Texas Rangers 2023 - They're Still Shitty?

[C-Man 27,239]

I can’t think of one.
Dome World Series off my dome

Minny - St Louis
Blue jays - Braves
Blue jays - Philly
Minny - Braves
Sneks- yanks
Stros- white Sox
Stros - La
Stros - wash
Stros - Philly

Missed Tampa - Philly
Stros - Braves
Not counting 2020 in our place.

Nope, never had an all-dome World Series

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,669]

2021 DBacks to 2021 Rangers

 

 

 

 

[Trey3216 15,350]

16 minutes ago, shadow_operative2.0 said:

Last two years... 

Easy game. 

Those numbers ain’t right.  The rangers have 158 wins over the past 2 seasons 

[Sir Ulrich 5,188]

20 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

How much money could you have made betting on Texas vs Arizona in the Series back in March?

 I stared at that bet in particular for some odd reason in August and didn't pull the trigger..

[Dr Fear 1,268]

How much money could you have made betting on Texas vs Arizona in the Series back in March?

1750-1

[Dr Fear 1,268]

Those numbers ain’t right.  The rangers have 158 wins over the past 2 seasons 

That's the prior 2 full seasons, 2021 and 2022.

[Trey3216 15,350]

3 minutes ago, Dr Fear said:

19 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

Those numbers ain’t right.  The rangers have 158 wins over the past 2 seasons 

That's the prior 2 full seasons, 2021 and 2022.

Ahhh.  Didn’t see that.  when it said “last two years” I’m thinking this season and last season. Should read “prior two seasons”  I stand corrected 

 

 

Edited October 25, 2023 by Trey3216

[shadow_operative2.0 16,013]

Jesus, I thought you were trying to be funny. That's even worse. 

[Trey3216 15,350]

1 minute ago, shadow_operative2.0 said:

Jesus, I thought you were trying to be funny. That's even worse. 

Except the way I stated is how baseball, or any sport has always been described.  “The last two seasons”  or “over the last two seasons” means this year and the prior seasons.  

[shadow_operative2.0 16,013]

Anyone with a non-Waco brain would deduce that's how fucking awful the two WS teams were prior to this season, but whatever. 

[Trey3216 15,350]

2 minutes ago, shadow_operative2.0 said:

Anyone with a non-Waco brain would deduce that's how fucking awful the two WS teams were prior to this season, but whatever. 

Anyone that’s ever read a graph with fucking dated context would deduce that it’s a shitty graph with shitty verbiage.  And it’s well documented how shitty they both were prior to this season, which is why it should say “Prior two seasons”.   

but go ahead thread police boi.    Be a fucktard all you want 

[shadow_operative2.0 16,013]

Relax Waco, we know Baseball-Reference is new to some, it's okay you couldn't figure it out. 

 

Moving on, their park is pretty damn big. 

[C-Man 27,239]

Relax Waco, we know Baseball-Reference is new to some, it's okay you couldn't figure it out. 
 
Moving on, their park is pretty damn big. 

It’s also downtown, or what suffices for downtown in Phoenix, like a ballpark should be. Do they still have the swimming pool in the OF?

[shadow_operative2.0 16,013]

Yep, they went splash just the other day. 

 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,669]

7 hours ago, shadow_operative2.0 said:

Jesus, I thought you were trying to be funny. That's even worse. 

 

[Ghost of LL 15,539]

8 hours ago, C-Man said:

It’s also downtown, or what suffices for downtown in Phoenix, like a ballpark should be. Do they still have the swimming pool in the OF?

It's really one of my favorite ballparks.  And I don't really have a great reason for that.  Maybe it's just that the air conditioning is so damned welcome after being outside for more than 30 seconds in the summer on Phoenix. 

But yeah--the location is good; the sightlines are actually really good; the outfield is kind of set up in a way that you can almost fool yourself into forgetting that you're in a dome.

[ztejas 43,526]

9 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

If you did a parlay for $100….$183,500 

 

9 hours ago, Dr Fear said:

 

1750-1

 

That doesn't seem right. The opening odds in late February had us +4500 - +5000 and Arizona +10000. The parlay for that should be ~4500 to 1 - not 1750. 

Maybe they don't let you straight parlay long odds futures like that - but 4500 to 1 is a better reflection of the actual odds of it happening according to Vegas. 

[Trey3216 15,350]

12 minutes ago, ztejas said:

 

That doesn't seem right. The opening odds in late February had us +4500 - +5000 and Arizona +10000. The parlay for that should be ~4500 to 1 - not 1750. 

Maybe they don't let you straight parlay long odds futures like that - but 4500 to 1 is a better reflection of the actual odds of it happening according to Vegas. 

I saw some odds at +5000 (Ari) and +3500(Tex), so that's what I calculated.  

[ztejas 43,526]

Just now, Trey3216 said:

I saw some odds at +5000 (Ari) and +3500(Tex), so that's what I calculated.  

Yeah depends on the date I guess. When they opened in February DBacks were 1,000 to 1. 

[Vic Mackey 47,095]

My dad put a bet in Vegas before the season started that the Rangers would have more than 80 some odd wins. Had a nice little payout on that. 

[gofuckyourself 8,355]

The Rangers are gonna need to stay focused.

They disposed of one midget but there's another one that may be around in this series...

[DougO 5,253]

 

I was cleaning out a bunch of old junk and I just found this old print from one of the few Rangers games I was able to photograph. I wish I could remember the year I'm gonna have to try to find the negative and see if I can get a decent scan of it. 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,669]

that shadow looks like kenny got the A+++ 80-grade 70s sideburn going.

