Texas vs Miami- Elite 8- 4:05pm on CBS

[immamac 42838]

Just now, Hammerin Hank said:

I have never in my life seen a foul call reversed. I don’t watch as much basketball as some, but I watch every Texas game and most of March Madness every year. Does that happen often?

basically never.

[4th&Five 41519]

Siap

[The_Great_Hornsby 3236]

Yeah, the reversal foul on Cunningham was legitimately the turning point int he final sequence. Shouldve never come down to that, but that absolutely cost us the game. 

[gofuckyourself 8208]

Just now, 4th&Five said:

Siap

Harder to get in a rhythm and make shots fall when the refs call that many fouls.

[dcar00 14159]

3 minutes ago, utxmike05 said:

Heater breaker for that team.

I knew it was gona be butt clincher when it seemed like were were burying them...yet there was still 10mins left! 2nd half took forever.  
 

Def disappeared.  Miami seemed like they made everything. Guards went cold.   Refs didn't help. I hate blaming them but they were swinging a lot of emotion and rhythm in miami favor. 

the 2nd half did take forever because the refs started calling every thing we did a foul so that Miami could come back.

[Hank_Hill 18794]

2 minutes ago, VABuckeye said:

FYI.  There is no such thing as “over the back”.  The only foul from behind in that situation is a push.  

Let the commentators of every game know

[troph 24781]

Just now, Js1 said:

Without Disu, we resorted to hero ball jump shot offense. Ball should have been in Rice’s hands, not Carr’s

Offense was great until carr lost his edge with that mid court collision. 

[Chopper 17230]

5 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

It’s not enough you have to be stupid on the Mavs thread, you have to come here, too?

I don't know about the Mavs thread but does a thread exist where he's not stupid as fuck all the time? Yet to see it.

[MirrOlure 14760]

Offense was great until carr lost his edge with that mid court collision. 

Yep. We never recovered offensively after that.

[Surly Bevo 24908]

Yea. There is that as well. Disu was out. Rice supposedly gimpy and then we all saw what happened to Carr.

That wasn’t a recipe for success down the stretch offensively or frankly defensively.

Sucks but that collision was a big turning point.

[Js1 85296]

Just now, troph said:

Offense was great until carr lost his edge with that mid court collision. 

Unfortunately, Terry had to ride his super seniors in the end, banged up or not. Just don’t think it needed to be in Carr’s hands down 2.  

[The_Great_Hornsby 3236]

1 minute ago, troph said:

Offense was great until carr lost his edge with that mid court collision. 

Yeah, this was a huge turning point in the game. Miami will get assblasted by Uconn next. Whatever, fuck them 

[Gut Wagon 8065]

If we'd had a guy go 7-7 from the field and 13-13 from the line, we'd have been calling it one of the game's greatest performances ever. And rightly so. Regardless of how many FTs Miller really earned, that guy was a killer today. Has anyone on that stage ever hit all 20 attempts? Not even Walton. 

[Rockethorn1978 6072]

The blocking out call is tough and @Pancho could fill it in. The way I’ve seen that is the defender jumped before Brock ever started blocking out, he didn’t start blocking out till he jumped. It’s a weird call but they are very very serious about player safety and a guy in the air that gets his legs taken out is almost always an instant foul. But I could be wrong on if Brock had initiated contact before he jumped?

[uoftorange 1386]

5 minutes ago, VABuckeye said:

FYI.  There is no such thing as “over the back”.  The only foul from behind in that situation is a push.  

You are only partly correct.  There is no "over the back" definition in basketball.  But there is absolutely about 50 ways to call a foul there that aren't "a push".

[CycleTex87 2967]

Rice was hobbled and Carr slowed up, and DD out. A lot of our offense gone. 

[VaLonghorn99 341]

We didn't play well in the second half and Miami made the eleventy billion free throws (who needs FGs when the zebras got your back).

[HamsterHookah 112]

9 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

It’s not enough you have to be stupid on the Mavs thread, you have to come here, too?

