What would it take for Rodney Terry to earn the job?

[shadow_operative 15931]

40 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Why do you engage the fucking stooge that is shadow_operative? He is easily one of the least knowlegable basketball posters on this site.

i seriously doubt you even know which one of us is which, because if you did you wouldn't have said what you just said. 

[shadow_operative 15931]

anyone here who actually believes that anyone else here thinks that rodney terry should be fired even if he makes the FF/wins the whole thing is a hapless, helpless moron with no hope of ever recovering. also you're a beating. 

[Murfdogg21 4412]

16 hours ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

I’ve also said you don’t make long term program decisions in a vacuum of emotion and I don’t cdc will and up to this point he’s done a great job of hiring coaches. I trust his process of letting this season play out first then making a decision. Hell maybe he’s already made one and just wants the team to stay focused. 

But emotional reactionary surly is best surly?

If we’d lost in the Big12 tournament or the first two rounds, most would have been screaming for Terry’s ousting. Now we’re on a TJ Ford run and Terry is the next Coach K and CDC is a fool if he doesn’t make this man a top 5 paid coach with 5 years fully guaranteed. Wide mood swings. If we get run off the floor by Miami, watch how fast the pendulum will swing the other way. 

[hornbri 1367]

10 hours ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

You would be a very poor businessman. Why not just pay the man his money and fully guarantee everything? It isn't my money right? 

There are many reasons you should care how he is paid. First, giving people high buyout, 5 years, with elite level pay can absolutely create complacency. Ask yourself the flip question, why would he need it to have a high buyout without incentives if he is such a stud coach? Because all coaches arent totally sure they will deliver. Why negotiate against yourself? 

 

Second, if we pay him too much and guarantee too much and also make too high of a buyout. It will be harder to get rid of him if he flames out. It makes it more difficult to pivot and pay a coach with an elite resume to come in and take over the program. We dont want another Shaka situation where we suffer in mediocrity because we are stuck with a big contract and a high buyout. 

 

Third, coaches will take notice of what is happening with Terry, they see a guy with no elite level coaching experience get an elite level contract, that will be used against you the next time you come to the table to get a good coach. The agent will say "My client has won a national championship and been successful in major conferences and Terry had nowhere near that amount of success and got XYZ as his terms. My client deserves much better than that."

 

And lastly, you should care if your university is being wasteful with money and making bad decisions. Salaries are already insanely inflated as it is. I would rather see us be strategic and not stupid with the money we do have. It is a pretty stupid take to say we should be reckless with money just because we have it. That's how you end up like the dipshit aggies strapped to Jimbo and pissing away millions upon millions due to piss poor decision making. 

Congrats - This is some of the dumbest shit i have ever seen posted on this site. 

[Slacks 6791]

21 hours ago, BERT said:

What size cock we talking here?

Damnit, swypo

[Slacks 6791]

20 hours ago, victory88 said:

Some of you act like Rodney can’t recruit.  He was huge in getting guys to Texas while Barnes was here.  Some big time names that are in the NBA.  Ron Holland and AJ Johnson are not coming here without Rodney Terry.  The guy can recruit and he’s a great defensive coach.  He clearly has eye for talent as Rice was a guy Terry brought to Beard.  The players love to play for him.  He’s out coached some very good coaches head to head this season.  He understand Texas basketball probably better than any coach out there outside of Barnes.  I wouldn’t be surprised if he had very good success here.  Hell we are playing better now than we ever were under Beard.  This is the most fun I’ve had watching Texas bball since the peak Barnes years.  Guy has earned the job and has kicked ass in every way while being the interim coach.  

Team Win.

[Slacks 6791]

20 hours ago, Pancho said:

I don’t think most are concerned about the recruiting rather the concern is keeping the staff together. 

Goal posts movement again?

"Can he keep the team focused.'

"Can he coach?"

"Can he win?"

"Can he recruit?"

"Can he build a roster (or rooster)?"

"Can he keep the assistants?"

 

He can't do any of that without the opportunity.  He's done everything he's had a chance to do. At this point he's proven more than anybody else can prove in the time frame created by Beard's dismissal.

How much magic is required to just roll with it?

[Pato del Muerto 52322]

It could be serendipity. He could take the job and, using his success this season and his strengths, run with it and  do more great things.  
and people would say how lucky we were. Maybe they’d be right, but giving him the opportunity isn’t luck- it’s the choice to be made right now. 
 

yeah it could also fail. As could hiring Shaka smart. 

[MotownHorn 1724]

CDC: RT is your girlfriend a redhead, by any chance?

RT: No sir!

CDC: Ok congratulations. The job is yours.

[closetohumping 17380]

14 minutes ago, Slacks said:

Goal posts movement again?

"Can he keep the team focused.'

"Can he coach?"

