Texas vs Miami- Elite 8- 4:05pm on CBS

[Guitarman 28]

That second half collapse...damn. that was epic and not in a good way.

[Surly Bevo 25,159]

Offense got very tentative.  Rice was gimpy (how many attempts did he even have in the second half). Marcus got hurt (don't feel like he shot or moved much after he came back in).  We tried to run it through Timmy and it didn't work.

Edited March 27, 2023 by Surly Bevo

[Vic Mackey 47,157]

Just out of curiosity, what, exactly, is the agenda?

No clue. But there was one in favor of Miami.

[UTEE97 3,522]

43 minutes ago, staboner said:

i still can't get over what the rule is here that made this the right call? the announcers also agreed. its not brocks fault the other left his feet...its over the back or nothing on loose ball.

we certainly were not great down the stretch and kudos to them for making all their foul shots, but the refs controlled the entirety of the second half.  our defense was fucking good, and was winning the game, but then we got penalized for it and that killed our MO. on top of that the travels, over the backs, and no charges on them on that side of the court was BS. 

Brock kept backing up while the Miami player jumped up to get the ball. Brock does a lot of stupid shit like this to get called for fouls. I think it's the correct call, but I didn't expect them to overturn a foul call upon review. It was a meltdown but the refs definitely contributed to it.

Edited March 27, 2023 by UTEE97

[Mo Horn 8,855]

Just got back home from the game. Shitty way to go out, but it was a cool experience being there for both games. Yes, we got jobbed by calls, but we also turned the ball over several times down the stretch, and went cold from the field. Love the team and look forward to the future. 

Edited March 27, 2023 by Mo Horn

[BurntOrange&White 40,029]

2 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Just out of curiosity, what, exactly, is the agenda?

No clue. But there was one in favor of Miami.

2/3 of the officials tonight were big 12, allegedly?

[Cairn Horn88 8,283]

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

Worst thing about all this is I have to root for a Hurley

No, no you don’t.

[Hammerin Hank 1,227]

6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

You haven’t read the rule book.

Ok. You’re a ref so I respect your opinion. But I’ve seen a ton of bad foul calls in my life. I’ve heard plenty of announcers say the refs got it wrong. I’ve never seen a foul call reversed. How does that happen in such a crucial moment?

[DanTheHorn 4,966]

4 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Dude I coach Texas high school basketball for 10 years. I’ve overly stated why I thought the refs would call it. Pancho who’s a ref agreed. You’ve stated nothing except “yea look at the pic”. You’re out of your element with me in basketball, rules and execution of basketball. I asked pancho to clarify why a ref would call it. I felt I saw the same thing. Big deal. Fucking mob surly is always the best. Yell and blame the refs like classic surly not our terrible defense  or missed shots and hero ball. That was a huge contributor.

Yep we were at fault but the want to blame the man.

[hobbes2702 13,074]

Are we still doing this thing where people say “big 12 officials”?

[BurntOrange&White 40,029]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

Are we still doing this thing where people say “big 12 officials”?

Yeah cause fuck em and fuck this conference

[dcar00 14,372]

there aren't big 12 refs but there are refs that do certain conferences more than others.

we hadn't been "fouling" like that all tournament.   It would be fine if they were calling the same shit(travels, pushes, charges, reaches) on Miami but they weren't.  Completely blind to anything Miami was doing, which of course made it hard for our already injury challenged O.

[Willfully Horn 8,049]

Sucks to feel the refs tipped the scales.

Wish Carr had fed Cunningham at the minute mark.

 

Great season. Lots of fun to watch this team.

 

🤘

[DaggerHorns 3,093]

3 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

Just got back home from the game. Shitty way to go out, but it was a cool experience being there for both games. Yes, we got jobbed by calls, but we also turned the back over several times down the stretch, and went cold from the field. Love the team and look forward to the future. 

Can you read the whole thread so you can catch up on arguing and bitching with us?

[hobbes2702 13,074]

1 minute ago, Hammerin Hank said:

Ok. You’re a ref so I respect your opinion. But I’ve seen a ton of bad foul calls in my life. I’ve heard plenty of announcers say the refs got it wrong. I’ve never seen a foul call reversed. How does that happen in such a crucial moment?

Imo the reversal is the thing to take issue with. It’s way too 50/50 for the call to get reversed from what was called on floor. 
Again I think it was the wrong call, but I’m not surprised to see it called.

