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Criteria to give Rodney Terry the job  

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  1. 1. If you were CDC, what would it take this season for you to offer Rodney Terry the full-time job?

    • He has already earned it. Give him the job.
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    • Beat Colgate
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    • Advance to the Sweet 16 (likely beating Aggy)
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    • Advance to the Elite 8
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    • Advance to the Final Four
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    • Advance to the Championship
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    • Win the National Title
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    • He cannot earn it. Nothing this season will erase his previous mediocre performance.
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  On 3/26/2023 at 11:33 PM, closetohumping said:

I think this may be where this is headed.  I don’t think it was a coaching issue per se but we blew it.  Gerry and Bobby said Rodney already has the job, but the bowels leak was interesting.  This one hurt.  Fml

 

for the record, I still think Rodney earned it but I’d a top 15 guy is available, let’s listen

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No. You don’t listen. You hire him. This was a meltdown driven by the players that got you here. Wasn’t RT’s finest 2nd half coaching job, but shit happens when your stud big goes down and your stud PG gets an Omir knee the hammy and your stud midrange guy starts inexplicably throwing the ball to the other team. The players that got us here either weren’t available, were hobbled or didn’t execute down the stretch. Also shit happens when you get cornholed by poor officiating.  And I loathe people that bitch about refs.

There is not one fucking phone call CDC is taking or making. The job is RT’s and will likely be announced in the next week or two. A lot of y’all are smoking crack. 

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  On 3/26/2023 at 11:38 PM, Juke_Em said:

Terry gets the job as a placeholder for a few years but then will get the ax. Chris Beard has a few decent seasons at Ole Miss, behaves off the court and will be back

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  On 3/26/2023 at 11:41 PM, kingkoopa6 said:

Can we not get CB back? What’s the deal ?

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Y’all gotta get over Chris Beard. If you’re serious, you’re being stupid and if you’re trolling, it’s not even funny.

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  On 3/26/2023 at 11:50 PM, Js1 said:

If the job is RT’s, why wait 2 fucking weeks? Announce it tomorrow 

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Depends on contract negotiation which probably hasn’t started in earnest because he’s been busy. Then when do you want to announce?  Before the FF or after?  I suspect it’ll be announced this Tuesday but could be next Tuesday. 

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  On 3/26/2023 at 11:41 PM, ztejas said:

I'm fine if he gets the job - and I think he can improve as a coach - but I'm also fine if we land someone truly elite instead.

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  On 3/26/2023 at 11:50 PM, Js1 said:

If the job is RT’s, why wait 2 fucking weeks? Announce it tomorrow 

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I imagine that's what CDC will do--reveal Terry as the HC during the coming week.

And I'm fine with that. Do I have confidence that he'll sustain this level of success? No, but he's earned a shot and--let's be honest here--there don't seem to be a great many alternatives.

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I don't keep Terry if it is my decision to make.  He would not have been in the discussion had he not been a bench coach here when Beard went out.  I think we have seen his ceiling. 

If Terry is the best coach we can get then there is a massive problem with the program.

 

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  On 3/27/2023 at 12:42 AM, petscii said:

I don't keep Terry if it is my decision to make.  He would not have been in the discussion had he not been a bench coach here when Beard went out.  I think we have seen his ceiling. 

If Terry is the best coach we can get then there is a massive problem with the program.

 

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I can think of 50 coaches more qualified.  I think RT did win the job and deserves a shot.  However I’ve said cdc should go big game hunting.  Ultimately an argument can be made either way 

  On 3/27/2023 at 1:00 AM, Rockethorn1978 said:

If it’s not announced soon this week then Donovan has to be it with the nba season over in like 10 days.

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Feels like it should be announced this week.  The only thing that popped up was bowels tweet

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  On 3/26/2023 at 11:41 PM, ztejas said:

Making the FF is hard. It's about repeatedly getting to the EE because better teams lose all the time in the tourney.  

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This is the thing with a single elimination college basketball tournament. Weird shit happens. Any bar for basketball beyond "compete for the conference and get to the second weekend with regularity" is just dumb. 

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  On 3/26/2023 at 11:47 PM, FORTY NINE TO ZERO said:

If Billy Donovan is truly an option, you have to seriously consider it.

 

if not, stick with RT 

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Of course you do. But Billy Donavan is not an option. Any engagement Billy Donavan is having with Texas is for the sole purpose of making the Bulls commit to an extension.

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Terry will likely get the job, but I doubt he sniffs this level of success again before he is canned in 3-4 years. Next year we start to see the beginning of the mean reversion. Hope we get to keep the assistants. I would like nothing more than Terry to prove me wrong. I appreciate what he has done for Texas MBB this year. 

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  On 3/27/2023 at 12:42 AM, petscii said:

I don't keep Terry if it is my decision to make.  He would not have been in the discussion had he not been a bench coach here when Beard went out.  I think we have seen his ceiling. 

If Terry is the best coach we can get then there is a massive problem with the program.

 

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Who do you think we can get?

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  On 3/27/2023 at 1:06 AM, gmr548 said:

Of course you do. But Billy Donavan is not an option. Any engagement Billy Donavan is having with Texas is for the sole purpose of making the Bulls commit to an extension.

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I don’t know shit about fuck but maybe Billy is sick of the pro game and just wants to teach and coach?

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  On 3/27/2023 at 12:42 AM, petscii said:

I don't keep Terry if it is my decision to make.  He would not have been in the discussion had he not been a bench coach here when Beard went out.  I think we have seen his ceiling. 

If Terry is the best coach we can get then there is a massive problem with the program.

 

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Name a coach. Name any fucking coach.

We do this shit every time there is an opening. We believe we can just buy John Wooden and Nick Saban because we're Texas and the AD makes a bunch of money.