"Can he win?"

"Can he recruit?"

"Can he build a roster (or rooster)?"

"Can he keep the assistants?"

 

He can't do any of that without the opportunity.  He's done everything he's had a chance to do. At this point he's proven more than anybody else can prove in the time frame created by Beard's dismissal.

How much magic is required to just roll with it?

And there’s a lot of sub categories within  Each. Can he win the conference tourney?   Can he win the regular tourney.   Can he do it without Chris’s handpicked players.  Can he win the Bahamas classic?

 

will austin traffic drive him crazy if he decides to move out to lake Travis?

[South Austin 52037]

5 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

will austin traffic drive him crazy if he decides to move out to lake Travis?

[Sawbonz 27375]

29 minutes ago, Slacks said:

How much magic is required to just roll with it?

Personally I would like to have seen him fail at some bigger named programs and then “redeem” himself, first as an assistant and then successful interim here. You know the “traditional” retread coaching pathway. But I don’t think he possessed the key attributes those coaches seem to have

 

But I think if you had a depigmentation potion, that would allay much of the concerns around here

 

 

[closetohumping 17380]

9 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Why do you engage the fucking stooge that is shadow_operative? He is easily one of the least knowlegable basketball posters on this site.

He’s actually ok until he gets triggered.  When the name calling starts is usually the best time to disengage as he takes everything way too personal.  
 

so he may go in the bucket with futureman 

29 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

 

 

But I think if you had a depigmentation potion, that would allay much of the concerns around here

 

 

Just gotta find Michael Jackson’s old doctor.  He probably has it.   Not sure if that will help with the mumbling and disorganization 

Edited March 26, 2023 by closetohumping

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39 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Personally I would like to have seen him fail at some bigger named programs and then “redeem” himself, first as an assistant and then successful interim here. You know the “traditional” retread coaching pathway. But I don’t think he possessed the key attributes those coaches seem to have

 

But I think if you had a depigmentation potion, that would allay much of the concerns around here

 

 

 

13 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

He’s actually ok until he gets triggered.  When the name calling starts is usually the best time to disengage as he takes everything way too personal.  
 

so he may go in the bucket with futureman 

Just gotta find Michael Jackson’s old doctor.  He probably has it.   Not sure if that will help with the mumbling and disorganization 

Insanity. Nobody is even subconsciously critical of RT because he’s black. Y’all are making shit up.  Also, @futuremandoesn’t belong in that bucket (where I have Derka too).  If he’s there, you take yourself entirely too seriously.

I voted Sweet 16 in this dumbass thread. It amazes me Texas fans think so highly of our history that they think Billy Donovan is an option. Particularly with RT doing so well. Terry’s had the job for over a week now, and rightfully so. There is no non-emotional search going on for a pipedream. 

[ClubWhatever 12085]

It’s dumb to use one tournament run (good or bad) as the basis to hire a coach.  

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1 minute ago, ClubWhatever said:

It’s dumb to use one tournament run (good or bad) as the basis to hire a coach.  

How about the fact that he can recruit?  Kept the wheels on a season when a major adverse event occurred?  Went 12-6 in conference, won that conference’s tourney, is poised to have led Texas to its first 30-win season since ‘08, and its fourth ever Final Four and first in 20 years?

What a dumb fucking post. 

[Pato del Muerto 52322]

5 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

It’s dumb to use one tournament run (good or bad) as the basis to hire a coach.  

There is if he’s making the run as your coach.  Unless someone like bill self or jay Wright wants the job, and that’s who you announce as coach, it’s a shitty thing to do to take a guy that inherited a good team under bad circumstances and then took them to the E8 or better, and say thanks but that’s all we need from you now we are hiring this other guy. Players see that, coaches see that, and it effects their willingness to play and coach for you. 
 

guys lobbying for him a month ago as the only choice, that was premature. 
 

his tenures at Fresno and utep didn’t suddenly change, but those are hardly the current circumstances he finds himself in now with the Texas brand and nil and etc. 

 

no man can walk in the same river twice, for it is not the same river, and he is not the same man.  -Heraclitus 

[idigTexas 2258]

5 minutes ago, Porterhouse said:

How about the fact that he can recruit?  Kept the wheels on a season when a major adverse event occurred?  Went 12-6 in conference, won that conference’s tourney, is poised to have led Texas to its first 30-win season since ‘08, and its fourth ever Final Four and first in 20 years?

What a dumb fucking post. 

Who are you calling dumb?  He just agreed with you.

[Asithappens 974]

14 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

It’s dumb to use one tournament run (good or bad) as the basis to hire a coach.  

No, it's not. A good tournament run can be a valid basis. Win 6 games and win a national title? 

How is that dumb? 

So let's use two tourney runs. Is that better?

