Is it possible to print your own money

[David Busters 22]

If I were to make my own money, say out of real metals like silver and gold, could I use these like real money. Do I need to put something on it that cites the law that says this is legal, in order to use it? Or wooluld it be the barter system. 

If it is not legal what if I get a contract to sign for the other person I am doing barter with, that says they acknowledge there is no exchange of money taking place. 

 

Also it will not look like real money.

[Grade of D as in David 13,253]

 

 

 

 

[David Busters 22]

What I read is that there has not been real US money printed since 1971 so I am trying to think of ways to keep value. 

[Rimbo 25,911]

9 minutes ago, David Busters said:

If I were to make my own money, say out of real metals like silver and gold, could I use these like real money. Do I need to put something on it that cites the law that says this is legal, in order to use it? Or wooluld it be the barter system. 

If it is not legal what if I get a contract to sign for the other person I am doing barter with, that says they acknowledge there is no exchange of money taking place. 

 

Also it will not look like real money.

No.

Edited March 20, 2023 by Rimbo

[Rimbo 25,911]

2 minutes ago, David Busters said:

What I read is that there has not been real US money printed since 1971 so I am trying to think of ways to keep value. 

What you read is so painfully wrong and idiotic that I feel stupider just for having read it.

[YGIFS 19,449]

4 minutes ago, David Busters said:

What I read is that there has not been real US money printed since 1971 so I am trying to think of ways to keep value. 

I'm dying to know where you "read" that?  You can print your own fiat currency at home with the current President of the United States, John F. Kennedy Jr. in the center in the denominations of your choosing.  Be sure to add lots of mysterious cabal clues on the back side.  

 

First thing you'll to do though is replace the yellow toner cartridge in your Epson and restart the printer.  

[AUS-97HORN 11,756]

OP:

[David Busters 22]

1 minute ago, Rimbo said:

What you read is so painfully wrong and idiotic that I feel stupider just for having read it.

Oh I am sorry. Not trying to upset anyone that’s just something I read. I wasn’t sure. But if both people agree on the value it is bartering. So that would be an exception.

[SydneyCarton 48,054]

2 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

What you read is so painfully wrong and idiotic that I feel stupider just for having read it.

The question you should be asking yourself is which dipshit troll that's been repeatedly banned on this site we are witnessing in the present incarnation. All the hallmarks are there for all to see. 

[David Busters 22]

6 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

No.

why not

[Brisketexan 105,058]

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

All the hallmarks are there for all to see. 

Well...I mean....they ARE....but you have to fold the dollar bill in a certain way, with they eye and the pyramid and whatnot, to see them.  DO THE RESEARCH.

[David Busters 22]

3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

The question you should be asking yourself is which dipshit troll that's been repeatedly banned on this site we are witnessing in the present incarnation. All the hallmarks are there for all to see. 

I’m sorry

[DigglerontheHoof 21,176]

15 minutes ago, David Busters said:

If I were to make my own money, say out of real metals like silver and gold, could I use these like real money. Do I need to put something on it that cites the law that says this is legal, in order to use it? Or wooluld it be the barter system. 

If it is not legal what if I get a contract to sign for the other person I am doing barter with, that says they acknowledge there is no exchange of money taking place. 

 

Also it will not look like real money.

Sounds like a solid, well-thought-out plan.  

[SydneyCarton 48,054]

Dont feed the troll guys. Unless you truly believe this a person who announces themselves on a website by admitting to going to prison for child pornography.

 

More likely, and only slightly less disturbing, is this is a dumb troll who thinks child pornography is funny. 

[BabaYaga 15,286]

Good speed for your poop hole...

18 U.S. Code § 471 is a federal statute that states that a person can be fined and/or imprisoned for up to 20 years if they counterfeit a security of the United States with intent to defraud

[David Busters 22]

I an required to post that on any site. My sentence was commuted, so please keep your attitude to yourself. I am asking questions to learn. I am sorry for offending you

[Brisketexan 105,058]

1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:

Good speed for your poop hole...

