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On 3/7/2024 at 6:31 PM, Armybrat said:

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This post should not go unappreciated. That car really floats my boat.

I really think I may do a restoration of a Sunbeam Alpine to match what Grace Kelly drove in To Catch A Thief.

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15 hours ago, Party_Taco said:

Caught this beauty at Central Market this evening… betting that it belongs to a member of the Najo Average Orchestra playing there tonight…

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Going with the typical theme of Surlys, the inspection is past due, therefore, I would not drive it.

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First box of parts from Summit Racing arrived.  New oil pan.  Can’t wait to build the new engine, block is currently getting a dip and hone.

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Body shop sent me a picture of the painted cowl.  They are waiting for lower humidity to paint the body.  Said they won’t send pics of the body, I have to come see it in person. :)

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10 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

First box of parts from Summit Racing arrived.  New oil pan.  Can’t wait to build the new engine, block is currently getting a dip and hone.

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Body shop sent me a picture of the painted cowl.  They are waiting for lower humidity to paint the body.  Said they won’t send pics of the body, I have to come see it in person. :)

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Lower humidity - better plan for a Christmas paint job  :)

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Still amazes me how different the blue paint looks from picture to picture. However I am happy with how it looks in person. Also it never look like the factory job- this is 2 stage versus one stage cellulose paint

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It is going to be a beautiful new car, and I can hardly wait to see its finished photos. 
Is that an original or reproduction ‘62 chrome grill?

However, I sure hope it isn’t going to have a Lucas Electrics wiring harness, two six volt batteries, and non-fireproof floorboards.
Guess you know what I am talking about. 😁

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I've had my 69' C10 for 20 years now.  Great truck, but nothing fancy.  I've always only carried liability insurance on it because of all of the restrictions associated with guaranteed value full coverage.  I just learned that Hagerty has policies that don't have mileage limiters and don't require vehicles to be kept in the garage.  Still can't be a daily driver, but that just means you might have to show proof of owning another vehicle.  I just got a new Hagerty policy that has collision and comp for about $100 more per year than my previous liability policy.

Not sure if anyone else is in a similar situation, but I thought I'd pass along the info.

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2 hours ago, Armybrat said:

It is going to be a beautiful new car, and I can hardly wait to see its finished photos. 
Is that an original or reproduction ‘62 chrome grill?

However, I sure hope it isn’t going to have a Lucas Electrics wiring harness, two six volt batteries, and non-fireproof floorboards.
Guess you know what I am talking about. 😁

It's a new harness and will be one 12V positive ground battery. Also original grill - a replacement by the guys doing the work. All my chrome is or will be original except hubcaps. Everyone wants 150 per cap I can buy 4 new ones for 150. Also the wing mirrors will be Lucas clones since OEM is unobtainable. I definitely what what you are talking about. Back in college on my first one the starter switch - it is a pull cable to the switch that sends to starter - shorted out while eating lunch. The arc was similar to an arc welder until battery drained. Melted about a foot of the harness. Luckily I got to Sears and bought wire and crimps. Car was running by dinner. had to crank start a few days until a new switch arrived.

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1 hour ago, Jerry Callo said:

I've had my 69' C10 for 20 years now.  Great truck, but nothing fancy.  I've always only carried liability insurance on it because of all of the restrictions associated with guaranteed value full coverage.  I just learned that Hagerty has policies that don't have mileage limiters and don't require vehicles to be kept in the garage.  Still can't be a daily driver, but that just means you might have to show proof of owning another vehicle.  I just got a new Hagerty policy that has collision and comp for about $100 more per year than my previous liability policy.

Not sure if anyone else is in a similar situation, but I thought I'd pass along the info.

Interesting - I have Haggerty on the MGA and they require a garage

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59 minutes ago, AUinHsv said:

It's a new harness and will be one 12V positive ground battery. Also original grill - a replacement by the guys doing the work. All my chrome is or will be original except hubcaps. Everyone wants 150 per cap I can buy 4 new ones for 150. Also the wing mirrors will be Lucas clones since OEM is unobtainable. I definitely what what you are talking about. Back in college on my first one the starter switch - it is a pull cable to the switch that sends to starter - shorted out while eating lunch. The arc was similar to an arc welder until battery drained. Melted about a foot of the harness. Luckily I got to Sears and bought wire and crimps. Car was running by dinner. had to crank start a few days until a new switch arrived.

