Classic Car thread

[Prepuce of Doom 21019]

Sorry for the duplication (this is another reason why I hate how we have two car threads...) but if you can offer me any tips or insight on installing lifts (for storage more than maintenance/access) in my garage, I would very much appreciate your contribution to the thread here:

http://www.surlyhorns.com/board/index.php?/topic/3663-lifts-for-storing-extra-cars-in-garages/

[Mother mopar 3310]

Sorry for the duplication (this is another reason why I hate how we have two car threads...) but if you can offer me any tips or insight on installing lifts (for storage more than maintenance/access) in my garage, I would very much appreciate your contribution to the thread here:
http://www.surlyhorns.com/board/index.php?/topic/3663-lifts-for-storing-extra-cars-in-garages/

Not alot of advice but if I'm installing lifts, I would double check to ensure your concrete slab is thick enough to support the pillars and bolts.

[Prepuce of Doom 21019]

Thanks - I'll add it to the checklist! 

Much appreciated! 

[Jkwellborn 6670]

Pay someone to do it.

[Mother mopar 3310]

Nice little surprise in the mail today when I got home. I sent out my heater box (non a/c) out for restoration to a gentleman in Pennsylvania a while back and here it is restored. Better than I thought it would, pretty happy.

 

 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

Looks like he did a great job, too bad it'll be tucked cup under the dash where it can't be seen. 

I'm dealing with a heater box right now !!  It's in the way of my attempts to add some decent audio that can be heard over the road noise with the top down..  trying to add a couple 8" sub woofers. one on each side of the center console.  The heater box would be so much nicer if it was about 1" thinner towards the firewall.....

[tbone_ 14039]

I had to put a shut off valve in the water hose to mine. Last thing I need driving that damn car in AZ in the summer is a damn hot heater core.

 

[Prepuce of Doom 21019]

 

 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

 

A little engine porn this morning.   1965 (early build) Ford Mustang, 289 A code, four barrel, with a Fluidyne 4 core alum. radiator, Scorpion roller rockers, balanced and blueprinted re build, Shelby Hi -Po Exhaust manifolds into dual exhaust (much better than headers, that fail too much to deal with), Pertronix electronic ignition, Borgesson power steering pump.

Never displayed my car before, but there's a rag top show coming up (just for show not a competition).  It was a good excuse to clean up the engine bay, and swap out a couple items. Installed new stainless steel hood springs this morning on freshly painted hood hinges to replace the original rusted steel springs. This was never going to be a concourse care so I'm resto modding and replacing some under the hood pieces with chromed or stainless steel components.

A modern 130 amp alternator, Braided stainless steel radiator hoses, and maybe stainless steel export braces and a Monte Carlo bar will be next.  Don't want too much bright steel, but just enough to make the bay pop a bit.  Still on the fence about the bright export braces.

 

Edited August 4, 2018 by Onboard 2.0

[tbone_ 14039]

That looks nice. How does it run?

[Chad Fuck 17590]

Nice pics. That looks great Onboard.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

5 hours ago, tbone_ said:

That looks nice. How does it run?

I built it for a very dependable daily driver, not for flat out speed or off the line quickness.  I installed a 1983 mustang 5 speed a year ago (Modern Driveline supplied it and the hydraulic clutch arrangement), replacing the 4 speed top loader and the original spring loaded clutch (it was not much fun to shift gears). It lets me have more fun with gears now.  

It's got pep, fun to drive, sounds good, but it's definitely not a muscle car. It's a quintessential pony car look with a more modern drivetrain, and related components.

 

[tbone_ 14039]

That’s cool.

[Anastasis 23404]

45m left.  Devil get behind me.

 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-international-harvester-scout-80-3/

 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

12 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

45m left.  Devil get behind me.

 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-international-harvester-scout-80-3/

 

Damn I'm sexually aroused........

[PRONG HORN 3114]

2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

45m left.  Devil get behind me.

 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-international-harvester-scout-80-3/

 

 

 

Well?

[Shoxthemonkey 1976]

Wow! That has to be the coolest, cleanest 80 I've ever seen. Did you get it?

[Anastasis 23404]

I didn't make a bid on it. But watched it all the way to the end.  I did register my card in case it looked like it would close at a number I was willing to pull trigger on.  It ended up at 27k, which seems rich to me for a scout.  I am really looking for a nice clean sub $25k 67/68 Mustang. 

[Gil Bang 25903]

I own a ‘62 Scout. Same motor and trans. Mine is clean and all original.

Holy shit. I had no idea.

[Anastasis 23404]

12 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

I own a ‘62 Scout. Same motor and trans. Mine is clean and all original.

Holy shit. I had no idea.

thanks for the pics asshole. 

[Gil Bang 25903]

And I had a 67 mustang. I’d rather have the scout.

[Gil Bang 25903]

thanks for the pics asshole. 

