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6 hours ago, texifornia said:

You can't blame people for working out ways to be excited about a new coach or recruit, even one we were kind of forced to hire. It's new, it's novel, and it feels a lot better than just giving up before the games are played. Eternal optimism is what makes sports fandom fun. (Well, that and actually winning games).

I cannot say eternal optimism as a sports fan is one of my gifts. I remember in the late 2000s telling people our recruiting in football was not doing well regardless of the rankings, that we shouldn't be putting all our quarterback eggs in the one Garrett Gilbert basket, and that Mack Brown had gotten lazy as a recruiter and was insisting on doing it the way he always had even though the paradigm was changing, and I got a whole lot of, "can't you just enjoy what we have? Things are fine. We're competing for national championships every year. You're seeing things that aren't there."

It's not like I can't be optimistic. I'm optimistic about football right now. I'm optimistic about the people we have involved in NIL. I'm optimistic about the next men's basketball coach we hire. I'm optimistic about the athletic department as a whole. But sometimes I see things and I can't shake a sense of impending doom, and that was certainly the case as Terry racked up win after win. Oh, well. It was a fun season nonetheless. I'm glad I got to experience it as a fan. 

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4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

Holy shit, you caught a typo of mine on surly. What a rare feat. As a prize, you can get jerked off by Helobious for the small price of $15. I know that's like a month's worth of beard oil for you, but if you decide to take up this anything-but-exclusive offer, you can find him on one knee at a truckstop somewhere near Medina. 

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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

I cannot say eternal optimism as a sports fan is one of my gifts. I remember in the late 2000s telling people our recruiting in football was not doing well regardless of the rankings, that we shouldn't be putting all our quarterback eggs in the one Garrett Gilbert basket, and that Mack Brown had gotten lazy as a recruiter and was insisting on doing it the way he always had even though the paradigm was changing, and I got a whole lot of, "can't you just enjoy what we have? Things are fine. We're competing for national championships every year. You're seeing things that aren't there."

It's not like I can't be optimistic. I'm optimistic about football right now. I'm optimistic about the people we have involved in NIL. I'm optimistic about the next men's basketball coach we hire. I'm optimistic about the athletic department as a whole. But sometimes I see things and I can't shake a sense of impending doom, and that was certainly the case as Terry racked up win after win. Oh, well. It was a fun season nonetheless. I'm glad I got to experience it as a fan. 

I like how this whole thing is basically “you’re dumb and I’m not, I knew things would be bad” 

everything sucks right now, the world is basically on fire, let fans have their naive optimism. 

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

I like how this whole thing is basically “you’re dumb and I’m not, I knew things would be bad” 

everything sucks right now, the world is basically on fire, let fans have their naive optimism. 

I don't see a whole lot of naive optimism right now. I see a whole lot of the writing is on the wall regarding Rodney Terry. At most, I see some "I hoped he would work out but he has not. This has been a train wreck."

It has felt like a train wreck from the beginning to me, but I'm glad we're nearing the end and we can move on. 

My gosh, I haven't been a drum beat of negativity on the basketball boards for the last two years. I just quit posting for the most part. No point in exposing everyone constantly to my conviction Rodney Terry was going to fail. But to me he was always going to fail. He's just not that smart, to put it bluntly. He's loyal. He means well. He certainly loves the University of Texas as much as a paid employee is able to. This job was always going to be too big for him. He was a great assistant for both Barnes and Beard. It's only through unusual circumstances that he found himself the head coach.

When I start feeling really negative, I just quit posting. No reason for everyone to have to constantly endure those thoughts.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Helobious said:

In fairness you or I could take over the tennis team tommorrow and it wouldn’t skip a beat. It’s an individual, highly technical sport. A college coach does absolutely nothing in tennis. They’ve all got private coaches to hone their skills, and there’s no strategy to deploy. It’s nothing like trying to find a team sport coach.

We're just gonna let this classic Helo slide on by?

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Posted
2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

It was 100% a mistake to even put that press release out when he was told not to do so. 

Not sure that I agree here.  What harm was done, other than maybe hurting Mensa's feelings?  It read like he had just gotten the dreaded vote of confidence. 

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1 minute ago, cochamps said:

Not sure that I agree here.  What harm was done, other than maybe hurting Mensa's feelings?  It read like he had just gotten the dreaded vote of confidence. 

Everyone knew he was getting fired. That release was absolutely pointless and there was no need to even give a dreaded vote of confidence.

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55 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Everyone knew he was getting fired. That release was absolutely pointless and there was no need to even give a dreaded vote of confidence.

Who is the "everyone" here?  If I recall, the media narrative after the statement was that Hermann was getting another year.  Maybe people who follow the program as much as those on Surly were pretty sure he was getting fired, but that was not the thought for the vast majority after the statement.