Edited March 26, 2023 by Asithappens

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, idigTexas said:

Who are you calling dumb?  He just agreed with you.

You have reading comprehension issues.  Until you clear that up you’re a waste of my time. 

[idigTexas 2258]

2 minutes ago, Porterhouse said:

You have reading comprehension issues.  Until you clear that up you’re a waste of my time. 

Read his post again, and then read yours, and then get back to me about reading comprehension.  Here, I'll spell it out for you.

Dude said it is dumb to make the hire based on one tournament run.  You responded with five other reasons why Terry might be qualified that have nothing to do with the tournament run, thus making his point.   

I never said that his statement was in support of Terry.  I merely stated that you both are in agreement that a tournament run alone should not be the only reason to hire a coach. 

[ChickenSandwich 9797]

I could argue that many coaches would be capable of taking over this team like RT and keep the wheels on. 
 

I don’t think their are many, almost zero available, who would then go on to win the conference tournament and make the Elite 8. 
 

He’s proven himself in the regular and post season as a great to elite coach. If he struggles to recruit or roster build, focus resources on that weakness, if it becomes one, because the man can coach if you give him the team to do so. 

[demos 2992]

Goal posts movement again?
"Can he keep the team focused.'
"Can he coach?"
"Can he win?"
"Can he recruit?"
"Can he build a roster (or rooster)?"
"Can he keep the assistants?"
 
He can't do any of that without the opportunity.  He's done everything he's had a chance to do. At this point he's proven more than anybody else can prove in the time frame created by Beard's dismissal.
How much magic is required to just roll with it?

Well, can he build a rooster? That’s critical info. Be kinda cool if he could.

[HtownHorn 14446]

1 hour ago, closetohumping said:

He’s actually ok until he gets triggered.  When the name calling starts is usually the best time to disengage as he takes everything way too personal.  

He literally said that Terry could win the national championship and Texas could find a better coach. There is no reason to discuss anything further with anyone this stupid. Not to mention he has the emotional maturity of Dylan Mulvaney.

[shadow_operative 15931]

18 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

He literally said that Terry could win the national championship and Texas could find a better coach. 

i have so many questions.

[HtownHorn 14446]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

There is if he’s making the run as your coach.  Unless someone like bill self or jay Wright wants the job, and that’s who you announce as coach, it’s a shitty thing to do to take a guy that inherited a good team under bad circumstances and then took them to the E8 or better, and say thanks but that’s all we need from you now we are hiring this other guy. Players see that, coaches see that, and it effects their willingness to play and coach for you. 
 

guys lobbying for him a month ago as the only choice, that was premature. 
 

his tenures at Fresno and utep didn’t suddenly change, but those are hardly the current circumstances he finds himself in now with the Texas brand and nil and etc. 

 

no man can walk in the same river twice, for it is not the same river, and he is not the same man.  -Heraclitus 

People keep using Fresno State against him. Fresno State is a dogshit program that he actually took to the tournament. It's not the negative flex you guys think it is. I just look at their history and I laugh when people keep using it against him.

 

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25 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

He literally said that Terry could win the national championship and Texas could find a better coach. There is no reason to discuss anything further with anyone this stupid. Not to mention he has the emotional maturity of Dylan Mulvaney.

That’s a tough benchmark.  Alot of great coaches haven’t won it all.  
 

quite a few need us to make it to the finals though. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, idigTexas said:

Read his post again, and then read yours, and then get back to me about reading comprehension.  Here, I'll spell it out for you.

Dude said it is dumb to make the hire based on one tournament run.  You responded with five other reasons why Terry might be qualified that have nothing to do with the tournament run, thus making his point.   

I never said that his statement was in support of Terry.  I merely stated that you both are in agreement that a tournament run alone should not be the only reason to hire a coach. 

That’s a very odd interpretation of what his clear intent was: this successful tournament run doesn’t matter. Of course it fucking matters. I don’t agree with him, and you’re a fucking weirdo. 

[HtownHorn 14446]

Just now, Porterhouse said:

That’s a very odd interpretation of what his clear intent was: this successful tournament run doesn’t matter. Of course it fucking matters. I don’t agree with him, and you’re a fucking weirdo. 

This is what I don't understand about it. This isn't a run at some other job, he's doing it at Texas. We don't have to guess what he would do if he was coaching at Texas, because he is showing us. Of course, this run matters, because he's doing it here.

[GringoSalado 1651]

2 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

It’s dumb to use one tournament run (good or bad) as the basis to hire a coach.  

Not that I disagree but this happens almost every year.

 

My other response would be of course we know this because we hired Shaka Smart.

