Near miss at Bergstrom

[Your Mom 4805]

5 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Austin is a microcosm of a systemic crisis. The safety net that underpins air travel in America is fraying

This is the most important line of the article. It’s not an Austin problem, it’s an everywhere problem.  There is a shortage of controllers and the ones we have are overworked.  

We need more controllers and they need the pay and work rules to attract and retain them.  

[BrickHorn 18217]

3 hours ago, Your Mom said:

This is the most important line of the article. It’s not an Austin problem, it’s an everywhere problem.  There is a shortage of controllers and the ones we have are overworked.  

We need more controllers and they need the pay and work rules to attract and retain them.  

Take that commie bullshit back to Russia. The Free Market will fix this problem, as it fixes ALL problems! Over time, consumers will adjust and choose airports that have relatively fewer avoidable mass casualty events. 

Edited October 11, 2023 by BrickHorn

[Born to Run 6569]

If the Founding Father's wanted the FAA they would have put it in the constitution!

[BamaATL 16593]

22 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

If the Founding Father's wanted the FAA they would have put it in the constitution!
 

I've been trying to get Hartsfield Jackson renamed to Antonin Scalia Airport for years.  

[YGIFS 19449]

1 hour ago, Born to Run said:

If the Founding Father's wanted the FAA they would have put it in the constitution!
 

But I have it on the highest authority by the smartest man ever in the land with the best words that General Washington's army took over the airports from the British so that this kinda thing wouldn't happen.  sorry to be sarcastic, we do need more investment in our ATC and our Special Olympics  teams of which my sister is a proud member.  

[elfenix 34225]

5 hours ago, Your Mom said:

This is the most important line of the article. It’s not an Austin problem, it’s an everywhere problem.  There is a shortage of controllers and the ones we have are overworked.  

We need more controllers and they need the pay and work rules to attract and retain them.  

part of the problem is that mass firings which happened in 1981 and mandatory retirement leads to big waves of controllers retiring at the same time. 

[Your Mom 4805]

1 minute ago, elfenix said:

part of the problem is that mass firings which happened in 1981 and mandatory retirement leads to big waves of controllers retiring at the same time. 

The New York Times Daily podcast Did an episode about this not long ago.  You’re right, we’re still feeling the effects of Reagan firing them all. And if they hired as many as they could right now, and trained them at the normal rate of training, it would still take decades before they get to full strength.
 
 

[elfenix 34225]

20 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

The New York Times Daily podcast Did an episode about this not long ago.  You’re right, we’re still feeling the effects of Reagan firing them all. And if they hired as many as they could right now, and trained them at the normal rate of training, it would still take decades before they get to full strength.
 
 

i spent 15 minutes searching npr and marketplace for the radio show i heard discussing that, and it was probably that episode of the daily. 

[Ghost of LL 15531]

15 hours ago, elfenix said:

part of the problem is that mass firings which happened in 1981 and mandatory retirement leads to big waves of controllers retiring at the same time. 

That's exactly right.  

My brother-in-law was an air traffic controller he retired about five years ago.  He was hired around 1986, when he came out of the USAF.  His problem was that there were a huge number of people with higher seniority who were hired right after the PATCO strike, so he always got stuck with shitty shifts and working on holidays.

Yeah--all those guys are gone now.  And at 3.7% unemployment, we just don't have the available pool of people to replace them.

[MissingInAction 25017]

17 hours ago, Born to Run said:

If the Founding Father's wanted the FAA they would have put it in the constitution!
 

We need to harden planes. Everyone who boards gets an AR.