18 U.S. Code § 471 is a federal statute that states that a person can be fined and/or imprisoned for up to 20 years if they counterfeit a security of the United States with intent to defraud

Haha, LOOPHOLE, dumbass - Stanley Nickels are not securities of the United States!

[Trey3216 15,343]

We need to stop making threads or talking about ChatGPT, so it stops making bot accounts trying to interact with us mortals.  

[David Busters 22]

1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:

Good speed for your poop hole...

18 U.S. Code § 471 is a federal statute that states that a person can be fined and/or imprisoned for up to 20 years if they counterfeit a security of the United States with intent to defraud

Yes but it’s not going to look like money, nobody would mistake it for that. So it is not counterfeit. And if there is a contract I can pay a person whatever he will accept as payment. 1099

Can I pay for a Coke with Euros, yes if you accept

[David Busters 22]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Haha, LOOPHOLE, dumbass - Stanley Nickels are not securities of the United States!

Yes but if you agreed to accept these nickels in exchange for a service knowingly then it is legal is it not, maybe they are collectible. Maybe they are made from precious metals.

Maybe they have diamonds!

[YGIFS 19,449]

What service are you providing where your customers pay in nickels?  What kinda low-rent dick-sucking you do?  

[BabaYaga 15,286]

Was in the Dallas Fed down near the shredders - that place was out of an Oceans11 vault.  Cameras EVERYWHERE.  Your shift-mates change at random intervals and if anything goes down, everyone in the shift has poop-hole concerns for a few decades.  The shredders are the size of tour buses and all the walls are clear plexiglass.  All the vault lock-boxes hold 300,000 bills of various denominations, so a box of new hundreds is worth a nice NBA-sized contract.  

[Beau Vine 54,206]

Chad?

[BabaYaga 15,286]

4 minutes ago, David Busters said:

Yes but it’s not going to look like money, nobody would mistake it for that. So it is not counterfeit. And if there is a contract I can pay a person whatever he will accept as payment. 1099

Can I pay for a Coke with Euros, yes if you accept

That's fine, but who will accept them?  You're just back to the barter system.  Precious metals - sure, but some fiat, funny-money, you just started a club.  

[BabaYaga 15,286]

6 minutes ago, David Busters said:

yes if you accept

[BabaYaga 15,286]

4 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

What service are you providing where your customers pay in nickels?  What kinda low-rent dick-sucking you do?  

[David Busters 22]

1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:

That's fine, but who will accept them?  You're just back to the barter system.  Precious metals - sure, but some fiat, funny-money, you just started a club.  

Well you could do like the government used to do and make certificates or something that connects to a piece of gold or a diamond or something else valuable that is held somewhere for safe keeping. And then you could say, I will trade you, without having to carry around a bunch of stuff.

[Rimbo 25,911]

16 minutes ago, David Busters said:

why not

Because you need a basic education in the nature of money, the law, and a fundamental understanding of human nature.

And I'm talking about grade-school level shit you're missing.

[Shaggy3.0 1,695]

Sure.  Print your own money.  Let us know how it goes.

 

[David Busters 22]

There are lots of people who would use it from what i’m seeing tbh 

[YGIFS 19,449]

so you think the problem with crypto currencies wasn't the underlying value or business model, but that they didn't remember to print them out for us to physically hold?  

[David Busters 22]

Just now, Shaggy3.0 said:

Sure.  Print your own money.  Let us know how it goes.

 

Thanks but I want to know is it legal

[Shaggy3.0 1,695]

Just now, David Busters said:

Thanks but I want to know is it legal

Give it a try.  Then you'll know.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,669]

yes, counterfeiting money is very legal.  please do it.

[David Busters 22]

Just now, YGIFS said:

so you think the problem with crypto currencies wasn't the underlying value or business model, but that they didn't remember to print them out for us to physically hold?  

no they are not tied to something with value. Why would I want that. A number.

[BabaYaga 15,286]

Just now, David Busters said:

Thanks but I want to know is it legal

[David Busters 22]

Just now, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

yes, counterfeiting money is very legal.  please do it.

