2023 Texas High School Football

[Knoxtnhorn 5,971]

Whelp.  I guess Garland isn't winning state.  Lost to a 5A team 38-2 today.  Granted, it's a good 5A team but something about -9 yards of total offense going into the half doesn't bode well.

[utee94 15,805]

Cedar Park 29, Cedar Ridge 7

Timberwolves are back, baby!

 

 

(or maybe we just don't suck again?)

[TreatyOak 16,311]

3 hours ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Watch too (rooting for the other guys)... Hoping just 1st game jitters for Chaps, but they look like they could struggle this year. Like said QB isn't a threat and if you focus on Keyser they stall out quickly. Keyser is currently their only offense.

For Ridge Point...well won't matter, Atascocita and North Shore will block their path again, although they may actually fall to DII this year or next due to a new HS that opened.

I really liked the Ridge Point QB. Dude has some wheels and plays hard! He's going to be a force to deal with.

Our D is salty but in the second half in that heat and humidity, being on the field so much really wore them down. I prefer our backup QB and for the second year, can't understand why he isn't starting. He's much faster, and is a real dual threat. I guess everyone always loves the backup QB.  

[utee94 15,805]

15 hours ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Let's not overlook the Anderson Trojans shellacking the McCallum Knights 42-0 in the Taco Shack Bowl last night.  Texas (baseball) signee Ed Small was the key player for the Trojans in their victory.

Anderson scores early and often, runs away with 42-0 Taco Shack Bowl win over McCallum

https://www.kxan.com/sports-general/high-school-sports/for-all-the-tortillas-anderson-mccallum-clash-in-22nd-annual-taco-shack-bowl/

L-C-A, All The Way!  Had to taunt my McCallum friends after that shellacking.  Ed Small is pretty, pretty good.

[billfromlaketravis 11,447]

I’ll just throw this grenade in the thread and run. 
 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38253786/50-best-high-school-football-teams-all

[Laga4 1,270]

1 hour ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I’ll just throw this grenade in the thread and run. 
 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38253786/50-best-high-school-football-teams-all

I’ll take ‘85 Yates over all them hoes. 

[Texas Jeff 1,944]

On 8/25/2023 at 11:06 PM, Hornlover said:

2022
Stony Point 53 
Austin High 0

2023
Stony Point 24
Austin High 21

Maybe Austin High won't be as shitty as they were last year? 

I caught the end of this one on YouTube -- very nice of AISD to stream games online.  The game was 21-21 in the 2nd quarter and both teams just stopped scoring.

Guys on both sides were cramping up every other play.  Stony Point got a late FG to take the lead.  Austin High had the ball and was driving, but ran out of time around the 30 yd line to end the game.

[Mittens 8,258]

On 8/26/2023 at 7:46 AM, TreatyOak said:

Watched my beloved Chaps on the stream. I’m feel how Clemson fans must have felt for the last two years hoping DJ Uiagalelei would finally put it all together. Our QB, God bless him, has the size and arm but something is missing. You hope after the off-season, he somehow would come back as this bastion of skill and confidence. And then you see the him do the exact same things, like panic, bail on the pocket, throw balls to nowhere, etc. Sigh. 

We have a great little RB, but we run that “you know the QB is never keeping the ball” scheme so the defense doesn’t even bother worrying about the QB keeper, about it, lulz. 

No need for a QB when your kicker can do this.  Just go Rob Bironas/David Akers on 'em.

 

[billfromlaketravis 11,447]

20 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I’ll just throw this grenade in the thread and run. 
 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38253786/50-best-high-school-football-teams-all

Texas old timers are going to be very pissed about that Daingerfield ranking. Widely regarded as the most dominant team in Texas High School Football history. 

[Helobious 9,450]

RGV thoughts:

No Aparicio no problem for PSJAN. Steamrolled rival PSJA 41-0. Tight end Julius Arredondo is now the QB and is basically another fullback back there.

Harlingen was lucky to beat south. We look small and it might be a long year for us if the offense can’t get going. QB controversy brewing as well. 
 