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1 minute ago, Texas Wahoo said:

Who is the "everyone" here?  If I recall, the media narrative after the statement was that Hermann was getting another year.  Maybe people who follow the program as much as those on Surly were pretty sure he was getting fired, but that was not the thought for the vast majority after the statement.

Good lord , apparently the boards relitigating two separate years-old coach firings is like catnip to you and BOW. Who gives a shit, they're both gone, this is astonishingly tedious.

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Posted
18 hours ago, SL Xpress said:

When I start feeling really negative, I just quit posting. No reason for everyone to have to constantly endure those thoughts.

This is the sentiment that I wish more posters had.  For those of us who preferred to stay hopeful when Terry was hired, reading all the negative crap was a miserable experience.  Most of us aren't delusional, and we knew that hiring Terry would likely not lead to the level of success that we all want for our program.  Given the option of immediately jumping on the "we are fucked" bandwagon or looking for some positives, I chose the latter, and do not regret it.  

I don't need all sunshine all the time, but it sure is nice when my sports fandom supplies happier diversions from other aspects of life.  

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1 hour ago, idigTexas said:

This is the sentiment that I wish more posters had.  For those of us who preferred to stay hopeful when Terry was hired, reading all the negative crap was a miserable experience.  Most of us aren't delusional, and we knew that hiring Terry would likely not lead to the level of success that we all want for our program.  Given the option of immediately jumping on the "we are fucked" bandwagon or looking for some positives, I chose the latter, and do not regret it.  

I don't need all sunshine all the time, but it sure is nice when my sports fandom supplies happier diversions from other aspects of life.  

Well, my thought has always been the chief identifying factor for sports fandom is helplessness. That's one of the differences I've tried to impart to players and parents/family members who want this sort of unconditional support from the fandom. That's not how it works. It's one of the reasons why sports fans are so often superstitious. We want to feel like we have some agency when we really don't. Different people approach the feeling of helplessness in different ways, whether with sports fandom or otherwise. Some people choose pessimism because it provides a coping mechanism. If they always expect the worst, then they're never caught off guard. Others choose optimism because they feel like it's a better way to go through life, and frankly there's no doubt in my mind if they're able to maintain it, they'll be more productive. 

I try not to judge what mindset people use to go through life. We're all doing the best that we can, and we all fall short at various times. Me especially. 

But I do know I'm personally extremely unpleasant to be around, either digitally or in person, when I'm in a constant state of negativity. In general I choose not to subject people to that if I can help it.

That said, there is a cathartic element in being able to shake our fists and rant to high heaven, even if it's not completely appreciated by those around us. It's especially helpful when we find others who are like minded. Although some of us enjoy being Cassandras, too. 

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On 2/12/2025 at 9:08 AM, BurntOrange&White said:

CDC's 3 biggest mistakes so far:

1. Removing interim tag from RT and promoting to full time HC

2. Tom Herman vote of confidence press release

3. "LEVERAGE" NIL program

 

Outside of those 3 things, he's been lights out. 

I forget how retarded you are at times and sometimes I forget how retarded I am in replying to your garbage. 

 

1. Correct

2. It was needed in recruiting while they entertained others. Every single person in the world can read between the lines of those quotes...except you I guess

3. Why on earth was this a mistake? They just named something that probably didn't deserve a name? It is literally a program that helps commercial businesses link up with athletes. I would love the rationale on this one

I have many nits to pick with CDC and he has already heard most of them but your list sucks

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3 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

I have many nits to pick with CDC and he has already heard most of them but your list sucks

I’m not disagreeing with anything you said; I would just love to know what your list is, especially given your ties. 

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9 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

3. Why on earth was this a mistake? They just named something that probably didn't deserve a name? It is literally a program that helps commercial businesses link up with athletes. I would love the rationale on this one

I have many nits to pick with CDC and he has already heard most of them but your list sucks

Because it had nothing to do with anything what what actual NIL was and is.

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Because it had nothing to do with anything what what actual NIL was and is.

It is quintessentially EXACTLY what NIL is and was supposed to be...

SOURCE: The guy who created what NIL is NOT supposed to be

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Posted
39 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

I’m not disagreeing with anything you said; I would just love to know what your list is, especially given your ties. 

That would be a post for @RGBIV

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For anyone with their head in the sand we all knew hiring RT was a bad idea because he's a bad coach. He only got extended as "reward" for making the elite eight with Beard's players. He's a good assistant, but fuck does he suck asshole as a HC. 

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On 2/12/2025 at 11:29 AM, Helobious said:

In fairness you or I could take over the tennis team tommorrow and it wouldn’t skip a beat.

Many could. I probably could. You definitely could not.

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