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There were suspicions he was tipping pitches while he was in his swoon.  The velocity, spin rates, release points were all very similar during his first half and the stretch where he was getting worked.  Tipping pitches makes sense.

What I don’t get is how every team a guy faces knows his “tell”, but no one in his own organization or otherwise close to him can figure it out?

Edit: just read the link. Nm. He’s just shitty at not grinning at being dealt 4 aces.

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If only statcast had the technology to measure the launch angle and exit velocity of yankee balls that have been hit off of your chin.

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On 10/11/2018 at 5:06 PM, Scraps said:

Man I thought Bill Hall off the bat with no clues.  Never played for LAD though.  

They were just talking about Randy Wolf's brother being on the ump crew for the NLCS.  Randy pitched for all but the Red Sox.

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2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I guess buster thinks goldy isn’t any better than Moreland?

Yeah, that's a strange comment.  Unless I'm missing one, the Cubs and Braves are the only teams that made the playoffs this year where he wouldn't be a huge upgrade.  If he's really on the block there will be plenty of suitors.

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On 10/14/2018 at 4:37 PM, Beau Vine said:

"most contenders are locked in at 1b."  wtf?  is that english?  what does that even mean??

"the cubs have rizzo, for example".  ohhhhhh.  now i get it since you included the example.  thanks, buster.

it's been a rough few days without the yankees in the news.  thank god we have tweets like this to keep us honest.  remember when bird was a better prospect than judge?

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The Miami Marlins won county permission on Tuesday to move its home run sculpture out of Marlins Park to the plaza outside, giving Derek Jeter a key win in his efforts to erase the legacy of former owner Jeffrey Loria.

The sculptor behind “Homer,” New York’s Red Grooms, opposed moving the seven-story piece of public art, saying he designed it under a $2.5 million contract with Miami-Dade County specifically for its home in center field. The sculpture whirrs to life whenever the Marlins hit a home run, sending mechanical Marlins spinning during a cycle timed to end once the typical base runner makes it to home plate.

After buying the team with partners from Loria last year for $1.2 billion, Jeter sent word he wasn’t a fan of the county-owned sculpture and wanted it gone. The new Marlins front office has plans for a multi-story spectator area there designed for a new standing-room-only ticket that will sell for as little as $10. In its new location outside, “Homer” will still turn on for home runs, as well as at the end of every home win and every day at 3:05 p.m., an homage to Miami’s original area code.

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Kyle McLaughlin aiming a cell phone into Cleveland’s dugout during the Indians’ 11-3 ALDS loss that ended their season.
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HOUSTON – The Boston Red Sox were warned that a man credentialed by the Houston Astros might try to steal signs or information from their dugout after the Cleveland Indians caught him taking pictures of their dugout with a cellphone camera during Game 3 of the American League Division Series, sources with knowledge of the situation told Yahoo Sports.

A photograph obtained by Yahoo Sports showed a man named Kyle McLaughlin aiming a cell phone into Cleveland’s dugout during the Indians’ 11-3 loss that ended their season. McLaughlin was the same man caught taking pictures near the Red Sox’s dugout during Game 1 of the AL Championship Series, which was first reported by the Metro Times. McLaughlin was removed by security in Cleveland and Boston, sources said.

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While McLaughlin is not listed publicly as an Astros employee, photographs on his Instagram account show him wearing an Astros ID badge as he posed for a picture in 2016 with Astros owner Jim Crane. In another photo, McLaughlin is standing next to a private plane with logos for the Astros and two companies owned by Crane, Crane Worldwide Logistics and Crane Capital Group. McLaughlin removed “Houston Astros” from his biography on his Instagram page Tuesday night.

It was the culmination of a series of events that cast aspersions on the defending World Series champions, who have been accused of cheating by at least one other organization this season, sources told Yahoo Sports. Major League Baseball, which was made aware of McLaughlin taking the photograph in the Indians’ dugout before the ALCS, declined comment. An Astros spokesman did not respond to a request for comment. McLaughlin did not respond to messages left on two social-media accounts.

MLB significantly beefed up its security presence at Game 3 on Tuesday, according to a league source with knowledge of its staff, sending three people from its baseball-operations office and another six security personnel to monitor the game. The league stationed an employee in each of the teams’ video-review rooms, according to the source. The paranoia among teams, the source said, “is like the NFL these days. Every club thinks the other club is cheating.”