Vela is out for blood. They’ve found a QB in 6’3 junior Myles Lopez, who I guess learned how to not suck at football over the offseason after a rough year last year.

[Mittens 8,258]

22 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38253786/50-best-high-school-football-teams-all

No reason to have any entry pre 1970, at the earliest, and maybe even 1980.  There were like 35 high school teams in 1919.  Show me the era w/ black athletes, the forward pass and a middle class population explosion.

[billfromlaketravis 11,447]

1 minute ago, Mittens said:

No reason to have any entry pre 1970, at the earliest, and maybe even 1980.  There were like 35 high school teams in 1919.  Show me the era w/ black athletes, the forward pass and a middle class population explosion.

Yeah I’d didn’t care for the leather helmet era teams. With that kind of logic the 1899 Sewanee was the greatest of all time. 

[UpperWestside 6,160]

22 hours ago, Laga4 said:

I’ll take ‘85 Yates over all them hoes. 

2023 Yates definitely won’t be on any all-time great list though. They got roasted 65-0 by Carter last night. One of my lifelong basketball coach friends is coaching football again for the first time in almost 25 years since he was a coach at Samuell (Was an assistant on the team that beat Highland Park in the first round when they were number 1 in the state). I watched most of the first half. Carter looked liked they were going against the scout team.

[BurntOrange&White 39,930]

Watching Desoto/Allen highlights man Allen looked much slower/smaller

[Laga4 1,270]

2 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

2023 Yates definitely won’t be on any all-time great list though. They got roasted 65-0 by Carter last night. One of my lifelong basketball coach friends is coaching football again for the first time in almost 25 years since he was a coach at Samuell (Was an assistant on the team that beat Highland Park in the first round when they were number 1 in the state). I watched most of the first half. Carter looked liked they were going against the scout team.

Yup,  the glory days are over,  I think they are 4-A now.  

[closetohumping 17,435]

Not sure why I’ve always found rgv football fascinating 

Edited August 28, 2023 by closetohumping

[cochamps 1,879]

On 8/26/2023 at 5:12 PM, Laga4 said:

I’ll take ‘85 Yates over all them hoes. 

My sentiments exactly, even if we're working from a different thesaurus.  😉

[Mittens 8,258]

On 8/26/2023 at 3:07 PM, utee94 said:

Cedar Park 29, Cedar Ridge 7

Timberwolves are back, baby!

Great shot of a friend's kid on the run out.

[cafe society 2,860]

1 hour ago, closetohumping said:

Not sure why I’ve always found rgv football fascinating 

I can't speak for you, but I enjoy learning histories and stories that have been untold for far too long.  And while I've never been to a game in the Valley, it's a region for which I have a fondness.  From the outside looking in (sort of), I imagine it resembling what high school football in the Metroplex (where I grew up) was 45 years ago; more simple with emphasis on school/town loyalty, not $ and vulgar vanity.  /rant

[Helobious 9,450]

18 minutes ago, cafe society said:

I can't speak for you, but I enjoy learning histories and stories that have been untold for far too long.  And while I've never been to a game in the Valley, it's a region for which I have a fondness.  From the outside looking in (sort of), I imagine it resembling what high school football in the Metroplex (where I grew up) was 45 years ago; more simple with emphasis on school/town loyalty, not $ and vulgar vanity.  /rant

Not all games down there are like this obviously but when there’s a big game the atmosphere is about as good as you’ll ever see for any high school game in the country. Harlingen vs San Benito last year:

 

[Guest]

12 hours ago, closetohumping said:

Not sure why I’ve always found rgv football fascinating 

For the same reasons midget wrestling exists.

 

Sorry.  the shot was there so I took it.  It is indeed deep with tradition and solid rivalries.  I enjoy the discussion on here and have learned more about schools I don't normally follow.

