Residential Center in March, Mariee contracted a respiratory infection that her lawyers at the firm of Arnold & Porter allege "went woefully under-treated for nearly a month."

Officials in Texas say they are investigating the case, and Immigrations and Customs Enforcement officials did not respond to specific allegations made by Juarez and her lawyers.

Juarez and Mariee, who came from Guatemala, were detained by ICE on March 1 after crossing into the US via the Rio Grande. She sought asylum and the two ended up at the Texas facility, for almost three weeks, according to the law firm. 

At the facility, Mariee became increasingly ill, according to a timeline of events released by the lawyers. Juarez repeatedly sought health care for her daughter, but didn't get the intensive medical treatment she sought and was prescribed various medication that didn't improve her daughter's condition, according to the timeline.

Quote

At the facility, Mariee became increasingly ill, according to a timeline of events released by the lawyers. Juarez repeatedly sought health care for her daughter, but didn't get the intensive medical treatment she sought and was prescribed various medication that didn't improve her daughter's condition, according to the timeline. 

After they were released from the facility, Juarez and Mariee flew to New Jersey where her mother lives, and sought medical attention there the next day. Mariee was hospitalized for respiratory failure for six weeks and died at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia on May 10, according to Juarez's lawyers.

Quote

Juarez sought medical treatment for her daughter on March 11 -- six days after they arrived at the Dilley facility -- according to her attorneys. The toddler was prescribed Tylenol after a diagnosis of acute upper respiratory infection. 

But her lawyers say Mariee's symptoms became worse, losing weight, vomiting as well as developing fever and diarrhea. During their nearly three weeks at the facility, Juarez sought medical attention for Mariee at least five times, according to her attorneys. During her time there, Mariee received various other diagnoses that included acute bronchiolitis and an ear infection.

Quote

"After it became clear that Mariee was gravely ill, ICE simply discharged mother and daughter. Yazmin immediately sought medical care for her baby, but it was too late. Mariee died following six agonizing weeks in the hospital after leaving Dilley," according to her lawyers.

THere are probably plenty of smug Republicans who have no problem with this.  Many of them will even pretend to be Christian. 

[WhatTheBuck 28,800]

Sounds similar to how N. Korea handled Otto Warmbier. 

[Brisketexan 105,371]

On 8/25/2018 at 2:10 PM, HenryJames said:

 

 

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/28/us/texas-ice-child-death/index.html

THere are probably plenty of smug Republicans who have no problem with this.  Many of them will even pretend to be Christian. 

History will never forgive us.

Nor should it.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

The Trump administration said Thursday it is preparing to circumvent limits on the government’s ability to hold minors in immigration jails by withdrawing from the Flores Settlement Agreement, the federal consent decree that has shaped detention standards for underage migrants since 1997.

The maneuver is almost certain to land the administration back in court, where U.S. District Court Judge Dolly M. Gee, who oversees the agreement, has rejected attempts to extend the amount of time migrant children can be held with their parents beyond the current limit of 20 days. 

But under changes proposed Thursday by the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Health and Human Services, the administration said it would issue new regulations that “satisfy the basic purpose” of the Flores settlement and ensure migrant children “are treated with dignity, respect and special concern for their particular vulnerability as minors.”

“Today, legal loopholes significantly hinder the Department’s ability to appropriately detain and promptly remove family units that have no legal basis to remain in the country,” said DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, in a statement. “This rule addresses one of the primary pull factors for illegal immigration and allows the federal government to enforce immigration laws as passed by Congress.”

The proposal sets up a new immigration battle in court, and comes less than three months after the Trump administration’s short-lived attempt to halt an increase in illegal migration by separating children from parents who entered unlawfully. The practice was widely condemned and forced the administration to reverse course and regroup.

Thursday’s proposed changes amount to the administration’s new attempt to eliminate what it views as major obstacles to effective immigration enforcement. Homeland Security officials say the limits on detaining families have effectively sent a message to would-be migrants that any parent who brings a child can expect to be quickly released from custody after entering the country illegally.

 The changes proposed by the administration would allow U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to expand its family detention facilities in order to keep parents and children together in custody for lengthier periods. ICE currently has three such facilities, which it calls “family residential centers,” with a combined capacity of about 3,500 beds. 

But those facilities are almost always full, and the limitations on child detention under the Flores settlement have been a disincentive to build more. The settlement also mandates that children can only be held in licensed facilities, and the government has struggled to find states willing to do so. 

While states typically license child-care facilities, none currently issues licenses to family detention centers.