It’s garages at my desert house. It’s 115 down there so I won’t be going anytime soon to snap photos.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

I didn't make a bid on it. But watched it all the way to the end.  I did register my card in case it looked like it would close at a number I was willing to pull trigger on.  It ended up at 27k, which seems rich to me for a scout.  I am really looking for a nice clean sub $25k 67/68 Mustang. 

Hardtop ? Convertible or fastback ? 

[Anastasis 23404]

12 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Hardtop ? Convertible or fastback ? 

My two previous were coupes, so I have a place in my heart for those, but I ain't turning away a good look at a convertible or a fastback. 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

45 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

My two previous were coupes, so I have a place in my heart for those, but I ain't turning away a good look at a convertible or a fastback. 

Already have a convertible so a fastback is on my wish list.

 

66, silver with a bright red interior 

[Bo 139]

That’s one of my favorite colors on Jeep wranglers, looks great on the scout. Curious how it would look on an old k5 blazer, may have to find out soon

[tbone_ 14039]

It’s garages at my desert house. It’s 115 down there so I won’t be going anytime soon to snap photos.

Don’t be a pussy.

[Anastasis 23404]

 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-chevrolet-c20-2/

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

46 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-chevrolet-c20-2/

Me Likey.  Even if it's a Chevy.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

Saw this last Saturday at a local car show.  I love a frame off car restoration, but I dig the rat rod type cars.

I especially like seeing survivors.  Cars that have eluded restoration and are still in original condition. Dude had a 68 SS Camaro. His mom bought it new and it still looked showroom floor new for the most part.

 

This was sitting next to it, same owner.

 

[Jkwellborn 6670]

That’s a nice truck. I had a 57 Chevy stepside with a wrap around back glass in high school.

I’m not a fan of vehicles being on the ground, even when it’s air bags just sitting. I can’t stand the “patina” fad going on either.

I like the stance and stuff on a lot of old vehicles.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

50 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

That’s a nice truck. I had a 57 Chevy stepside with a wrap around back glass in high school.

I’m not a fan of vehicles being on the ground, even when it’s air bags just sitting. I can’t stand the “patina” fad going on either.

I like the stance and stuff on a lot of old vehicles.

It's something you like or don't like, not a lot of middle ground I find. Growing up with some of the hot rodders back in the day who did some of this I think it's fun, and has it's place. 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

The summer of billet and stainless steel. Continuing on the road to a slight rest modding of the mustangs interior and engine bay.   Small touches of stainless and or billet to pop against the black engine bay. 

 

Today boys and girls:  A new stainless steel hood catch and pin to replace the rusted original mechanism.   New gas shocks with billet steel shock tower caps and related stainless steel fasteners.

 

 

 

 

[tbone_ 14039]

It's something you like or don't like, not a lot of middle ground I find.

I must be weird because I can appreciate any hot rod style, even if it’s not my thing.

If somebody took the time/energy/effort to build anything they dig, I can dig it too, even if it’s not how I would have done it.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

14 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

 

I must be weird because I can appreciate any hot rod style, even if it’s not my thing.

If somebody took the time/energy/effort to build anything they dig, I can dig it too, even if it’s not how I would have done it.

 

That's my take as well. I talk to the guys with the meticulously rebuilt 50's cars Cadillacs, Bel Airs, etc. They usually echo your post. "They ain't pretty, but they look fun as hell to build", and they often say it's one of their favorite things they've seen at the show that day.

[PRONG HORN 3114]

 

 

 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

Sweet little car.  Thanks for the history lesson.

[tbone_ 14039]

That's my take as well. I talk to the guys with the meticulously rebuilt 50's cars Cadillacs, Bel Airs, etc. They usually echo your post. "They ain't pretty, but they look fun as hell to build", and they often say it's one of their favorite things they've seen at the show that day.

Oh yea. But I truly mean anything...from tbuckets to ricers and everything in between.

If it’s cool to anyone it’s cool to me too. Cars are much more fun that way I think.

[Mother mopar 3310]

Now that the fuel system is done, brakes were next. Installed all new brake lines, portioning value and metering block. Just waiting on rear rubber brake line and some hardware and I'll be done w/that. Have a new master cylinder and brake booster as well but that's for another day, along w/rear wheel cylinders

Installed the restored heater box along w/ correct coded heater hoses. Engine bay starting to shape up. Still need a hemi water pump pulley. Those are hard to find but the search continues.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

The struggle is real.....

[Mother mopar 3310]

The struggle is real.....

No doubt, hoping next wknd's Mopar southern national car show & swap meet brings me some good luck searching for parts.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

20 minutes ago, Mother mopar said:

24 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

The struggle is real.....

No doubt, hoping next wknd's Mopar southern national car show & swap meet brings me some good luck searching for parts.

Are you trying to replace with NOS or a refurbished original part ?  Trying to stay away from reproduction parts ?  Do they offer that as a reproduction part,  that's one of the nice things about Mustangs, they make just about every part as a reproduction.

