Texas Rangers 2023 - They're Still Shitty?

[C-Man 27818]

Given his short history, I thought tonight was going to be our home run party night. Starter gave up something like 22 HRs in 96 innings. I may have that wrong but it was a little shocking he was given the nod. He performed a lot better than I thought he might. Still gave up a nice bomb to Seager. Tomorrow is going to be a wild ride. And it's Halloween. 

He apparently was a totally different pitcher after they tweaked his mechanics late in the season. I think it had to do with him sliding to the first base side of the rubber.

[C-Man 27818]

[dcar00 14995]

they just said Max said his back "locked up" on him.  that's probably not good.

[Pato del Muerto 53581]

2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

max is done until game 7 anyway.

Garcia may sit tomorrow but I bet he's back for #5

If max is done done, and they want to hold gray back for a g7 start, it would be good to get max of of the roster asap for another bullpen arm. 
 

though if there’s a good chance to close it out in 5 or 6, it would be very tempting to use gray there. 
 

imagine someone like Cody Bradford starting g7.  We would hear the word aledo a few times. 

[Irish Wrist Watch 1503]

Fuckin' Seager. What a stud.

[mdmost 44109]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

they just said Max said his back "locked up" on him.  that's probably not good.

Max said it was a back spasm and he'd know more in 48 hours. So probably game 6 or 7...if.....

[Pato del Muerto 53581]

2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

they just said Max said his back "locked up" on him.  that's probably not good.

I think just the opposite.   Treatment can calm spasms. 

[gofuckyourself 9093]

So unrelated to the hit he took?

[TexasGary 867]

3 minutes ago, gofuckyourself said:

So unrelated to the hit he took?

Yes

[dcar00 14995]

8 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Max said it was a back spasm and he'd know more in 48 hours. So probably game 6 or 7...if.....

oh, one of the channels said "locked up" which sounded like more than just a spasm.

[C-Man 27818]

So unrelated to the hit he took?

Unless he tweaked it by reacting to the batted ball. I was cooking in the kitchen and not paying super close attention to the play so I only saw Jung scoop the carom and fire to first.

[mdmost 44109]

2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

oh, one of the channels said "locked up" which sounded like more than just a spasm.

This was on Fox 4 that was in the gangbang at his locker. Said it spasmed in the 3rd. 

Edited October 31, 2023 by mdmost

[gofuckyourself 9093]

 

 

[dcar00 14995]

8 minutes ago, gofuckyourself said:

So unrelated to the hit he took?

he might have done something when he tried to avoid the ball but the ball didn't hit his back.

[C-Man 27818]

he might have done something when he tried to avoid the ball but the ball didn't hit his back.

That’s what I was thinking maybe.

More stats:

[gofuckyourself 9093]

2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

he might have done something when he tried to avoid the ball but the ball didn't hit his back.

That's what I was thinking. Seems they were related somehow, even if not directly.

[Billy Pilgrim 2079]

Bochy said he took it off his elbow in the postgame presser

[shadow_operative2.0 16288]

Straight from the horse’s mouth. 

 

[C-Man 27818]

Bochy said he took it off his elbow in the postgame presser

Yes, it hit his elbow and ricocheted to Jung at third and he threw the guy out. We are wondering if maybe he flinched trying to avoid getting hit and tweaked his back. For those of us Gen X’ER’s know what it’s like to get a Charley horse trying to kick the covers off, we can easily see it happen.

[gofuckyourself 9093]

Almost forgot again. I get too damn excited.

[shadow_operative2.0 16288]

Heaney is getting the ball as of now. 

[SpiralOut 1965]

If the bottom of the lineup can wake the fuck up and hit the ball (plus Semien), this series is done.  If they continue to do nothing, this thing is gonna be a nail-biter that goes 7.  

Here's hoping Adolis is gonna be fine.  Cause boy oh boy we need him.

[shadow_operative2.0 16288]

Dbacks will start a pen lefty. 

[brojangles2 795]

We’re pounding the Max injury into the dirt but Adolis’ is way more painful if serious. 

[Pato del Muerto 53581]

Zero confidence in Heaney.  Here’s to hoping. 
 

good chance for the announcers to get their strange wish that Christian walker get a bunch of hits. 

[gofuckyourself 9093]

2 minutes ago, shadow_operative2.0 said:

Dbacks will start a pen lefty. 

Carter is hitting well. Wonder if Grossman gets in or not.

Heim from the right side may actually help him out.

[TexasGary 867]

At one point during the season Heaney was our best pitcher. He can be again.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

5 minutes ago, SpiralOut said:

If the bottom of the lineup can wake the fuck up and hit the ball (plus Semien), this series is done.  

Things are a lot more tenuous right now than

[C-Man 27818]

5 minutes ago, shadow_operative2.0 said:

Dbacks will start a pen lefty. 

Mantiply?
 

3 minutes ago, brojangles2 said:

We’re pounding the Max injury into the dirt but Adolis’ is way more painful if serious. 

100%

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

Just now, gofuckyourself said:

Carter is hitting well. Wonder if Grossman gets in or not.

Heim from the right side may actually help him out.

If Adolis can’t go, keep Carter at fourth and have Garver protecting Seager imo. It ain’t much but it’s all we got. 

[Pato del Muerto 53581]

Guess if no Garcia, grossman will start in right.  Big outfield favors jank but lefty probably means Robbie at least to start. 

