2023 Spring Practice to Fall Camp Thread - Just hook it to my veins!

[UncleSonny 6573]

24 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

I hope all this koolaid about Ewers is accurate and not just hype. If so, we could be in for a good show as long as he is healthy and upright. He is as physically gifted at throwing the football naturally as I have ever seen.

Same, it mostly reads as typical spring fluff. Everybody saying what they know they are supposed to say. 

But…if I want to buy in to the koolaid a bit, I can believe that he’s a young, immature kid with crazy talent who has had everything come pretty easy to him until last year. Last few years have been crazy with him skipping his senior year of HS to get paid, then with all the transfer drama and the actual football part sort of took a backseat. 

Then, he was faced with real adversity and some failure for the first time ever in his football career. It was probably eye opening to realize that this isn’t all going to be just handed to him. Good on him if he actually took that setback and rededicated himself to being great. And that would bode very well for us this year. 

[conVINCEd 21469]

If Ewers is good and we can stay relatively healthy at WR we are going to fuck everybody up on our way out of this shithole conference.

[Atticus 3986]

Saying you're going to start being serious and actually doing it in a way that will actually see results, on a consistent basis, is a pretty big leap. Hopefully he has someone he trusts and listens to, who has been there, and can check him whenever he falls below that standard. 

 Good luck dude.

[Vertigo 20331]

If I were Quinn, I would be debriefing Arch on anything his uncles have taught him about game prep. 

[Codaxx 5833]

44 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Saying you're going to start being serious and actually doing it in a way that will actually see results, on a consistent basis, is a pretty big leap. Hopefully he has someone he trusts and listens to, who has been there, and can check him whenever he falls below that standard. 

 Good luck dude.

I actually think this is a pretty normal thing for a D1 athlete. It is not really being lazy or having a bad attitude, more ignorance or hubris, You go your whole life dominating on the field, by simply showing up. Then you realize that doesnt work at the next level and you have to put a little more into it. .  It is funny, but I think a true freshman is really going to help in this regard (Hello, Arch). I doubt Ewers is the only freshman on Texas to come to this realization. I am pretty sure Sanders had this same realization after his freshman year. 

Edited March 17, 2023 by Codaxx

[closetohumping 17461]

46 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Saying you're going to start being serious and actually doing it in a way that will actually see results, on a consistent basis, is a pretty big leap. Hopefully he has someone he trusts and listens to, who has been there, and can check him whenever he falls below that standard. 

 Good luck dude.

Haircut and weight loss did it for me.

[mwaadeeb 1235]

23 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I actually think this is a pretty normal thing for a D1 athlete. It is not really being lazy or having a bad attitude, more ignorance or hubris, You go your whole life dominating on the field, by simply showing up. Then you realize that doesnt work at the next level and you have to put a little more into it. .  It is funny, but I think a true freshman is really going to help in this regard (Hello, Arch). I doubt Ewers is the only freshman on Texas to come to this realization. I am pretty sure Sanders had this same realization after his freshman year. 

Bringing home a 1.7 GPA to my dad is what did it for me.

[Vertuzzi 1381]

6 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

Bringing home a 1.7 GPA to my dad is what did it for me.

[Ghost of Shag 2615]

I won’t believe a damn thing about Ewers until I see it consistently on the field. He was that shitty last year.

[Red Five 40884]

7 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

I won’t believe a damn thing about Ewers until I see it consistently on the field. He was that shitty last year.

He was a freshman who hadn't played in two years. He was also incredibly good against both Alabama and OU. 

[TotallyLegit 3053]

4 hours ago, closetohumping said:

Kind of belongs here, War room:

 

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[Hookem2147 21353]

Always been kinda funny to me that the majority of Orangeblood's inside info pieces are just mods regurgitating previous reports, press conference quotes or player/recruit interviews.

[closetohumping 17461]

25 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Always been kinda funny to me that the majority of Orangeblood's inside info pieces are just mods regurgitating previous reports, press conference quotes or player/recruit interviews.

Ketch is a slimy bastard

[Frank Drebin 5653]

50 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Always been kinda funny to me that the majority of Orangeblood's inside info pieces are just mods regurgitating previous reports, press conference quotes or player/recruit interviews.

I don’t think any besides Burton and Hamilton have anything worth paying for.  

[Bevo 13598]

43 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Ketch is a slimy bastard

greasy

[HenryJames 66166]

20 minutes ago, Bevo said:

greasy

[Vito Andolini 9131]

Were the out of order Anwar snippets actually a cognitive test to check for mental acuity? I think I might’ve done ok. 

[Ghost of Shag 2615]

6 hours ago, Red Five said:

He was a freshman who hadn't played in two years. He was also incredibly good against both Alabama and OU. 

Yeah, he wasn’t incredibly good against OU. Go back and watch. But I’ll give you a quarter against Bama.

[Slacks 6862]

13 hours ago, Had Enough said:

No, he wouldn’t have been the starter. Would we have been better had he been? Yes.