[formermav43 4599]

2 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

Personally I would like to have seen him fail at some bigger named programs and then “redeem” himself, first as an assistant and then successful interim here. You know the “traditional” retread coaching pathway. But I don’t think he possessed the key attributes those coaches seem to have

 

But I think if you had a depigmentation potion, that would allay much of the concerns around here

 

 

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1 hour ago, Asithappens said:

No, it's not. A good tournament run can be a valid basis. Win 6 games and win a national title? 

How is that dumb? 

So let's use two tourney runs. Is that better?

As it happens, yes, two tourney runs and two national titles is better than one. 

[markstanco 12489]

This is so dumb. He will be the coach next year, those of you screaming for a contract now: brilliant. Let’s distract what’s going on now with contract negotiations because God forbid it can’t start in 10 days.

[tx ind 6996]

17 hours ago, closetohumping said:

Choking his spouse

beating up a colleague like a coach in another sport.  
 

being so close minded that he thought Lee Harvey oswalt acted alone

[closetohumping 17380]

29 minutes ago, tx ind said:

Remember when it was him, Miller and Redding?

[Sawbonz 27375]

5 hours ago, Porterhouse said:

Nobody is even subconsciously critical of RT because he’s black

 

 

6 hours ago, closetohumping said:

Not sure if that will help with the mumbling

Hmmm

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36 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

 

 

Hmmm

Quite a stretch given he’s the biggest RT cheerleader out there. There is no contingent out there who’s anti RT because of race. It has everything to with his past HC experience, which is irrelevant at this very fucking moment. You seem to want to make this about race. I won’t ever understand people like you. 

[Sawbonz 27375]

11 minutes ago, Porterhouse said:

Quite a stretch given he’s the biggest RT cheerleader out there. There is no contingent out there who’s anti RT because of race. It has everything to with his past HC experience, which is irrelevant at this very fucking moment. You seem to want to make this about race. I won’t ever understand people like you. 

I thought it was tongue and cheek reference to other posters’ criticizing RT for the way he speaks. If no one has ok. I’m not going to scour the thread.  I honestly won’t lose any sleep knowing you don’t understand me

Edited March 26, 2023 by Sawbonz

[Slacks 6791]

7 hours ago, closetohumping said:

He’s actually ok until he gets triggered.  When the name calling starts is usually the best time to disengage as he takes everything way too personal.  
 

so he may go in the bucket with futureman 

Just gotta find Michael Jackson’s old doctor.  He probably has it.   Not sure if that will help with the mumbling and disorganization 

Michael Jackson had Vitiligo.... Maybe Terry will develop it after this game?

[closetohumping 17380]

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

 

 

Hmmm

My post was a tongue in cheek response to some of Rodney’s critics.    One was he mumbled and couldn’t speak.  The other was “yea he can recruit but can he ORGANIZE a roster”

[Sawbonz 27375]

^^see my later post

[Guest]

Well by all means be fixated on isolated comments. 

[TrashMaster G 17379]

Nope. Don't give him the job.

They likely will, but they shouldn't. 

[perfectchaos007 6593]

I stand by my original post. Job is probably his, but only a final 4 would have guaranteed it. Lets take phone calls before giving it to RT

[Hookem2147 20910]

You if you were judging whether he should get the job based on the result of one game, then you weren’t going to be happy either way in the long run.

[closetohumping 17380]

3 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

I stand by my original post. Job is probably his, but only a final 4 would have guaranteed it. Lets take phone calls before giving it to RT

I think this may be where this is headed.  I don’t think it was a coaching issue per se but we blew it.  Gerry and Bobby said Rodney already has the job, but the bowels leak was interesting.  This one hurt.  Fml

 

for the record, I still think Rodney earned it but I’d a top 15 guy is available, let’s listen

[GreenspointTexas 9556]

7 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

I stand by my original post. Job is probably his, but only a final 4 would have guaranteed it. Lets take phone calls before giving it to RT

This

[Juke_Em 47]

Terry gets the job as a placeholder for a few years but then will get the ax. Chris Beard has a few decent seasons at Ole Miss, behaves off the court and will be back

[ztejas 43244]

Terry did the same shit that I was complaining about when he first took over and rested guys in foul trouble too soon/for too long. He did it with Brock and Bishop both in the 2H. And the repeated posting up of Timmy was dumb - first of all he isn't a good foul shooter and second of all we did Miami a favor by slowing the game down. Just not a great coaching job in the 2H.

That said, if Disu goes I think we win this game. Maybe even if Carr doesn't get banged up. But you don't get rosters like this very often. We won't have anyone as good as Carr next season and the role guys won't be as good. 

I'm fine if he gets the job - and I think he can improve as a coach - but I'm also fine if we land someone truly elite instead.

Making the FF is hard. It's about repeatedly getting to the EE because better teams lose all the time in the tourney.  

[kingkoopa6 8305]

Can we not get CB back? What’s the deal ?