That has NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED.

Our best hire was Mack Brown... Whom people didn't want because he hadn't done enough.

(Yeah, I know everyone is going to pile on and say DKR, but that will be a whole different thread, so just skip it.)

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  On 3/27/2023 at 1:13 AM, CycleTex87 said:

We fell over backwards to grab Shaka after one trip to the final four. Anybody in this year’s FF you would take over RT?

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I’m fine with Terry but Miamis coach was the one who took George Mason to the final four.

(He’s 73 BTW)

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  On 3/27/2023 at 1:15 AM, Slacks said:

Name a coach. Name any fucking coach.

We do this shit every time there is an opening. We believe we can just buy John Wooden and Nick Saban because we're Texas and the AD makes a bunch of money.

That has NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED.

Our best hire was Mack Brown... Whom people didn't want because he hadn't done enough.

(Yeah, I know everyone is going to pile on and say DKR, but that will be a whole different thread, so just skip it.)

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But . . . we're Texas.

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  On 3/27/2023 at 1:08 AM, closetohumping said:

I don’t know shit about fuck but maybe Billy is sick of the pro game and just wants to teach and coach?

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I can't edit but I will say I stand somewhat corrected on the extension thing. His original deal in Chicago ran through next year. I remember it being an issue over the offseason that they didn't come to an agreement but evidently they announced one. Terms not disclosed but that would give him two years left on his contract, absolute minimum. He may be pushing for a longer term commitment or raise with the Bulls getting hot right now if it was just a token year, but the extension thing is not the obvious factor I thought it was.

Honestly, between one and dones and transfer portal happenings, I feel like your roster is more stable and you do more actual teaching/coaching in the NBA.

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  On 3/27/2023 at 12:02 AM, Braff Zacklin said:

 

I imagine that's what CDC will do--reveal Terry as the HC during the coming week.

And I'm fine with that. Do I have confidence that he'll sustain this level of success? No, but he's earned a shot and--let's be honest here--there don't seem to be a great many alternatives.

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I don’t know if he can sustain this level of success. I really don’t know. But I’ll root for him, and you’re right: he’s earned the shot. Today was not on him. Frustrating as it was I can see a lot of great coaches losing that game. If it’s anyone else (and the thought is so absurd I won’t entertain it), I’d be pissed at my school for not giving him the opportunity he’s deserved. 

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  On 3/27/2023 at 1:16 AM, gmr548 said:

I can't edit but I will say I stand somewhat corrected on the extension thing. His original deal in Chicago ran through next year. I remember it being an issue over the offseason that they didn't come to an agreement but evidently they announced one. Terms not disclosed but that would give him two years left on his contract, absolute minimum. He may be pushing for a longer term commitment or raise with the Bulls getting hot right now if it was just a token year, but the extension thing is not the obvious factor I thought it was.

Honestly, between one and dones and transfer portal happenings, I feel like your roster is more stable and you do more actual teaching/coaching in the NBA.

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Naw.  Respectfully disagree.  The truly elite top ten talent types will go the route of Scoot and Victor.  College will be full of 3 year guys and mid tier talent who want to develop their game, understand that a coaches word means a lot, and wants that alumni network.  
 

You can’t teach nba players shit. See Russ, Ja, luka etc.  they make a shit ton of money, get coaches fired and all about that social media life. Feels like Billy wants to say fuck this shit

 

aldo our best nba talent is Mitchell and Morris.  Not sure guys like Allen, hunter , carr etc get top ten money.  They’re all coachable but not elite talents.  
 

portal won’t be bad for schools like ours.  We will rebuild quickly 

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I love RT as a person, keep him for a couple years if he can keep the recruits and team together and see what happens.  Don’t sign him to a six year contract though.  Sign him for a solid  three and see what happens. 

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  On 3/27/2023 at 1:25 AM, Porterhouse said:

I don’t know if he can sustain this level of success. I really don’t know. But I’ll root for him, and you’re right: he’s earned the shot. Today was not on him. Frustrating as it was I can see a lot of great coaches losing that game. If it’s anyone else (and the thought is so absurd I won’t entertain it), I’d be pissed at my school for not giving him the opportunity he’s deserved. 

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We went away from Morris after back to back 3s.  Some of it was on him.  He deserves the job.  Could we do better?  Probably.  But imo best case right now is give him the job 

  On 3/27/2023 at 1:28 AM, Porterhouse said:

You don’t know shit about fuck, and at this point I’m thinking you’re schizo. 

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Cheers man

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  On 3/27/2023 at 1:28 AM, jimmyjazz said:

Why would the Bulls extend a guy who is 2 games under 0.500 in his tenure there?

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As a lifelong Chicago Bulls fan I see you are not familiar with the franchise.

Jokes aside (although that's not entirely a joke), his record isn't fully indicative of his performance in that he inherited a genuinely bad roster and has gotten the team to play pretty good basketball when the current roster looks like it's supposed to - with Lonzo Ball and now again with Pat Bev.

But my point is that Donavan would be using Texas as leverage in contract negotiations if there's been any contact. I'm less certain of that now but still possible.

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  On 3/27/2023 at 1:31 AM, Hook1997 said:

I love RT as a person, keep him for a couple years if he can keep the recruits and team together and see what happens.  Don’t sign him to a six year contract though.  Sign him for a solid  three and see what happens. 

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Nobody is getting RT to sign a 3 year contract. Don’t know why that keeps getting shit out of peoples mouths.

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In the day and age of NIL and the portal, half the battle is getting people to care and players to come to your program and stick around. You are seeing coaches who were strictly X’s and O’s/hardass guys in various sports who are failing because they can’t adapt to the new age of college athletics.

Terry seems to have the backing of current and former players, and that is not insignificant because that kind of stuff matters. 

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