I’m well aware of Greg Davis. I recall Matt McCoy one on one with BJ Johnson and miles of green grass in front of him. One the top rated WR recruit. One not. It wasn’t even close. Yet one of many examples of lesser talented dudes winning, particularly against OU.

One of the problems, among many, is we’re so damn concerned with bullshit that it’s less about program building and getting as many quality football players as possible. That’s not about getting exceptions. That’s about finding guys who fit a role and serve a purpose within the program.

Historically speaking, the recent Georgias and Bamas of the world don’t exist in the sense that there truly are layers and layers of talent. That didn’t even exist to their extent with unlimited scholarships. This is Sarks method, and he may pull it off. Without NIL and SEC backing, he wouldn’t have a chance.

But if you’re asking me do I take a chance on a guy who produces like Bennett on an exception basis? Absolutely. Would I take guys to fill out rosters with a promise of hey you might get some playing time? Absolutely. Particularly in the portal era when guys who think they should be starting won’t be patient with a backup role.
And occasionally that’s dudes who are fine with fulfilling that backup role for the entirety of their career.

 

13 hours ago, Burt Macklin said:

lol wut

I'm not discounting what he delivered.

But he wouldn't be the starter here. Hell, he wasn't going to be the starter at Uga, iirc.

[cochamps 1879]

9 hours ago, closetohumping said:

Haircut and weight loss did it for me.

Mainly weight loss for me, but yeah good call.

[staboner 4984]

9 hours ago, Bevo said:

greasy

[HuntinHorn 986]

Ready to get the practices started back up…

[TexasTroll 454]

On 3/17/2023 at 12:00 PM, Codaxx said:

I actually think this is a pretty normal thing for a D1 athlete. It is not really being lazy or having a bad attitude, more ignorance or hubris, You go your whole life dominating on the field, by simply showing up. Then you realize that doesnt work at the next level and you have to put a little more into it. .  It is funny, but I think a true freshman is really going to help in this regard (Hello, Arch). I doubt Ewers is the only freshman on Texas to come to this realization. I am pretty sure Sanders had this same realization after his freshman year. 

Ewers passing stats first year at Texas are better than VY passing stats first year at Texas….

maybe a bright spot???

[nbmishoid 962]

Sure, we wished for more last year.  Plenty of rational talk about why certain games went poorly.  But the simplest explanation for the Alabama and OU performances (throws) is that this kid has some vivid talent.  It’s reasonable to expect relatively more vivid performances next season.  Or, we wish for more.

[billfromlaketravis 11522]

On 3/17/2023 at 2:58 PM, Hookem2147 said:

Always been kinda funny to me that the majority of Orangeblood's inside info pieces are just mods regurgitating previous reports, press conference quotes or player/recruit interviews.

The poster threads have been much better for quite some time. The bourbon thread is top notch.

[Red Five 40884]

29 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

The poster threads have been much better for quite some time. The bourbon thread is top notch.

Why would anyone pay Geoff Ketchum money for this. 

[futureman 22542]

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Why would anyone pay Geoff Ketchum money for this. 

the man has been in the business as long as anyone.  you can’t put a price on experience. 

[campcrunk 2504]

On 3/6/2023 at 10:19 PM, Vermin said:

So is Arch gonna be starting by OU or what

No, but he will be getting snaps when we're up 56-0 

[Nope 3121]

4 hours ago, TexasTroll said:

Ewers passing stats first year at Texas are better than VY passing stats first year at Texas….

maybe a bright spot???

Quinn will need to be a much better passer than VY was in college because he has no wheels, not a great benchmark to consider

[ousux 5601]

He was a freshman who hadn't played in two years. He was also incredibly good against both Alabama and OU. 

I have to think the injury was reinjured at some point either late in the BlowU game or after. Outside of the gooner game, he wasn't the same after the dirty hit from Bama. He was starting to look like his early season self against Washington, but we were missing too much on D, running game was non existent and Worthy still had the drops.

[Sawbonz 27584]

6 hours ago, futureman said:

the man has been in the business as long as anyone.  you can’t put a price on experience. 

[Josef Pwag 1741]

13 hours ago, Nope said:

Quinn will need to be a much better passer than VY was in college because he has no wheels, not a great benchmark to consider

There was a 3rd and long against OU where Quinn scrambled for a first down. He planted & cut, froze a defender, and then accelerated past the first down marker quicker than I expected. I think he was still a bit hurt when he did this. He will never be VY but I think he will have the confidence to be selective in his choices this year and run for more first downs that you expect. 

[Blotto 23570]

On 3/17/2023 at 11:48 AM, Vertigo said:

If I were Quinn, I would be debriefing Arch on anything his uncles have taught him about game prep. 

Why would Arch give a fuck about what Quinn's uncles have to say about game prep?

[BurntOrange&White 39996]

On 3/12/2023 at 3:39 PM, Dbeasy said:

There is zero reason KSU or OU should win the Big 12 over Texas. Sark has enough talent. Period. I don’t like our eDGE talent depth but it’s good enough given everything else on the team. 

they say tapp is really starting come on

[futureman 22542]

2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

they say tapp is really starting come on

it's march.  everyone is "coming on."