I may have posted awhile ago that one time my 1960 MGA floorboard (under my drivers seat) caught on fire. 
Pulled over on the side of 290 in NE Austin with smoke billowing out from under my seat. 
Popped the seat bottom out and saw a hole the size of my fist with the edges glowing like red hot charcoal…..and getting bigger. 
Long story short - since in 1965 it was before the days when everyone carried a water bottle in their car, I wound up having to piss on the hole to put it out. 
Steaming pee has a quite pungent odor, to say the least.

Apparently a couple days before when I had run over a big chunk of a tire on 183 north of Luling, the exhaust pipe had been jammed up against the underside of the wooden floorboard. Dunno why it didn’t catch fire sooner than it did. 
Anyway, the next day I used one of my Mom’s stove top burner covers (sheet metal with asbestos liner) to mount between the pipe and the floorboard. Drilled four holes and used household nuts, bolts & washers to secure it. Worked just fine until I sold the car a year later to an airman out at Bergstrom AFB for $600 cash.

Never quite got all the old piss smell out of it.

My car looked just like this one except for the badge bar between the bumper overriders. 
And mine had red leather seats.

(forgive me if I posted all this here before)

 

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10 hours ago, Jerry Callo said:

I'm on a classic truck/jeep policy, so that might be the difference.  I'm just glad to have better coverage.

To be fair I haven't read the policy in  a year or two. They might have changed it

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15 hours ago, AUinHsv said:

Only because  I had not seen it in 3-4 years - I drove up to Michigan where the work is being done. It getting closer to finished. Probably late summer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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It was good to get up there and see it. I did not realize how much minor detail stuff remains. The piping has to sit for several weeks or it will bunch up. Need to polish the gauge surrounds. I knew the cockpit rails and dash need recovering and that is a real pain. Lots of curves and angles done just right so it doesn't look like I did it. I am doing the interior when it gets back

 

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I wouldn't be shocked if Hagerty required ragtops to be garaged (my car with them is, and is, so I don't know...) but has no such requirement for hardtops and non-convertibles, but that's just a guess. 

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1 hour ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

I wouldn't be shocked if Hagerty required ragtops to be garaged (mine car with them is, and is) but has no such requirement for hardtops and non-convertibles, but that's just a guess. 

My son keeps his ‘69 with its original ragtop in the garage…

 

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I use Grundy.  For me they were just a lot cheaper for the same coverage and no issues driving it when I want to except for using to get to work. (No dice). You can call and tell them you have a car show at work you’re taking it to for approval.

Policy is agreed value like Hagerty and does require the car to be garaged.

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Today was the big day. Now I’ve got some assembly work to do.  Let me know if you need enclosed car transportation. This was awesome and stayed dry in the rain. 

It look like a full sized Hot Wheels car 

 

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On 6/13/2024 at 6:16 PM, Armybrat said:

Say, Earl Scheib has come a loooong way! 😉

My grandfather, the one who gave me the 1968 Riviera, was terrible at maintaining cars. Grandpa graduated from medical school in 1923, so even during The Great Depression he had money, or at least was paid in eggs, and meats and things. I even have a pool table from an old Pittsburgh pool hall because the owner needed to pay grandpa for a surgery. 

Anyway, the Riviera was bought new and for some damned reason, at some point in the late ‘70s, the Great Earl Scheib painted a good portion of the car. Now, I think there was no attempt at matching what was a beautiful color, Olive Gold Metallic, which was only on the Riviera in ‘68, no other General Motors car.

Well, it was an absolutely horrible paint job and just looked like shit. 

I got the car in high school, and like an ass I had the car painted black (ugh) and had the original vinyl top taken off. The original was lime green, very sharp with the Olive Gold. Thankfully, after I graduated from college, a few years after I had it all stripped and taken back to the original Olive Gold and found a sharp vinyl top, sort of a grey/slate color.