No it isn’t counterfeiting though, it doesn’t say it is Federal money. Why is that counterfeiting

[Sawbonz 27,534]

I figured these would be good enough for you OP

 

[David Busters 22]

8 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

That's fine, but who will accept them?  You're just back to the barter system.  Precious metals - sure, but some fiat, funny-money, you just started a club.  

lots of people accept Euros, half the world does. But it is not counterfeit.

[BabaYaga 15,286]

Just now, David Busters said:

lots of people accept Euros, half the world does. But it is not counterfeit.

Euro2.0

Do it!

1 minute ago, David Busters said:

No it isn’t counterfeiting though, it doesn’t say it is Federal money. Why is that counterfeiting

Again, a barter system.  Hardly revolutionary.  

[Incredulity 11,650]

16 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Haha, LOOPHOLE, dumbass - Stanley Nickels are not securities of the United States!

obligatory

[David Busters 22]

What if I own a bank. Isn’t it just the same as a check, if you accept it? 

[Rimbo 25,911]

1 minute ago, David Busters said:

no they are not tied to something with value. Why would I want that. A number.

Whole point of money is that it's a representation of arbitrary value. Whether it's made of metal or paper or 800-pound stone wheels, it's a stand-in for value.

Again, elementary school stuff.

Metal is just a commodity whose value changes.

And yes, governments can, do, and have made laws restricting what must be accepted.

You can make your own money, but you can't make anyone else use it.

Why would I accept your phony "currency" if I can't then go buy anything with it elsewhere? There's literally no reason. USD or fuck off.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,669]

34 minutes ago, David Busters said:

there has not been real US money printed since 1971

if anyone was wondering what this is about: nixon ends gold standard 1971.

 

https://www.federalreservehistory.org/essays/gold-convertibility-ends

[Rimbo 25,911]

3 minutes ago, David Busters said:

lots of people accept Euros, half the world does. But it is not counterfeit.

Yes, because their governments have ruled it's currency.

Anyway. I'm not telling you anything you couldn't find out on your own if you had even two brain cells rubbing themselves together.

Gonna take SC's advice and drop you into the ignore hole now. Bye!

[Rimbo 25,911]

2 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

if anyone was wondering what this is about: nixon ends gold standard 1971.

 

https://www.federalreservehistory.org/essays/gold-convertibility-ends

I mean technically you CAN still convert USD to gold. But now it's at market rates. Gold is a commodity, like anything else.

[David Busters 22]

2 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

Whole point of money is that it's a representation of arbitrary value. Whether it's made of metal or paper or 800-pound stone wheels, it's a stand-in for value.

Again, elementary school stuff.

Metal is just a commodity whose value changes.

And yes, governments can, do, and have made laws restricting what must be accepted.

You can make your own money, but you can't make anyone else use it.

Why would I accept your phony "currency" if I can't then go buy anything with it elsewhere? There's literally no reason. USD or fuck off.

What if you own a store, like a Cosco. And the only way you can pay is with the chits I am talking about. They used to have Green Stamps. Like that. If people accept them. 

[David Busters 22]

Yes but my dollars are not worth anything in gold. I have to go buy it and pay a bank to buy it. Who profits in the arbitrage Before 1972 I already owned the gold. 

2 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

I mean technically you CAN still convert USD to gold. But now it's at market rates. Gold is a commodity, like anything else.

 

Edited March 20, 2023 by David Busters

[crash_davis 23,098]

This is the day that Surly died. This fuckstick is going to invite all of his kin on here.

[YGIFS 19,449]

This is starting to sound like that elaborate coupon scheme my daughter uses at my birthday where I can trade a slip of hand-drawn paper into her for a quiet dinner with Mommy or she'll fold the laundry or help rake leaves.  

David Buster-you realize what you keep describing is just a business contract which exist but don't technically transfer money...they just set the terms by which money will be later transferred.  I perform X and upon Y, you me $Z.