According to the changes proposed Thursday, the government will ensure new detention facilities meet current standards, “as evaluated by a third-party entity engaged by ICE.” The announcement does not indicate who the third party would be.

Homeland Security officials say that will ensure that those families, many of whom are Central Americans seeking asylum, appear in immigration court.

The Trump administration said Thursday’s proposed changes would also “formalize” the way Health and Human Services cares for migrant children in its custody. The agency oversees a network of about 100 shelters for underage migrants who arrive without a parent or who have been separated. But in recent months allegations of mistreatment and sexual abuse at several shelters have emerged, and HHS has been sharply criticized for not keeping better track of children   after they are released to family members or other approved “sponsors.”

The administration's plans to lift limits on child detention is likely to trigger new legal challenges and could revive still-simmering anger over the Trump administration’s separation of 2,600 migrant children from their parents under a border crackdown this spring. As of last week, more than 500 children were still in federal custody without their parents. 

The 1997 Flores Settlement Agreement resulted from a class-action lawsuit over the treatment of migrant children in federal custody. 

The proposed regulations would not take effect immediately. Publishing them in the Federal Register triggers a 60-day period for public comments. Then, advocates say, the Flores counsel who represents all migrant children in federal custody would have 45 days to challenge those regulations in court.

The proposal comes weeks after the Trump administration failed to obtain permission to detain children for unspecified periods of time from Judge Gee in Los Angeles.

Justice Department lawyers had asked for permission to detain children and parents together until their cases are adjudicated, a process that can take months.

In July, Gee sharply rebuked the Justice Department's request, calling it “a cynical attempt, on an ex parte basis, to shift responsibility to the judiciary for over 20 years of congressional inaction and ill-considered executive action that have led to the current stalemate.”

Advocates say the Trump administration has the authority to create regulations to replace the court agreement, but they worry that officials will ignore the substantive protections in its quest to deport immigrants. 

In August, the mother of a Guatemalan toddler filed a claim alleging the little girl died in May as a result of negligent medical care while detained with hundreds of other families in Texas.

“The Trump administration is seeking to expand its power to jail families for longer in worse conditions and lock up children indefinitely in unlicensed and inhumane facilities,” said Ai-jen Poo, director of the National Domestic Workers Alliance, in a news conference last month. 

“We're talking about an administration that intentionally and forcibly separated children from their parents knowing the torment and trauma that would cause and we're now allowing them to set a new standard ... of care for immigrant children.”

[Ghost of LL 15,541]

The administration has left behind the shackles of the law.  It is now an outlaw regime, and ought to be treated as such.

[retread 2,951]

I hope karma catches up with the SOBs in the administration who are responsible for this.

[kevwun 15,919]

And by karma, I mean the gallows.

[Ghost of LL 15,541]

Just now, kevwun said:

And by karma, I mean the gallows.

Yeah--this is kidnapping, pure and simple.  And "I was just following orders" is not a valid defense.  

But we shouldn't be satisfied with prosecuting Lt. Calley.  We need to go to the top.  Nielsen needs to swing for this.

[MissingInAction 25,193]

Trump is creating an entire new generation of terrorists right in our backyard.

[HenryJames 66,182]

 

[lemonlime 5,503]

Sidestep?  WTF.  They decided to ignore the judiciary.  And nothing will happen to them. (And because they want to kidnap children and put them in concentration camps)  Brisket's right.  The country is over.

[Brisketexan 105,371]

1 hour ago, lemonlime said:

Sidestep?  WTF.  They decided to ignore the judiciary.  And nothing will happen to them. (And because they want to kidnap children and put them in concentration camps)  Brisket's right.  The country is over.

When a court seeks to have its orders enforced by having US Marshals dispatched, and they end up in a showdown with ICE agents......that'll be an interesting day.  I mean, as a footnote to history, which will be focused on how an empire turns upon itself and destroys itself in a paroxysm of hubris and stupidity.

[fattyflattie 4,638]

On 8/28/2018 at 6:57 AM, atomheartbevo said:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/28/us/texas-ice-child-death/index.html

THere are probably plenty of smug Republicans who have no problem with this.  Many of them will even pretend to be Christian. 

Godammit.  This shit is pushing me into Briskets corner. 

[retread 2,951]

Quote

One 16-year-old from Guatemala said he wanted to “quitarme la vida,” or “take my life away,” as he waited to be released from a Chicago shelter for immigrant children. He was kept there for at least 584 days.