I have no idea how Earl Scheib ever grew past one location. It was awful.

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My grandfather, the one who gave me the 1968 Riviera, was terrible at maintaining cars. Grandpa graduated from medical school in 1923, so even during The Great Depression he had money, or at least was paid in eggs, and meats and things. I even have a pool table from an old Pittsburgh pool hall because the owner needed to pay grandpa for a surgery. 
Anyway, the Riviera was bought new and for some damned reason, at some point in the late ‘70s, the Great Earl Scheib painted a good portion of the car. Now, I think there was no attempt at matching what was a beautiful color, Olive Gold Metallic, which was only on the Riviera in ‘68, no other General Motors car.
Well, it was an absolutely horrible paint job and just looked like shit. 
I got the car in high school, and like an ass I had the car painted black (ugh) and had the original vinyl top taken off. The original was lime green, very sharp with the Olive Gold. Thankfully, after I graduated from college, a few years after I had it all stripped and taken back to the original Olive Gold and found a sharp vinyl top, sort of a grey/slate color.
I have no idea how Earl Scheib ever grew past one location. It was awful.

Earl Sheib was nation wide and widely known for cheap, shitty paint jobs.

Better keep that vinyl covered roof inside. The metal under it will deteriorate quickly if left outdoors. My Mustang roof was Swiss cheese when I restored it. Like flaky and had holes in it. Nothing between the vinyl top and the headliner.
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Heh, in 1984 my Mom - something of a car snob - wanted a new 98 Olds with a vinyl roof, but Dad was kinda tight with a buck and bought the 88 instead.
That didn’t sit well with her so Dad had the dealer install a white vinyl roof a month after the initial purchase. 
She was happy with that.

After she passed away in 1992 Dad sold it for a pittance even though it had a little over 8,000 miles on the clock.

 

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1 hour ago, Chad Fuck said:


Earl Sheib was nation wide and widely known for cheap, shitty paint jobs.

Better keep that vinyl covered roof inside. The metal under it will deteriorate quickly if left outdoors. My Mustang roof was Swiss cheese when I restored it. Like flaky and had holes in it. Nothing between the vinyl top and the headliner.

Oh, it is inside. It hasn't seen rain in over 30 years. It is babied more than the '98 911.

Had both of the cars out yesterday. It's amazing how so many people react to the Riviera. At three stop lights people in the next lane yelled over at me wanting to talk about the car. 

 

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25 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Heh, in 1984 my Mom - something of a car snob - wanted a new 98 Olds with a vinyl roof, but Dad was kinda tight with a buck and bought the 88 instead.
That didn’t sit well with her so Dad had the dealer install a white vinyl roof a month after the initial purchase. 
She was happy with that.

After she passed away in 1992 Dad sold it for a pittance even though it had a little over 8,000 miles on the clock.

 

We had a 1977 Olds Delta 88. It was an interesting car. It was supposed to have the Olds V-8 but, it had the Chevy and there was a nationwide lawsuit and I remember my dad didn't really care about it so he never joined the lawsuit. It was basically just a floating barge of a car.

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5 minutes ago, PittsburghTiger said:

Oh, it is inside. It hasn't seen rain in over 30 years. It is babied more than the '98 911.

Had both of the cars out yesterday. It's amazing how so many people react to the Riviera. At three stop lights people in the next lane yelled over at me wanting to talk about the car. 

 

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Olive Gold Metallic. It looks better on the car.

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18 minutes ago, PittsburghTiger said:

Oh, it is inside. It hasn't seen rain in over 30 years. It is babied more than the '98 911.

Had both of the cars out yesterday. It's amazing how so many people react to the Riviera. At three stop lights people in the next lane yelled over at me wanting to talk about the car. 

Unless you're just a completely damaged misanthrope, it's impossible to be in a bad mood after driving a classic a few miles. The enjoyment it brings to random people is infectious. 