[Ignatius 4,029]

8 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

2. When’s the last time you saw a call get overturned?

One ref called a foul on Miami, one ref called it on Texas. They got together and went with one of the calls; that happens all the time…

[hobbes2702 13,074]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Yeah cause fuck em and fuck this conference

Fuck who? Big 12 refs? Those don’t exist 

[BurntOrange&White 40,029]

Just now, hobbes2702 said:

Fuck who? Big 12 refs? Those don’t exist 

EVERYBODY! FUCK EVERYBODY!

[dcar00 14,372]

Just now, Ignatius said:

One ref called a foul on Miami, one ref called it on Texas. They got together and went with one of the calls; that happens all the time…

were you there?  they didn't show that on TV at all.

[Ignatius 4,029]

Just now, dcar00 said:

were you there?  they didn't show that on TV at all.

That’s what Craig Way said…

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1,549]

watch Ole Miss win it all in 3 years. 

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32 minutes ago, Focht Up said:

Most of miami's offense consisted of driving to the bucket, lowering the shoulder, and plowing into the texas defensive player.   Never was it ever called an offensive foul.  It should have been called against Miami every time, but it was called a foul on texas instead

 

This exact situation happened right after Carr’s injury...Miami dude drove straight into Brock’s chest and Brock got called for a foul...2 free throws for Miami 

[MirrOlure 14,846]

Lmao. Pancho is a ref and pretty much said yea it was a huge mind blowing call. Fans don’t know shit about basketball or rules as they still keep yelling over the back and over the back isn’t even a fucking call. Push in the back is. It was a questionable call which is why refs call stuff when players get their legs cut. It is what it is.

“Over the back” is a description of the foul that occurs when the player tries to jump over or through the player that has position, you stupid cockfuck.

What Brock did is exactly how John Fucking Wooden would teach rebounding position.

And oh, Pancho is a ref so he’s right? Maybe he’s a shitty ass ref

[DanTheHorn 4,966]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

EVERYBODY! FUCK EVERYBODY!

One last thing fuck, mother fucking, fuck!

[Hookem2147 21,355]

I would taken an Elite Eight appearance in a heartbeat before the season, and even more so after the events in December.

Doesn’t mean this still doesn’t suck ass though. This team was special and it’s hard to win in March. Ask the other 64 teams who had to sit and watch this game today.

Time to capitalize on this momentum and keep building. There should never be 15 years between sweet 16 appearances again.

[Pancho 45,006]

3 minutes ago, Hammerin Hank said:

Ok. You’re a ref so I respect your opinion. But I’ve seen a ton of bad foul calls in my life. I’ve heard plenty of announcers say the refs got it wrong. I’ve never seen a foul call reversed. How does that happen in such a crucial moment?

It happens, especially if two refs blow their whistle. One can come to the other ref and explain why their call should be the call. Usually in that situation, the ref also says something like “I’ll take the heat if I’m wrong.”

 

Can also be something like “yes I saw your [insert call here] but I had this call before that.”

[Deej 76,930]

1 minute ago, Ignatius said:

That’s what Craig Way said…

Craig was probably too busy reminiscing about a 1-A football game he covered in West Texas.

[Rockethorn1978 6,102]

2 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

“Over the back” is a description of the foul that occurs when the player tries to jump over or through the player that has position, you stupid cockfuck.

What Brock did is exactly how John Fucking Wooden would teach rebounding position.

And oh, Pancho is a ref so he’s right? Maybe he’s a shitty ass ref

No describes it on the court or from a coach as over the back. Stupid fans that don’t know shit or parents at the ymca rec league games yell “over the backkkkkkkk”. Then refs and coaches laugh at morons like you.

Edited March 27, 2023 by Rockethorn1978

[59 Burst 434]

What sucks is regardless of anything else, we had opportunities. It’s like the basket had a fucking lid on it 

[David Dennison 18,947]

2 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

watch Ole Miss win it all in 3 years. 

Arch Manning will have won a national championship by then, so it's cool.

[Deej 76,930]

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

Can also be something like “yes I saw your [insert call here] but I had this call wrong before that

fify

[Surly Bevo 25,159]

Just now, Pancho said:

It happens, especially if two refs blow their whistle. One can come to the other ref and explain why their call should be the call. Usually in that situation, the ref also says something like “I’ll take the heat if I’m wrong.”

 

Refs don't take heat in the College and Pro Ranks.  Oh they may get graded and all that like everybody else does at their job (that doesn't make them special) but they are the only ones on the court who take no immediate post game heat.  There is too much money in college and professional sports for it to continue to be this opaque.  