A 17-year-old from Guinea went on a hunger strike, telling staff members he refused to eat until he saw evidence they were trying to find him a home. He was released nearly nine months after he entered a shelter.

And a 10-month-old boy, forcibly separated from his father at the U.S.-Mexico border in March, was bitten repeatedly by an older child and later hospitalized after falling from a highchair. He was detained for five months.

In Chicago alone, 27 children who were in Heartland’s care during the month of July — including several from India, Guatemala and Nepal — had been held for 200 days or more, records show. A 17-year-old from Honduras had been in custody the longest: 598 days.

“It’s traumatic to have this indefinite detention,” said Emily Ruehs-Navarro, an assistant professor of sociology at Elmhurst College near Chicago who has studied shelters for unaccompanied immigrant children. “It’s a vicious cycle where the longer kids stay, the more trauma is compounded on their situation.”

Children — many of whom are reeling from the trauma of rape, violence or other abuse in their home countries or during their treks to the United States — languish as caseworkers try to find sponsors and persuade them to undergo background checks. Those without relatives or family friends in the U.S. remain in custody even longer, sometimes rejected by long-term foster care programs already filled to capacity.

As caseworkers try to find placements, the older teens live in fear of turning 18. Records show that immigration officials, almost without fail, arrive on the children’s birthdays to take them into custody.

 

[Brisketexan 105,371]

15 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Godammit.  This shit is pushing me into Briskets corner. 

Welcome.  By now, we have a large assortment of whiskey types available.

Oh, and you'll RUN to my ledge when you realize that 1) outcomes like this are not a bug, but a FEATURE of the system this admin has implemented, and 2) a sizable percentage of his supporters LIKE that it is a feature.  Because hey, you gotta teach these folks not to come up here, and if it takes their kids dying, well, isn't that really their fault for bringing them?

We have become that evil country that we all used to make fun of when we watched old movies.  And we are HAPPY about it - we did this by CHOICE.

[retread 2,951]

It wasn't an accident that it happened. It was a sadistic choice to inflict pain on these immigrant children and their parents. The only mistake for the WH was getting caught.

[wildcat09 29,407]

If we can't take power back from these assholes and put a stop to this, we'll deserve some Sodom and Gomorrah type biblical destruction.

[fattyflattie 4,638]

Brisket, we still have a very large gap there, I am certain of that. 

But no, kids should not be mistreated or  die here while being gathered to be sent back.  I think you are vastly overestimating the amount of people who are “applauding” this. 

[Brisketexan 105,371]

Brisket, we still have a very large gap there, I am certain of that. 
But no, kids should not be mistreated or  die here while being gathered to be sent back.  I think you are vastly overestimating the amount of people who are “applauding” this. 

The people in charge of our country are.

That’s enough to render us shittacular.

[retread 2,951]

The story has almost completely dropped out of the news. If people cared, there would have been action. Tacit Trumpkin approval of putting children in cages and taking them to prison on their 18th birthday.

[atomheartbevo 89,808]

1 hour ago, retread said:

The story has almost completely dropped out of the news. If people cared, there would have been action. Tacit Trumpkin approval of putting children in cages and taking them to prison on their 18th birthday.

This should be one of the top stories the Dems are pushing ahead of the midterms - would help bring out women and Hispanics.

[Chad Fuck 17,786]

On 9/7/2018 at 11:50 PM, atomheartbevo said:

This should be one of the top stories the Dems are pushing ahead of the midterms - would help bring out women and Hispanics.

This.  

But regardless of the politicization of the issue for midterms - we shouldn't be (a) locking kids in cages separate from their parents; and (b) we should be obeying court orders.  

I can't believe we have to say that.

 

[MissingInAction 25,193]

Jfc I actually know people, family unfortunately, whose response to me bringing this atrocity up is ,"Don't drink the kool aid." As if its all made up to make their cult of personality look bad.

Fucking christ have mercy on us all.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

14 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

Jfc I actually know people, family unfortunately, whose response to me bringing this atrocity up is ,"Don't drink the kool aid." As if its all made up to make their cult of personality look bad.

Fucking christ have mercy on us all.

 

This is the same way Holocaust deniers get started. 

 

[Brisketexan 105,371]

This is the same way Holocaust deniers get started. 
 

We’re beyond “getting started.”

[Skyline 325]

 

[Foosters 17,889]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/12/us/migrant-children-detention.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

 

Quote

Population levels at federally contracted shelters for migrant children have quietly shot up more than fivefold since last summer, according to data obtained by The New York Times, reaching a total of 12,800 this month. There were 2,400 such children in custody in May 2017.