 

Edited August 28, 2023 by slorch

[PTINS 3,463]

[cmontexas 3,270]

Went to Highland Park-Marcus on Friday and will confidently state that HP would boatrace over half the teams in this top 25

 

Rank School (Record) Week 1 Prv rank
1 Duncanville (1-0) W: Dallas South Oak Cliff, 34-13 1
2 Galena Park North Shore (1-0) W: The Woodlands, 38-17 2
3 DeSoto (1-0) W: Allen, 39-7 3
4 Austin Westlake (1-0) W: Fort Bend Ridge Point, 31-21 4
5 Katy (1-0) W: League City Clear Springs, 34-22 5
6 Spring Westfield (1-0) W: Cypress Park, 50-0 6
7 Austin Vandegrift (1-0) W: Dripping Springs, 27-7 7
8 Southlake Carroll (1-0) W: EP Eastwood, 70-21 8
9 Denton Guyer (1-0) W: Rockwall-Heath, 42-14 9
10 Humble Atascocita (1-0) W: Dickinson, 46-21 10
11 Cibolo Steele (1-0) W: SA Northside Brennan, 52-0 13
12 Lake Travis (1-0) W: Arlington Martin, 13-6 11
13 Lewisville (1-0) W: Garland Naaman Forest, 50-7 15
14 Prosper (1-0) W: Euless Trinity, 42-41 14
15 North Crowley (1-0) W: Arlington Sam Houston, 69-13 17
16 Klein Collins (1-0) W: Magnolia, 35-13 19
17 Rockwall (1-0) W: Cedar Hill, 56-21 20
18 Humble Summer Creek (1-0) W: Klein Cain, 28-21 21
19 McKinney (1-0) W: Longview, 23-21 22
20 Trophy Club Nelson (1-0) W: Plano, 54-13 24
21 Pflugerville Weiss (1-0) W: Round Rock, 37-7 NR
22 Katy Tompkins (1-0) W: Cypress Ranch, 31-0 NR
23 The Woodlands (0-1) L: Galena Park North Shore, 38-17 12
24 Alvin Shadow Creek (1-0) W: Manvel, 34-15 NR
25 Midland Legacy (1-0) W: Amarillo, 35-7 NR

Dropped out: No. 16 SA Northside Brennan, No. 18 Cy-Fair, No. 23 Dripping Springs, No. 25 Fort Bend Ridge Point

[Helobious 9,450]

7 hours ago, cmontexas said:

Went to Highland Park-Marcus on Friday and will confidently state that HP would boatrace over half the teams in this top 25

HP started 11-0 last year and then got smashed by the first real team they met in the playoffs. 

[Helobious 9,450]

If you want to see a boatrace watch what Steele is going to do to LT this weekend. Don’t be shocked if Judson gives a little scare to Westlake either. 

[cmontexas 3,270]

4 hours ago, Helobious said:

HP started 11-0 last year and then got smashed by the first real team they met in the playoffs. 

That Guyer team was a monster. Also HP beat current #13 Lewisville by 2 touchdowns

[Scholz 11,938]

Hopefully those scrappy HP kids from the streets will catch a break at some point and get some respect.

[Lonestar88 4,629]

2 hours ago, cmontexas said:

That Guyer team was a monster. Also HP beat current #13 Lewisville by 2 touchdowns

HP hasn’t gotten past the second round of the playoffs in 6A. They’ll go undefeated in that weak district, and then give up 50+ points to the first 6A power they run into in the postseason.

Edited August 29, 2023 by Lonestar88

[Longhorn94 2,448]

6 hours ago, Helobious said:

If you want to see a boatrace watch what Steele is going to do to LT this weekend. Don’t be shocked if Judson gives a little scare to Westlake either. 

its going to be a tough week for LT. i think half of the team is out with covid at this point.

[Dennis Taylor 18,809]

18 minutes ago, Longhorn94 said:

its going to be a tough week for LT. i think half of the team is out with covid at this point.

(Checks calendar)

Edited August 29, 2023 by Dennis Taylor

[The Ace of Aces 5,175]

The 83 Daingerfield team is the most dominant high school team to ever grace a field. Fight me. 

Edited August 30, 2023 by The Ace of Aces

[Dignan 356]

Well, Tyler Legacy got their asses kicked by Lufkin, who does have a couple of high-level recruits but it shouldn't have been 31-7. Legacy still has a young team with some OL/QB problems. I think I heard they moved up a freshman OL to help with depth.

