2018 MLB Thread

[huge 3826]

Exactly. If they hang a banner no one will care.

[spystud13 2371]

 

 

[Sbbruin 22087]

Dodgers HAVE to be the odds on favorite for the NL pennant.  The AL is beastly, b7t we have to be the fav to get to the WS.

[spystud13 2371]

They’re tied with the Cubs @ 3/1 now. 5/8 to win the West, that’s a # you don’t see often. 

[shnsajax 3605]

Exactly. If they hang a banner no one will care.

[TheFlagship 466]

8 hours ago, spystud13 said:

 

 

Turners wife seems nice

[Trey3216 15450]

12 hours ago, Scraps said:

Good luck prying #13 away from Maximus Muncy!

Muncy actually gave him the #.   Kenly Jansen supposedly raising a tip fund for Muncy for being a badass and giving the # away 

[Scraps 13748]

51 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

Muncy actually gave him the #.   Kenly Jansen supposedly raising a tip fund for Muncy for being a badass and giving the # away 

Well isn't that cute

[Horny Bull 2766]

 

[TheFlagship 466]

Adam Cimber too who has a 51/7 k/bb rate in 48.1 innings.

This is going to be a haul for SD I think.

[TheFlagship 466]

Mejia to SD. The padres now have 3 of Keith Law’s top 6 prospects (Tatis, Mejia, Gore)

[shnsajax 3605]

15 minutes ago, TheFlagship said:

Mejia to SD. The padres now have 3 of Keith Law’s top 6 prospects (Tatis, Mejia, Gore)

Good haul indeed. Indians never seem to mind paying big for relief pitchers, especially when they are not rentals.

[txhorns 2421]

Remember when everyone was writing the Dodgers off in April due to injuries and a very slow start? 

[Beau Vine 55835]

I have said this before -- I think Mejia is going to be a perennial All-Star.

This is a huge return for a relief pitcher that our resident expert thinks is overrated.

 

Edited July 19, 2018 by Beau Vine

[Sbbruin 22087]

I think the Injuns know their window is short (see KC).  Push it all in and see what happens.

[Vic Mackey 47850]

33 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

I think the Injuns know their window is short (see KC).  Push it all in and see what happens.

Agreed. Their run is going to be similar to that of KC and the Tigers. Few years of being contenders and then will fall off. Quickly. 

[TheFlagship 466]

Lindor and Ramirez are under team control through 2022 though. Plus the Indians are a well run org (9th most wins in MLB since 2000), so I don’t see this as pushing in the chips for one run.

[henrygandorf 29223]

kluber, bauer, carrasco are also controlled for 2-3 more seasons as well.  it's only the back end of their bullpen that's about to be gone, and that's probably ok with indians fans right now.  doesn't seem like a short run/fall off a cliff situation.

[txhorns 2421]

Problem is they won't be able to resign all of Lindor, Ramirez, Kluber, Bauer, Carrasco and others.  So while their current window certainly isn't just a year it's most definitely 3-4 years.  At which point they will have to rebuild.  Their rebuild won't be a Cubs, Astros or Miami type rebuild but I doubt they are competing for anything in 5 years.

[DanRydell 799]

So I guess Kyle Tucker wasn't an insane ask after all

[TheFlagship 466]

1 minute ago, DanRydell said:

So I guess Kyle Tucker wasn't an insane ask after all

Difference is Mejia is blocked by Gomes who is a solid catcher in his own right.

Tucker isn’t blocked by anyone. I think Astros fans would’ve been furious to give him up for 2 relievers.

[henrygandorf 29223]

2 minutes ago, DanRydell said:

So I guess Kyle Tucker wasn't an insane ask after all

you can ask for whatever you want.  it would've been an insane get, and never would've happened.

[henrygandorf 29223]

also the indians (much like the cubs with chapman) are coming from a position of great need - a closer (or more) and a long time since their last series win.  the astros bullpen is already very good, and we just won a world series without a closer.

[henrygandorf 29223]

10 minutes ago, txhorns said:

Problem is they won't be able to resign all of Lindor, Ramirez, Kluber, Bauer, Carrasco and others.  So while their current window certainly isn't just a year it's most definitely 3-4 years.  At which point they will have to rebuild.  Their rebuild won't be a Cubs, Astros or Miami type rebuild but I doubt they are competing for anything in 5 years.

they almost won the world series in 2016.  a 6 year window is pretty big.  i felt like the royals had a 3 year window with a 100% assured dropoff.  cleve won't resign all those guys, but i would assume some.

[Goo Punch 4275]

50 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

they almost won the world series in 2016.  a 6 year window is pretty big.  i felt like the royals had a 3 year window with a 100% assured dropoff.  cleve won't resign all those guys, but i would assume some.

yeah, agreed. as far as "windows" go the indians appear to be in the middle of one that's going to last longer than most.

[shnsajax 3605]

19 minutes ago, Goo Punch said:

yeah, agreed. as far as "windows" go the indians appear to be in the middle of one that's going to last longer than most.

And it still might be another 2-3 years before the AL Central is anything above complete garbage. Indians can make the post season every year by simply not having their plane crash. 

[Beau Vine 55835]

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

they almost won the world series in 2016.  a 6 year window is pretty big.  i felt like the royals had a 3 year window with a 100% assured dropoff.  cleve won't resign all those guys, but i would assume some.

They need to get Lindor locked up ASAP.