[Trey3216 15,350]

1 hour ago, DougO said:

 

I was cleaning out a bunch of old junk and I just found this old print from one of the few Rangers games I was able to photograph. I wish I could remember the year I'm gonna have to try to find the negative and see if I can get a decent scan of it. 

Since that game is at Arlington Stadium, and that pretty damn sure looks like Benji Gil playing short, it would have to have been later in the '93 season.   

[shadow_operative2.0 16,013]

Think that's earlier than '93, Kenny was cleaned up on all his baseball cards that year. Benji wore #22 in '93, that looks like a single-digit. 

[shadow_operative2.0 16,013]

On 10/23/2023 at 10:50 PM, Constant said:

Had the opportunity to meet my childhood idol Kenny Rogers this summer. I can’t help but feel it’s all tied together. Love this fucking team for life. 

We need our boy @Constant to send that pic to his middle man, maybe Kenny can solve the riddle for us. 

[Trey3216 15,350]

8 minutes ago, shadow_operative2.0 said:

Think that's earlier than '93, Kenny was cleaned up on all his baseball cards that year. Benji wore #22 in '93, that looks like a single-digit. 

Very well could be.  Maybe '90-91ish (obviously Gil didn't get there til late '93) and the person is so fuzzy it's hard to tell.  Just positing a guess. 

[shadow_operative2.0 16,013]

It would help a lot if he had a slightly less-famous name. 

 

Benji's last game in '93 was 5/26, he was just up while Manny Lee was hurt. 

Edited October 25, 2023 by shadow_operative2.0

[gsoda3 3,276]

i think that's 1993, that's the arlington stadium patch on kenny's left arm we wore that year before we moved into the temple. at first glance i didn't think that was benji gil, thought it was mario diaz. but mario diaz in person is quite short which leads me to think that's benji though i remember him being skinnier at that point of his career.  

[shadow_operative2.0 16,013]

Mario wore #6 that season, it’s possible. 

[shadow_operative2.0 16,013]

I misread Behold’s post about the sideburn, see the shadow part now. 

Good catch on the patch. 

Edited October 25, 2023 by shadow_operative2.0
Clearly can’t read.

[idigTexas 2,289]

The bunting on the OF wall made me think it might be a 4th of July game, in which case, it would most likely be 1991.  Kenny didn't start but did pitch in relief.  

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TEX/TEX199107040.shtml

 

I think soda's take on the patch is correct, so 1993, but not the 4th, as we were on the road in Detroit.

[shadow_operative2.0 16,013]

Last week of June was our final homestand before the 4th. Kenny started 6/28, Mario played SS. 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TEX/TEX199306280.shtml

[strangulation! 1,716]

that was a night game though

[Fudbelty 2,789]

that was a night game though

That is a late sun. Arlington stadium was orientated the same as the Temple. Sun set perpendicular(ish) to first base line.

[strangulation! 1,716]

Just now, Fudbelty said:

That is a late sun. Arlington stadium was orientated the same as the Temple. Sun set perpendicular(ish) to first base line.

very well could be, i couldn't remember the orientation. 7pm in late june is still plenty bright

[Trey3216 15,350]

2 minutes ago, Fudbelty said:

That is a late sun. Arlington stadium was orientated the same as the Temple. Sun set perpendicular(ish) to first base line.

Yep.  And it wasn't nearly as tall.  A 7:05 start in June would still have the pitcher in the sun early on the game.  

Edited October 25, 2023 by Trey3216

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,669]

scanning his bbref page.  he played in the 1996 alcs -- as a yankee.  no recollection.  does look like he tried to toss us a bone though and suck.

[shadow_operative2.0 16,013]

There's a bunch of old pics with Mario's left forearm wrapped, that was clearly his thing. 

 

 

My memory ain't near good enough to remember where the sun would be at 7:35. 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,669]

and to tie it all up with the Nellie discussion: who has more 1.000 + OPS seasons, Kenny Rogers or power hitter extraordinaire Nelson Cruz as the most feared slugger on multiple teams over two decades?  Kenny of course, 3 to 2.

[Don Johnson 4,754]

[shadow_operative2.0 16,013]

Nate gets Game 1. 

[Hornlover 8,830]

DBacks are starting Zac Gallen in game one. Pitched against the Rangers twice this year. Won 1, Lost 1.

 

[mdmost 43,014]

[gofuckyourself 8,355]

I just was looking at Kenny's old stats and saw he had like 6 complete games for the Rangers one year and thought damn, that's a ton. 

Then looked at 93 and Kevin Brown had 12 CGs. 12 out of 34 starts. And he didn't even lead the league -- Finley had 13 out of 35 starts.

This year the MLB leader in CGs was 3 - shared by Alcantara in Miami and Lyles at KC.

In 1993 there were about 56 pitchers with 3 or more CGs.

Edited October 25, 2023 by gofuckyourself

[Vic Mackey 47,095]

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,669]

well, i mean, they needed a second r i guess.

[Ignatius 4,017]

2 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

i think that's 1993, that's the arlington stadium patch on kenny's left arm we wore that year before we moved into the temple. at first glance i didn't think that was benji gil, thought it was mario diaz. but mario diaz in person is quite short which leads me to think that's benji though i remember him being skinnier at that point of his career.  

Think that’s probably Manny Lee; he played 72 at SS in 1993 and wore #2….

[Vic Mackey 47,095]

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https://blackmoon93.com/campaign/rang2

[Ignatius 4,017]

6 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

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https://blackmoon93.com/campaign/rang2

Im not usually a big fan of shirts with a bunch of shit on the front but the back of that shirt is badass enough to make me not care…