Legacy had a kid transfer from Grace Community (private Christian school), Simeon Garner (JR) who was on the Dave Campbell's TAPPS Preseason All State team. Unfortunately, after playing really well, he sustained a lower leg injury and is out for the year. Hopefully he will come back strong next year. Legacy also lost their kicker/punter to a torn ACL. Pretty rough start to the year.

Next up, John Tyler in the Rose City Rivalry. I am looking forward to the game, the Lions have some major talent. Derick McFall of course, but their QB is a sophomore named Caden Granberry who is listed at 5-6, 140 lbs. No joke. Dude is an ATHLETE though. They also have one of the top 2027 players in the nation, Cadarius McMiller. He prob won't play much, but his 8th grade highlight reel is fun: 

Also, random stat from East Texas that I thought was a typo: #2 Chapel Hill beat Gilmer 71-53 last week. Their QB Demetrius Brisbon had 321 yards RUSHING, their RB Rickey Stewart totaled 278. Both are juniors. 

 

[Beau Vine 54,207]

3 hours ago, Dignan said:

Also, random stat from East Texas that I thought was a typo: #2 Chapel Hill beat Gilmer 71-53 last week. Their QB Demetrius Brisbon had 321 yards RUSHING, their RB Rickey Stewart totaled 278. Both are juniors. 

Brisbon and Stewart led that team to the 4AD1 semis last season as sophs.   That team will score a ton of points this season. 

[Hornius Emeritus 12,450]

19 hours ago, The Ace of Aces said:

The 83 Daingerfield team is the most dominant high school team to ever grace a field. Fight me. 

I know the Daingerfield 1983 team argument and still think Big Sandy 1975 was more dominant. Big Sandy went 14–0 with a state record 11 shutouts, outscoring opponents 824–15. The offense scored a still national record 114 rushing touchdowns. David Overstreet had 52 of them and never played beyond the first half. That team also had Lovie Smith leading it on defense.

[cmontexas 3,270]

I enjoy this discussion every time it comes. 1996 Lewisville Fighting Farmers never get enough credit. 15-0 outscored their playoff opponents 225-59.

I remember watching them roll over Judson in the title game. Option left, option right. Repeat, repeat, repeat 10 yards a pop

[The Ace of Aces 5,175]

57 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

I know the Daingerfield 1983 team argument and still think Big Sandy 1975 was more dominant. Big Sandy went 14–0 with a state record 11 shutouts, outscoring opponents 824–15. The offense scored a still national record 114 rushing touchdowns. David Overstreet had 52 of them and never played beyond the first half. That team also had Lovie Smith leading it on defense.

For sure a great team.  The Tigers gave up a single TD all year - and that was to a team 2 classifications higher (Carthage).They had three 1,000 yard rushers. So many great Texas teams. That Katy team was phenomenal too. Great high school football teams are special - I tend to like the ones who aren’t ranked because they score a billion points via spread offenses (hi, Allen). 

[Laga4 1,270]

2 hours ago, The Ace of Aces said:

For sure a great team.  The Tigers gave up a single TD all year - and that was to a team 2 classifications higher (Carthage).They had three 1,000 yard rushers. So many great Texas teams. That Katy team was phenomenal too. Great high school football teams are special - I tend to like the ones who aren’t ranked because they score a billion points via spread offenses (hi, Allen). 

It's fun,  but impossible to compare eras.  

What if '85 Yates had the strength and conditioning the Allen teams had,  or what if  Allen had the lack of S&C Yates had.  How would that work out if it were equal?

The teams today are unbelievable. Just rewatch Duncanville vs North Shore from last year.  That was a war and no teams from the Yates era with their S&C could have stood a chance with them.  Give them the coaching and S&C the players get today,   game on. 

[Hank Scorpio 17,729]

Don’t forget about the great pre integration teams. Those boys had gumption and could go toe to toe with any team today. 