[Vito Andolini 9131]

[billfromlaketravis 11522]

Slightly optimistic on the pass rush. The secondary should be really good, and they should get a nice interior push from Murphy and Sweat. Just need an edge to emerge. 

[TexasTroll 454]

3 hours ago, futureman said:

it's march.  everyone is "coming on."

[IDIOTsavant 8502]

4 hours ago, futureman said:

it's march.  everyone is "coming on."

 

[Codaxx 5833]

On 3/18/2023 at 7:17 PM, Nope said:

Quinn will need to be a much better passer than VY was in college because he has no wheels, not a great benchmark to consider

It is true, but starting as a true freshmen as a pocket passer is not that common. I dont really count Ewers' time at OSU, since he had to change systems. This does not mean anything to how Quinn will turn out, but I pulled some stats on pocket passers as true freshmen (I dont think these guys redshirted, but going off memory)

	Comp	Att	Comp%	Yards	yds/att	TD	Int
Manning	89	144	61.80%	1141	7.9	11	6
Palmer	130	235	55.30%	1755	7.5	7	6
Lawrence	259	397	65.20%	3280	8.3	30	4
Ewers	172	296	58.10%	2177	7.4	15	6
Marino	130	222	58.60%	1680	7.6	10	9
Rivers	237	441	53.70%	3054	6.9	25	10

 

Lawrence is really the only one to light up the world. Most were average to below average college Qbs in year 1. 

Edited March 20, 2023 by Codaxx

[Reese Bennett 3615]

Looks like we made it through Spring Break without any arrests or embarrassments. Good job team.

[Vertigo 20331]

24 minutes ago, Reese Bennett said:

Looks like we made it through Spring Break without any arrests or embarrassments. Good job team.

[Park Gothic 5064]

27 minutes ago, Reese Bennett said:

Looks like we made it through Spring Break without any arrests or embarrassments. Good job team.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18563]

3 hours ago, Codaxx said:

It is true, but starting as a true freshmen as a pocket passer is not that common. I dont really count Ewers' time at OSU, since he had to change systems. This does not mean anything to how Quinn will turn out, but I pulled some stats on pocket passers as true freshmen (I dont think these guys redshirted, but going off memory)

	Comp	Att	Comp%	Yards	yds/att	TD	Int
Manning	89	144	61.80%	1141	7.9	11	6
Palmer	130	235	55.30%	1755	7.5	7	6
Lawrence	259	397	65.20%	3280	8.3	30	4
Ewers	172	296	58.10%	2177	7.4	15	6
Marino	130	222	58.60%	1680	7.6	10	9
Rivers	237	441	53.70%	3054	6.9	25	10

 

Lawrence is really the only one to light up the world. Most were average to below average college Qbs in year 1. 

Thanks for the numbers, but the game has changed a ton since a lot of those guys played other than Lawrence.

Did Mahomes redshirt? His numbers weren't too far off from Ewers in a 7 game sample.

Mahomes 105    185    56.8%    1547    8.4    16    4    

[TexArcher 38047]

On 3/17/2023 at 11:10 AM, conVINCEd said:

If Ewers is good and we can stay relatively healthy at WR we are going to fuck everybody up on our way out of this shithole conference.

 

[TexasTroll 454]

36 minutes ago, Reese Bennett said:

Looks like we made it through Spring Break without any arrests or embarrassments. Good job team.

[Codaxx 5833]

2 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Thanks for the numbers, but the game has changed a ton since a lot of those guys played other than Lawrence.

Did Mahomes redshirt? His numbers weren't too far off from Ewers in a 7 game sample.

Mahomes 105    185    56.8%    1547    8.4    16    4    

comparisons are all pretty shitty. Hard to find apples to apples situation. That said I think it fair to assume Ewers will improve. The question is how much. I dont think anyone will know that, until about October. Hoping to see a Sam Ehlinger jump (11 TDs and 7 ints to 25 TDs and 5 ints as a soph)

[closetohumping 17461]

[Red Five 40884]

I'm told that Cook and Mitchell are fully bought in, and are turning heads, in addition to flashing. Once source said that they can catch balls downfield, which separates them from the other receivers on the roster. On one play, Manning overthrew Cook in the back of the end zone, but he kept one foot inbounds while the rest of his body was somewhere around row 9 of the end zone. "touchdown", said other members of the team, clearly impressed. 

[Reese Bennett 3615]

10 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I'm told that Cook and Mitchell are fully bought in, and are turning heads, in addition to flashing. Once source said that they can catch balls downfield, which separates them from the other receivers on the roster. On one play, Manning overthrew Cook in the back of the end zone, but he kept one foot inbounds while the rest of his body was somewhere around row 9 of the end zone. "touchdown", said other members of the team, clearly impressed. 

This aligns with what I was told: On one play, Ewers overthrew Cain on a post route, but Mitchell was able to break off of his 10-yard curl and track the ball down in the back of the endzone. Folks on hand say both Cook and Mitchell make those kind of plays look routine.