This is not the first investigation into the Astros’ attempts to gain competitive advantages this season, three sources told Yahoo Sports. During a late-August game against Oakland, A’s players noticed Astros players clapping in the dugout before pitches and believed they were relaying stolen signs to pitchers in the batter’s box, sources said. The A’s called the league, which said it would investigate the matter. It’s unclear what the result of the investigation was or whether it remains ongoing.

Two major league players said they have witnessed the Astros hitting a trash can in the dugout in recent years and believe it is a way to relay signals to hitters. The Los Angeles Dodgers also believed the Astros were stealing signs during the World Series last season, according to two sources.

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MLB has attempted and failed to corroborate such accounts, the league source said. Other teams, the source said, have been accused of similar actions. The Red Sox were fined last season for using an Apple Watch in a sign-stealing scheme against the New York Yankees.

Teams around the league are perhaps more wary of the Astros than any team, fearful that their employment of cameras – they use high-speed models made by Edgertronic to help evaluate players, according to sources – allows them to steal signs. MLB has not punished the Astros for any illegal behavior, sources told Yahoo Sports.

When asked about the Metro Times report after Boston’s 8-2 victory to take a 2-1 lead in the ALCS, Astros manager A.J. Hinch said: “I’m aware of something going on, but I haven’t been briefed. I’m worried about the game.” Asked about McLaughlin being caught near their dugout, Red Sox president Dave Dombrowski told Yahoo Sports that “It’s in MLB’s hands now” and declined further comment.

Congrats to the Astros on becoming the Patriots.  

Seriously, I wonder if this little turd is Crane's best friend's kid, and Crane is just letting him live the dream by giving him field access.

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On 10/14/2018 at 6:37 PM, Beau Vine said:

 

Not gonna lie, this is the one trade that would really kill me.  

I wouldn’t worry about that. The main word right now is that Machado will play 3rd and Andujar will be moved to 1st. We will take all your finest Patrick Corbins though.

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10 minutes ago, huge said:

He needs to unbutton his jacket before taking that pic.

Obviously just a pawn in the game of life.

Luhnow is smart as fuck, and he's not employing that clown (who has/had a wide-open Instagram account with a username of "krockin") to generate valuable intelligence for the Astros.  

If this were the Patriots, I'd be about 120% sure that this idiot is just a diversion to distract everyone away from the guy who's really cheating.

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11 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Image result for astros trophy

Also, the guy who roots for a team that had minor leaguers sexually assaulting their teammates should probably stay out of the franchise trash talk game.

Lmao if you think thats remotely close to the moral lapses the Astros have suffered in the last 12 months. 

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20 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/mlb/2018/10/18/17994256/astros-cheating-spying-red-sox-indians-mlb-playoffs-2018

 

From the same writer:

https://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2018/10/17/17986646/astros-dugout-photographer-red-sox-indians-athletics-mlb-playoffs

It’s worth pointing out that every team is paranoid right now, and it’s probably because they’re all also guilty. The Astros aren’t alone in cheating, not by a long shot. They are, however, the latest to have their cheating stupidly blow up in their faces in public, like Boston with the Apple Watch gambit a year ago. All MLB seems to want to do is sweep this news under the rug whenever it happens: they know there is cheating, and they don’t care. They just want it to all happen more quietly and with less notice.

Is that fine? Probably! As Alex Cora said, hitters want pitchers to have control, so they don’t care about pine tar or sunscreen. Everyone is stealing signs, and that’s just gamesmanship: you’re just not supposed to use technology or undercover “media” outside of the dugout to do so. Cheat smarter, y’all.

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1 hour ago, Guadaloopy said:

AJ Hinch was terrible in Arizona.  

Ausmus is a great baseball mind.  I’d wish him success, but he is in the AL West now.  

Fair point. He made some poor decisions in Detroit though. The 2014 Tigers were a god damn powerhouse on paper. Rotation was Scherzer, JV, Porcello, Price in the 2nd half, and Anibal with a lineup that had Miggy, JDM, Kinsler, Victor Martinez, Torii  Hunter, AJax...he managed that roster to only 90 wins and a first round sweep, in large part cause he couldn’t manage a bullpen. Obviously not all on the manager, but not a great look.

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