[Hornius Emeritus 12,450]

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 1, 2023 by Hornius Emeritus

[blacklab 11,926]

On 8/29/2023 at 8:29 AM, Helobious said:

Don’t be shocked if Judson gives a little scare to Westlake either. 

Not that it always is a preview of varsity but Westlake Freshman B team beat Judson's Freshman B 54-0.

[Hank Scorpio 17,729]

Scouting freshman B teams, that’s why blacklab is the best in the recruiting biz. 

[blacklab 11,926]

Freshman A, Westlake wins 61-0

[956 Worldwide 34,702]

On 8/30/2023 at 9:19 PM, Laga4 said:

It's fun,  but impossible to compare eras.  

What if '85 Yates had the strength and conditioning the Allen teams had,  or what if  Allen had the lack of S&C Yates had.  How would that work out if it were equal?

The teams today are unbelievable. Just rewatch Duncanville vs North Shore from last year.  That was a war and no teams from the Yates era with their S&C could have stood a chance with them.  Give them the coaching and S&C the players get today,   game on. 

You can’t compare the athleticism, but I put a LOT of weight on teams that tore through their opponents pre-1990 and definitely pre-4 team playoffs and the split divisions in the lower class. 
 

It’s a different thing to beat the hell out of a district champion or runner up each week in the playoffs than it is to get a tune up against a .500 or worse squad in bi-district and then often a so-so team in the next round, too. 

[TheBryMan81 2,508]

@Helobious don't sleep on my Weslaco Panthers this year. Shut out an overmatched Mercedes last week 34-0 and bullied Harlingen South tonight 24-6. Defense has yet to give up any points (South scored on a blocked punt). Might make some noise in district this year.

[Helobious 9,450]

55 minutes ago, TheBryMan81 said:

@Helobious don't sleep on my Weslaco Panthers this year. Shut out an overmatched Mercedes last week 34-0 and bullied Harlingen South tonight 24-6. Defense has yet to give up any points (South scored on a blocked punt). Might make some noise in district this year.

Yeah sepulveda is a good athlete back there at QB and that defense is no joke. District should be a slugfest. I guess that Lefevre guy is coaching at Donna high now. His son is a 6’4 junior and threw for almost 400 yards last week. His older son was a beast QB for Weslaco East a few years ago, but he was mostly a runner. 
 

Not a valley team but shoutout to Laredo United for beating SA Marshall 34-7 tonight. They’ve taken it to more than a few SA teams in pre-district games the past few seasons.

[TheBryMan81 2,508]

6 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Yeah sepulveda is a good athlete back there at QB and that defense is no joke. District should be a slugfest. I guess that Lefevre guy is coaching at Donna high now. His son is a 6’4 junior and threw for almost 400 yards last week. 
 

Does not compute. I'm pretty sure Donna High was was trying to run power I during 7-on-7 when I was in high school lol

Offense is athletic, but it's definitely the defense that's going to carry us. We'll see how far.

[Beau Vine 54,207]

Westwood 49 Austin 7

Weiss 44 LBJ 19

FB Travis 42 Richmond Foster 20  WTF???

G-P 36 CCC 6  

[Helobious 9,450]

SA Holmes 49  SA MacArthur 42

Mac is 6-46 since 2018. There’s falls from grace and then there’s whatever has happened to them.

[cmontexas 3,270]

Week 2 Friday Games:

 