Edited October 31, 2023 by Pato del Muerto

[C-Man 27818]

Albert Pujols on MLB.com seems to think there’s a good chance we’ve seen the last of Adolis in the Series.

Ugh.

[gofuckyourself 9093]

2 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

If Adolis can’t go, keep Carter at fourth and have Garver protecting Seager imo. It ain’t much but it’s all we got.

Maybe so. I like Heim batting from right side of plate also.

Both HRs this postseason from right.

Just now, C-Man said:

Albert Pujols on MLB.com seems to think there’s a good chance we’ve seen the last of Adolis in the Series.

Ugh.

Fuck pujols.

[C-Man 27818]

4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Guess if no Garcia, grossman will start in right.  Big outfield favors jank but lefty probably means Robbie at least to start. 

Def Grossman vs lefty. He pummeled lefties this season.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

I’m in a mild panic right now thinking about injuries plus limited bullpen on a bullpen day. Pyrrhic victory indeed.  Me: I think a new, different kind of bowling should be "carpet bowling." It's just like regular bowling, only the lanes are carpet instead of wood. I don't know why we should do this, but my God, we've got to try something!

[gsoda3 3362]

if adolis really has a strain it's probably season over for him.  the overwhelming majority of back strains take longer to heal than we have games left in this series.

[C-Man 27818]

16 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I’m in a mild panic right now thinking about injuries plus limited bullpen on a bullpen day. Pyrrhic victory indeed.  Me: I think a new, different kind of bowling should be "carpet bowling." It's just like regular bowling, only the lanes are carpet instead of wood. I don't know why we should do this, but my God, we've got to try something!

Maybe. But winning tonight means at the absolute worst, the Rangers are getting to six games, which means Eovaldi and Montgomery will each get one more start. Win those two and you’re world champs. Drop one and you’ve got either Max Scherzer or Jon Gray to start G7.

Edited October 31, 2023 by C-Man

[dcar00 14995]

I'd lead off Evan, Semien, Seager, Garver, Grossman, Lowe, Heim, Jung, Taveras.

Semien needs some type of change, IMO.

[shadow_operative2.0 16288]

Again, moving Corey down is incredibly brain-dead. 

[C-Man 27818]

Just now, shadow_operative2.0 said:

Again, moving Corey down is incredibly brain-dead. 

2 to 3 isn’t that big of a deal. Historically, 3 hole is your best hitter so he fits there, especially if Adolis can’t go.

[shadow_operative2.0 16288]

No, this isn’t the ‘80s anymore. Your best hitter hits 2nd, period. 

https://www.mlb.com/news/number-2-spot-in-lineup-now-the-best-in-baseball

https://community.fangraphs.com/a-lineup-construction-experiment/

https://www.lrsitsolutions.com/Blog/Posts/70/Analytics/2019/5/How-Analytics-changed-the-role-of-the-2-hitter/blog-post/

[dcar00 14995]

8 minutes ago, C-Man said:

2 to 3 isn’t that big of a deal. Historically, 3 hole is your best hitter so he fits there, especially if Adolis can’t go.

hey, somebody who understands baseball.  if it is a lefty might move jung up in front of heim and lowe down in front of Taveras. 

semien needs a change too and you aren't dropping him to 5th or 6th. 

Edited October 31, 2023 by dcar00

[shadow_operative2.0 16288]

Scioscia of all people, a clear ‘old-school’ baseball guy, was smart enough to do this with Trout. 

[Redneck Mutha 8208]

Semien

Carter

Corey

Lowe, fuck it he had good ABs tonight

Josh

6-9 flip a fucking coin

[shadow_operative2.0 16288]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

hey, somebody who understands baseball.  if it is a lefty might move jung up in front of heim and lowe down in front of Taveras

Two old guys screaming 3-hole! is so comical. 

 

C-Man has admitted he stopped following the sport for a decade, & dcar physically gets upset when the Rangers win. 

[shadow_operative2.0 16288]

Marcus has led off for 177 consecutive games this season, we’re up 2-1 in the goddamn fucking World Series, it is truly amazing any of you actually think that should or will be fucked with. 

Edited October 31, 2023 by shadow_operative2.0

[gsoda3 3362]

hey, somebody who understands baseball.  if it is a lefty might move jung up in front of heim and lowe down in front of Taveras. 
semien needs a change too and you aren't dropping him to 5th or 6th. 

No. Your best hitter bats second. Period. Your #1 and #2 hitters will come up to bat many more times than your #s 3 thru 5. And you want him up there with less than 2 outs because it gives the guys after him a chance to move him. You need a good hitter #3 to protect #2. Carter's not going to leadoff to let Mitch bat after Corey. Also your #9 guy can't be slow.

[TexasGary 867]

 

[shadow_operative2.0 16288]

We know, BYU. 

 

@gsoda3, we’re just wasting our breath. Old dudes gonna old. 

[dcar00 14995]

7 minutes ago, shadow_operative2.0 said:

Scioscia of all people, a clear ‘old-school’ baseball guy, was smart enough to do this with Trout. 

thats because his 3 hole was Albert Pujols and Trout was batting leadoff before that.

If Garcia is hurt who is going to protect Seager?  If Semien could hit above the mendoza line this is a non issue.

My guess is he will move evan to 3rd and leave seager at 2nd so you'll be happy.