Not that I don't also enjoy talking to the kinds of people who want to bench race and tell stories of the glory days to strangers in a parking lot, etc., but I especially relish the interactions with obviously non-car people who nevertheless want to strike up a conversation, tell me about who/what/when my car reminds them of, etc.

My Skylark convertible was my mom's summer car for 20+ years (and the "weekend family outing" car for the summers of my childhood) and now both of my parents are gone, so there's always a sentimental undercurrent for me any time I'm driving it, so that may well color my perspective in this regard... 

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30 minutes ago, PittsburghTiger said:

We had a 1977 Olds Delta 88. It was an interesting car. It was supposed to have the Olds V-8 but, it had the Chevy and there was a nationwide lawsuit and I remember my dad didn't really care about it so he never joined the lawsuit. It was basically just a floating barge of a car.

Back in the day I called those huge full size sedans “chrome barges”.

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27 minutes ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

Unless you're just a completely damaged misanthrope, it's impossible to be in a bad mood after driving a classic a few miles. The enjoyment it brings to random people is infectious. 

If you drive a classic more than a few miles, it's impossible not to be in a bad mood periodically.  As simple as my '69 Chevy C10 is, there is always one more thing to fix.  

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4 minutes ago, Jerry Callo said:

If you drive a classic more than a few miles, it's impossible not to be in a bad mood periodically.  As simple as my '69 Chevy C10 is, there is always one more thing to fix.  

This is a fair point, and one that I did not contemplate in my post. 

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My grandfather, the one who gave me the 1968 Riviera, was terrible at maintaining cars. Grandpa graduated from medical school in 1923, so even during The Great Depression he had money, or at least was paid in eggs, and meats and things. I even have a pool table from an old Pittsburgh pool hall because the owner needed to pay grandpa for a surgery. 
Anyway, the Riviera was bought new and for some damned reason, at some point in the late ‘70s, the Great Earl Scheib painted a good portion of the car. Now, I think there was no attempt at matching what was a beautiful color, Olive Gold Metallic, which was only on the Riviera in ‘68, no other General Motors car.
Well, it was an absolutely horrible paint job and just looked like shit. 
I got the car in high school, and like an ass I had the car painted black (ugh) and had the original vinyl top taken off. The original was lime green, very sharp with the Olive Gold. Thankfully, after I graduated from college, a few years after I had it all stripped and taken back to the original Olive Gold and found a sharp vinyl top, sort of a grey/slate color.
I have no idea how Earl Scheib ever grew past one location. It was awful.


This '68 Chevy C-10 in the 50th anniversary of Chevrolet trucks anniversary gold and ivory is one of my favorites.
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1 hour ago, Jerry Callo said:

 


This '68 Chevy C-10 in the 50th anniversary of Chevrolet trucks anniversary gold and ivory is one of my favorites.
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That's 👆 sharp. Very sharp.

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This is the car parked at the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix. I always had a parking pass for up the hill from the Start/Finish and it was neat how so many drivers would take a look at her. I always parked opposite of the driver's paddock.

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3 hours ago, Jerry Callo said:

If you drive a classic more than a few miles, it's impossible not to be in a bad mood periodically.  As simple as my '69 Chevy C10 is, there is always one more thing to fix.  

 

3 hours ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

This is a fair point, and one that I did not contemplate in my post. 

At times I get very nervous driving the Riviera. I am constantly looking at the gauges, looking out the mirrors, etc. and I drive as defensively as possible.

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33 minutes ago, PittsburghTiger said:

 

At times I get very nervous driving the Riviera. I am constantly looking at the gauges, looking out the mirrors, etc. and I drive as defensively as possible.

Not to mention smells.  Start smelling burning rubber or oil and immediately scan other vehicles to see if there is an explanation that doesn't involve your vehicle.   I've pulled over and popped the hood for a check on more than one occasion. 

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This '68 Chevy C-10 in the 50th anniversary of Chevrolet trucks anniversary gold and ivory is one of my favorites.
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My K-20 is in the shop routinely chasing dumb shit, but at this point I’ve damn near replaced it all… hopefully we’re nearing stability!
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