El Paso Coronado @ Canutillo

Rio Rancho, NM @ El Paso Eastlake

Las Cruces, NM @ El Paso Eastwood

El Paso El Dorado @ El Paso Chapin

El Paso Franklin @ El Paso Andress

San Angelo Central @ El Paso Montwood

El Paso Pebble Hills @ El Paso Del Valle

El Paso Socorro @ El Paso Bel Air

Midland @ Lubbock Coronado

Amarillo Tascosa @ Midland Legacy

Odessa Permian @ Hewitt Midway

Lubbock-Cooper @ Wolfforth Frenship

Rockwall-Heath @ Euless Trinity

Fort Worth Paschal @ Irving Nimitz

Arlington @ North Crowley

Richardson Pearce @ Weatherford

Keller @ Plano West

Prosper Rock Hill @ Keller Timber Creek

Little Elm @ Northwest Eaton

Flower Mound Marcus @ Southlake Carroll

Sheldon C.E. King @ Allen

Aledo @ Denton Guyer

Little Elm @ Northwest Eaton

McKinney @ Richardson Berkner

Garland Sachse @ Prosper

Coppell @ South Grand Prairie

Richardson Lake Highlands @ Flower Mound

Lewisville @ Highland Park

Lewisville Hebron @ Wylie

Plano East @ Garland Naaman Forest

Rockwall @ Dallas Jesuit

Irving @ South Garland

Dallas Adams @ Richardson

Arlington Bowie @ Mesquite Horn

Waxahachie @ Arlington Lamar

Cedar Hill @ Arlington Martin

 

 

Garland @ N. Richland Hills Birdville

North Mesquite @ Mesquite

The Colony @ Royse City

Tyler Legacy @ Tyler

Mansfield Summit @ Mansfield

Huntsville @ Bryan

Copperas Cove @ Georgetown East View

Hutto @ Liberty Hill

Smithson Valley @ Killeen Harker Heights

Temple @ Willis

Alvin @ Cleveland

Conroe Grand Oaks @ Pasadena Dobie

Houston Stratford @ Conroe Oak Ridge

New Caney @ New Caney Porter

The Woodlands @ Houston Lamar

Aldine @ Houston Northbrook

Cypress Lakes @ Aldine Davis

Aldine MacArthur @ Channelview

Spring @ Galena Park North Shore

Spring DeKaney @ Houston Strake Jesuit

Humble @ Klein Forest

Magnolia @ Tomball

Cypress Falls @ Alief Hastings

Cypress Park @ Cypress-Fairbanks

Cypress Ranch @ Katy Paetow

Jersey Village @ Langham Creek

 

 

Houston Wisdom @ Houston Sam Houston

Houston Westbury @ Fort Bend Austin

Katy @ Humble Atascocita

Humble Kingwood @ Katy Jordan

Fort Bend Rush @ Magnolia West

Beaumont United @ Port Neches-Groves

Beaumont West Brook @ Manvel

Humble Summer Creek @ Clear Falls

Clear Creek @ Deer Park

Pasadena Sam Rayburn @ Houston Milby

La Porte @ Alief Elsik

Alvin Shadow Creek @ Clear Springs

Clear Brook @ Baytown Lee

 

 

Cedar Park @ Austin Vandegrift

Georgetown @ Cedar Park Vista Ridge

San Antonio Cornerstone @ Manor

San Antonio Reagan @ Round Rock

Round Rock McNeil @ Pflugerville

Austin Bowie @ RR Cedar Ridge

Austin Akins @ Elgin

Austin Anderson @ Leander Rouse

Austin Del Valle @ Schertz Clemens

Converse Judson @ Austin Westlake

Lake Belton @ Buda Johnson

Dripping Springs @ San Antonio Wagner

Schertz Cibolo Steele @ Lake Travis

San Marcos @ San Antonio Madison

San Antonio Brennan @ San Antonio Brandeis

San Antonio Johnson @ San Antonio O'Connor

San Antonio Lee @ SA Southwest Legacy

San Antonio Harlan @ Laredo Alexander

Castroville Medina Valley @ San Antonio John Jay

San Antonio Warren @ Del Rio

Eagle Pass @ Boerne Champion

San Antonio Harlan @ Laredo Alexander

Laredo United South @ CC Flour Bluff

Edinburg Economedes @ Brownsville Lopez

Brownsville Rivera @ Edinburg North

McAllen Rowe @ La Joya

Mission @ McAllen

Pharr-San Juan-Alamo @ Weslaco East

Mission Sharyland @ Brownsville Hanna

Mercedes @ Harlingen

Los Fresnos @ PSJA North

[Fudbelty 2,787]

Not making it up to Denton tonight, but I expect Aledo @ Guyer to be a good game. Homer in me says Aledo has a shot.