The huge increases, which have placed the federal shelter system near capacity, are due not to an influx of children entering the country, but a reduction in the number being released to live with families and other sponsors, the data collected by the Department of Health and Human Services suggests. Some of those who work in the migrant shelter network say the bottleneck is straining both the children and the system that cares for them.

 

[Pancho 45,011]

 

[Jomac0928 76]

15 minutes ago, Pancho Negro said:

 

What. The. Fuck.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

3 minutes ago, Jomac0928 said:

What. The. Fuck.

This is who we are now.  Monsters.

Incompetent monsters.

Time to do another congressional hearing on Hillary’s emails.

[retread 2,951]

Quote

The Department of Health and Human Services is diverting millions of dollars in funding from a number of programs, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the National Institutes of Health, to pay for housing for the growing population of detained immigrant children.

In a letter sent to Sen. Patty Murray, D.-Wash., and obtained by Yahoo News, HHS Secretary Alex Azar outlined his plan to reallocate up to $266 million in funding for the current fiscal year, which ends on Sept. 30, to the Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC) program in the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR).

Nearly $80 million of that money will come from other refugee support programs within ORR, which have seen their needs significantly diminished as the Trump administration makes drastic cuts to the annual refugee numbers. The rest is being taken from other programs, including $16.7 million from Head Start, $5.7 million from the Ryan White HIV/AIDS program and $13.3 million from the National Cancer Institute. Money is also being diverted from programs dedicated to mental and maternal health, women’s shelters and substance abuse. 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-immigrant-children-detention-hhs-cuts-funds-programs-like-cancer-research-230259583.html

[Brisketexan 105,371]

So, we’re literally taking money from things like education and healthcare...to fund child prisons.

That makes perfect sense. I mean, if you’re trying to be pure evil, you have to take some serious steps. I admire the commitment.

[gsoda3 3,283]

has anyone found an actionable way to help?  anyone found a way to volunteer time at these shelters?  i know southwest key is in austin but no dice there.  at least not for a random guy calling in to ask.  this is absolutely sick.

[gsoda3 3,283]

3 hours ago, Pancho Negro said:

 

fortunately it's not as bad as the headline would suggest.

 

Quote

"As communicated to members of Congress multiple times, these children are not ‘lost,'" Caitlin Oakley, a spokeswoman for HHS, said in a statement to the Times.

"Their sponsors — who are usually parents or family members and in all cases have been vetted for criminality and ability to provide for them — simply did not respond or could not be reached when this voluntary call was made.”

The findings regarding the amount of children HHS can't account for comes after the department said in April that it could not account for 1,475 immigrant children that had been transferred out of federal shelters earlier this year. 

this story was actually out before the summer started. 

 

Quote

No, they are most likely not 'missing'

When it comes to children, phrases like "unable to determine whereabouts" never inspire comfort, especially when people assume it is as a result of a child being ripped from their families. But the reality is a little different.

There could be a lot of reasons for why the 1,475 children were unaccounted for, Ward says.

"The sponsors may be undocumented themselves, they may change their phone number," she says. "The requirement is just a phone call -- you don't necessarily have to go (check on the child) physically, although some do."

Wagner, too, defended his original claim by saying that sponsors who are "illegal aliens" probably "do not want to be reached by federal authorities."

In a conference call with reporters organized by the White House on Tuesday, Wagner said the 30-day check-in phone calls in those cases simply weren't answered. He compared the outcry over the "lost" children to calling a friend and, when they don't answer, assuming they were kidnapped.

In reality, he said, many of the adults may also be undocumented.

"You can imagine that many of those would not choose to speak to a federal official calling them on the phone," Wagner said. "But there's no reason to believe that anything has happened to the kids."

 

 

[retread 2,951]

Quote

Washington (CNN)Federal officers have arrested dozens of immigrants who came forward to take care of immigrant children in government custody, and the Trump administration is pledging to go after more.

The news will serve as confirmation of the worst fears of immigrants and their advocates: that a recent move by President Donald Trump's administration to more fully vet people who come forward to care for undocumented immigrant children who are alone in the US has been a way for the administration to track down and arrest more undocumented immigrants.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/20/politics/ice-arrested-immigrants-sponsor-children/index.html

[Chad Fuck 17,786]

Using children as bait.

Stay classy America.

[wildcat09 29,407]

I hope there's a room reserved in the deepest level of hell for the members of this administration.