[henrygandorf 29223]

4 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

They need to get Lindor locked up ASAP.

yeah, that guy is a face of a franchise, and the indians need to make sure it's their franchise right now.

[Dutchrudder 11229]

Saw the Indians trade went down today. Was that a good deal? Hand is under control for a few years and has good stats. Seems kind of pricey. I just want to see them win one World Series before I die.

[txhorns 2421]

4 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Saw the Indians trade went down today. Was that a good deal? Hand is under control for a few years and has good stats. Seems kind of pricey. I just want to see them win one World Series before I die.

They gave up a lot but as has been discussed they are pretty much in win now mode before their window closes.

[henrygandorf 29223]

yeah, if you're cleveland, coming into this season, you're not thinking trading for relief will be your primary deadline need, assuming there hasn't been a major injury (i know miller has been sidelined, but still was shitty before then).

[Goo Punch 4275]

they needed bullpen help in a bad way. i haven't seen the updated stats but i recall them having the worst bullpen era in the league earlier this year. and with that starting staff and that lineup...this was the move.

[Dutchrudder 11229]

Damn, it did sound pretty expensive. Was hoping Hand was a bit better of a player, didn't realize he had a bad WAR, though maybe that's due to the supporting cast of the Padres. Hopefully he works out well enough to help them past the Red Sox or Yankees. 

[Goo Punch 4275]

Hand is a very good lefty reliever with a wipeout slider. he had a rough week or two just before the break, but from April 3rd - June 13th he was lights out.

Brad Hand Pitching Gamelogs for Career Games 247 to 276

Date	Tm
per 162 games
Apr 3 to Jun 13, 2018	SDP

Date	Tm	G	GS	GF	CG	Rslt	Dec	DR	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR	HBP	ERA	BF	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	BAbip	Pit	Str	StL	StS	GB	FB	LD	PU	Unk	GSc	IR	IS	SB	CS	PO	AB	2B	3B	IBB	GDP	SF	ROE	aLI	WPA	RE24	DFS(DK)	DFS(FD)
per 162 games		69	0	53	0			4	74	35	19	12	32	114	5	10		291						1206							7	0		35		0	0	0	248	10	0	0	10	0	3		4.3	22.7	334	554
Apr 3 to Jun 13, 2018	SDP	30	0	23	0	26-4	W-L:1-2,Sv:21,BSv:1,Hld:3	1.5	32.1	15	8	5	14	50	2	4	1.39	128	.138	.260	.229	.489	.228	532	62%	22%	13%	1.00		30%	3%	0		15	0%	0	0	0	109	4	0	0	4	0	1	2.04	1.662	9.79	146.95	244.00

[Goo Punch 4275]

check out this slider:

 

 

[Scraps 13748]

9 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

Muncy actually gave him the #.   Kenly Jansen supposedly raising a tip fund for Muncy for being a badass and giving the # away 

bro what happened 

[Pato del Muerto 53345]

Tip jar didn’t get heavy enough 

[TheFlagship 466]

Honestly for this year, Cimber is a great pickup. The Yankees, Astros and Sox are all very right handed heavy and Cimber is holding RH’s to a .207/.221/.261 slash line with an absurd 62% GB rate. He has a great sinker. 

Lefties have mashed him though.

[Fozzz 152]

5 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

I have said this before -- I think Mejia is going to be a perennial All-Star.

This is a huge return for a relief pitcher that our resident expert thinks is overrated.

 

Cimber adds a lot of value to that deal.  Service clock just started this season and he looks like he could be one of the most dominant relievers in the league against RHB.  

[Beau Vine 55835]

 

1 hour ago, thestud said:

Giving up your top prospect for a guy with a career record of 18-37, 3.84 ERA, and a negative WAR this season seems a bit steep.

Yeah, they should have gone after a closer with a better W-L record. 

 

[Sbbruin 22087]

[Fozzz 152]

lmao career ERA.  How Hand performed for the Marlins (where he was also a starter) has little bearing on his value to the Indians. 

Edited July 19, 2018 by Fozzz

[Beau Vine 55835]

[Pato del Muerto 53345]

So did that set the market for kela?  Only real similarity is club controlled end of bullpen guy. 

[UTexasFight 9790]

So did that set the market for kela?  Only real similarity is club controlled end of bullpen guy. 

Doubtful.
Indians are so desperate.
They had to be out front ...and had to overpay to make sure that happened

[Dutchrudder 11229]

Oh I missed the Cimber guy being in the deal. Well that makes it better, 2 bull pen pitchers that are better than what they got now for the most part. The last game I watched was one where they were up like 4-0 for 8 innings, then they pull Bauer and gave up 7 runs in the 9th. Pretty sad to see, probably just a fluke, but seemed very Ken Giles-ish. Plus, the Indians need more cost-controlled assets, they don't have the market to keep a lot of the guys coming up for renewal in 2-4 years. 

[huge 3826]

You want Giles? I hear he’s available.

[kevwun 16315]

His advanced metrics are amazing.  It's gonna take a top 5 prospect to get the Astros to part with him.

Edited July 20, 2018 by kevwun

[TheFlagship 466]

Matt Carpenter is unconscious. 5-5 with 3 bombs and 2 doubles today 

[UTexasFight 9790]

Matt Carpenter is unconscious. 5-5 with 3 bombs and 2 doubles today 

Yeah but somewhere Bud Norris is still tattling on Hicks to Matheny