I re built a 66 Crysler 300  That was a struggle for damn sure. There is no after market for those cars. I actually bought a 65 Imperial/New Yorker as a parts car.

Edited August 11, 2018 by Onboard 2.0

[Mother mopar 3310]

Are you trying to replace with NOS or a refurbished original part ?  Trying to stay away from reproduction parts ?  Do they offer that as a reproduction part,  that's one of the nice things about Mustangs, they make just about every part as a reproduction.
I re built a 66 Crysler 300  That was a struggle for damn sure. There is no after market for those cars. I actually bought a 65 Imperial/New Yorker as a parts car.

I'm going NOS if I can afford it, if not then originals which can be restored. Reproductions just aren't the same quality and fit that the originals are. There is a small community of folks who restore Mopar parts specifically so if you can find originals there are folks who can fix em up. Plus cars with orginal parts bring more money.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

Side view of the Mock up revisions to the original useless center console.  New Audio Frog  6 3/4" 2 ways on each side of the under dash portion of the console (2 more in the driver and passenger side kick panels.  

Cladding the entire console with a faux buffalo grain vinyl with red contrast stitching (hopefully).  Looking at adding the stainless steel cap heads bolts as a bit of a contrast  detail along the sides of the console once it's clad in the vinyl.  I want it to read a bit resto mod, not trying to look like original equipment.

Phase two would be a raised arm rest/ storage compartment  towards the rear if I can get happy with the proportions.

Also found a set of stainless steel flip out cup holders. They conceal in the sides of the console when not in use. Never like the look of the typical drink hole in the console look.

 

 

[Chad Fuck 17590]

Side view of the Mock up revisions to the original useless center console.  New Audio Frog  6 3/4" 2 ways on each side of the under dash portion of the console (2 more in the driver and passenger side kick panels.  
Cladding the entire console with a faux buffalo grain vinyl with red contrast stitching (hopefully).  Looking at adding the stainless steel cap heads bolts as a bit of a contrast  detail along the sides of the console once it's clad in the vinyl.  I want it to read a bit resto mod, not trying to look like original equipment.
Phase two would be a raised arm rest/ storage compartment  towards the rear if I can get happy with the proportions.
Also found a set of stainless steel flip out cup holders. They conceal in the sides of the console when not in use. Never like the look of the typical drink hole in the console look.
 

 

I like this. Keep the pics coming as I may have to do the same.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

1 hour ago, Chad Fuck said:

I like this. Keep the pics coming as I may have to do the same.

Thanks, I'm using the original console as the base, kinda sacrilege to some, but it already had a pretty severe crack on one side, and it makes it much easier to build on the original piece with all the attachment points lined up perfectly.

[Chad Fuck 17590]

When I redid my Mustang the first time, back around 1990, I kept it totally stock.  I drove it for 200k miles.  Now, I'm all about the restomod.  Some dude somewhere paid seven figures to have the most authentic 65 he can have and it's in some museum. I'm going to drive mine.  So it's going to have the shit in it that I want in it (like an a/c and a radio that aren't shit), and try and keep the vintage look as much as possible.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

24 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

When I redid my Mustang the first time, back around 1990, I kept it totally stock.  I drove it for 200k miles.  Now, I'm all about the restomod.  Some dude somewhere paid seven figures to have the most authentic 65 he can have and it's in some museum. I'm going to drive mine.  So it's going to have the shit in it that I want in it (like an a/c and a radio that aren't shit), and try and keep the vintage look as much as possible.

This right here. I don't have a matching numbers GT or Shelby, that would be a different story. I want to drive it, and have fun.  

There are chips, and a rust spot on the drivers door, but it still looks clean, and I don't sweat those little road injuries. What I do sweat is leaky fluids, an uncomfortable ride, bad electronics, a decent sound system, and a car that doesn't start when I turn the key.

I haven't even dreamed of AC, but it would be nice.  That would be a big job because I'd want it all in the dash, not one of the original or aftermarket under dash units replacing the upper console.  Never liked the way they looked anyway. I want an integrated look like the 67's and beyond.

[Chad Fuck 17590]

I had the original under dash unit.  It's was a pinnacle of mid-century design.  Looked awesome.  Felt like a 70 year-old blowing their hot breath on you on a good day.

 

[tbone_ 14039]

I totally agree with you guys. On my Firebird, there is pretty much nothing original about it, but it does have the correct 400 motor (although it’s a 67, not a 68).

But beyond that I have a 5 speed (hello 2k rpms at 70mph!), a ride tech suspension kit that rides fantastic but keeps the original general design intent, ie no 4 link, or coil over, etc., completely rebuilt brake system with 100% brand new brake parts, upgraded radiator/cooling system (OE system not made for AZ summers).

The sheet metal isn’t perfect but this car is as good a driver as you will find. Everything you can’t see is perfect.