[MotownHorn 1,797]

21 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

He's backing up before he jumps

 

What the hell is Brock supposed to do if that's a foul?

He's supposed to look 180 degrees behind himself while boxing out and then stop boxing out if the guy jumps??!?!?!

[Js1 85,582]

2 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

I would taken an Elite Eight appearance in a heartbeat before the season, and even more so after the events in December.

Doesn’t mean this still doesn’t suck ass though. This team was special and it’s hard to win in March. Ask the other 64 teams who had to sit and watch this game today.

Time to capitalize on this momentum and keep building. There should never be 15 years between sweet 16 appearances again.

This 

it just hurts more bc we were 10 min away from a final four. So close 

[LonghornSean 4,024]

Incredibly disappointing with the FF being in Houston and the field remaining.

What a missed opportunity. Offense  totally lost it’s confidence and that compounded with the free throw fest on the other end. 

Edited March 27, 2023 by LonghornSean

[UTexasFight 9,528]

55 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

One of the bigger problems in sports is refs don’t have to face questions.

Questions like, “Why did you reverse that over the back call when one guy has position is backing up for the rebound and has his eyes on the ball? How is he responsible for knowing a guy is going to come flying in from behind him?”

Who made that call so I can add his name next to Teddy Valentine?

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We got fucked:

 

 

 

[Pancho 45,006]

5 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

“Over the back” is a description of the foul that occurs when the player tries to jump over or through the player that has position, you stupid cockfuck.
 

Lol no it’s not.

[CurlyDumps 4,484]

10 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Are we still doing this thing where people say “big 12 officials”?

Rig 12, but yes 

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[Pancho 45,006]

4 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Refs don't take heat in the College and Pro Ranks.  Oh they may get graded and all that like everybody else does at their job (that doesn't make them special) but they are the only ones on the court who take no immediate post game heat.  There is too much money in college and professional sports for it to continue to be this opaque.  

Well they do but not in a way that fans would notice. 

[hobbes2702 13,074]

7 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

“Over the back” is a description of the foul that occurs when the player tries to jump over or through the player that has position, you stupid cockfuck.

What Brock did is exactly how John Fucking Wooden would teach rebounding position.

And oh, Pancho is a ref so he’s right? Maybe he’s a shitty ass ref

Sorry bud but this ain’t correct

[Hammerin Hank 1,227]

6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

It happens, especially if two refs blow their whistle. One can come to the other ref and explain why their call should be the call. Usually in that situation, the ref also says something like “I’ll take the heat if I’m wrong.”

 

Can also be something like “yes I saw your [insert call here] but I had this call before that.”

I didn’t know 2 refs made different calls. They didn’t say that on the tv broadcast 

[BurntOrange&White 40,029]

I'm with @immamac fuck Sarklostagain!

 

[Braff Zacklin 13,664]

Not that this argument needs any more fuel, but even Omier thought he had fouled out on the play. Just sayin'.

[MirrOlure 14,846]

No describes it on the court or from a coach as over the back. Stupid fans that don’t know shit or parents at the ymca rec league games yell “over the backkkkkkkk”. Then refs and coaches laugh at morons like you.

Goddammit you obtuse fuck….it’s a literal description of a foul. It’s like yelling “he walked!” Or “he’s hooking!” Or “he slapped his shooting arm!” JFC.

Know what else isn’t a real foul? Charging. And there’s no such thing as an “offensive foul” either. Doesn’t make it wrong to call them that.

Lol no it’s not.

Lol yes it is

[MotownHorn 1,797]

23 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

I’ve stated my stance you stated nothing becaise you don’t know the fucking rules. Refs see a guys legs get cut they almost ALWAYS call the foul on the guy blocking out. Do you even watch basketball? Happens all the time.

I watch a lot of basketball, including just about every Texas game for the last 20 years, and I have have NEVER seen that call before.

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1 minute ago, MirrOlure said:

Goddammit you obtuse fuck….it’s a literal description of a foul. It’s like yelling “he walked!” Or “he’s hooking!” Or “he slapped his shooting arm!” JFC.
Lol yes it is

NOO

[Surly Bevo 25,159]

At the 5:05 mark we went up 75-73

Miami made one more FG attempt to tie it at 75 at 4:44.  They made no more FG attempts (we made 3)

[HenryJames 66,180]

2 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Not that this argument needs any more fuel, but even Omier thought he had fouled out on the play. Just sayin'.

He should’ve fouled out on about a dozen plays.