My comment was on the travel that the refs missed and then called a foul on Allen. You’re not keeping up with the thread.

To be fair, your Mavs posts aren’t exactly good, either.

[Vic Mackey 47012]

I have never in my life seen a foul call reversed. I don’t watch as much basketball as some, but I watch every Texas game and most of March Madness every year. Does that happen often?

Never. That is the most basic shit in the rule book. You are allowed to box out and stand your ground. You absolutely can't come flying over someone's back to grab a rebound like that. What the fuck was the Texas player supposed to do? That's on the opponent if they leave their feet early and come flying over the top. We were tied at the time. That's a foul out on their best big guy. And 2 shots for us. And to top it off, he clearly hits our guys elbow at the other end right after and no foul at all.

I don't give a shit if you want to say "oh that's just aggy to blame the refs". The refs in the 2nd half had a huge impact. This was Purdue last year all over again. This was also 2002 WCF Kings Lakers and 2006 Wade.

[uoftorange 1386]

2 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

But I could be wrong on if Brock had initiated contact before he jumped?

With respect, you're wrong.  He was blocking him out immediately

 

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1549]

4 minutes ago, troph said:

Offense was great until carr lost his edge with that mid court collision. 

and the guy who threw it over the head was really childish to do that. Showed a lack of seriousness and maturity.  I knew right then UT had lost their mental focus. 

[Focht Up 631]

Most of miami's offense consisted of driving to the bucket, lowering the shoulder, and plowing into the texas defensive player.   Never was it ever called an offensive foul.  It should have been called against Miami every time, but it was called a foul on texas instead

 

[dcar00 14159]

can we just have a game where the middle school refs don't just take over, once? first Purdue and now Miami.

[Nueces River Rat 5537]

 

[Vic Mackey 47012]

Offense was great until carr lost his edge with that mid court collision. 

And that was 100% a dirty, malicious play. He went into him with no intention of getting the ball in the air but with every intention of dead legging him. And it worked.

[kevwun 15768]

Carr getting tackled was the turning point.  That combined with Disu being out was just too much to overcome.  I think they should have tried Morris in that 2nd half strectch instead of letting Allen shoot on 4 or 5 straight possessions or whatever it was.

[Rockethorn1978 6072]

1 minute ago, uoftorange said:

With respect, you're wrong.  He was blocking him out immediately

 

It’s possible I’m going off memory instead of finding it to remember the play. 

[SilasCoade 2622]

1 minute ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

and the guy who threw it over the head was really childish to do that. Showed a lack of seriousness and maturity.  I knew right then UT had lost their mental focus. 

What are you talking about? He was trying to save it and give his guys a chance at it.

[Surly Bevo 24908]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

can we just have a game where the middle school refs don't just take over, once? first Purdue and now Miami.

Middle school refs call travling.....a lot.

[dcar00 14159]

Just now, Nueces River Rat said:

 

Purdue take 2.  It's gonna be like the Big 12 penalties chart eventually.

[Ghost of LL 15531]

3 minutes ago, HamsterHookah said:

To be fair, your Mavs posts aren’t exactly good, either.

To be fair, Luka is showing me to be a goddamned prophet.

[shadow_operative 15932]

Brock was boxing out and then the miami guy jumped on top of him. then the refs correctly called that a foul. then they remembered that that was going to be his fifth foul so they changed the call in a move that nobody here has ever seen before in ncaa tournament history. that's what happened. 

[Pato del Muerto 52487]

12 minutes ago, JimmyTwoTimes said:

What if I told you, the day after Beard got canned, that we’d make it to the Elite 8.? Great season, shitty way to end it, move on

If the thing never happened and beard was coaching Texas to this loss, I think most on here would be disappointed in the loss but feel like one win last tournament to 3 wins this tournament was obvious progress, and expecting another step forward next season even with senior departures. 

[The Gimp 346]

11 minutes ago, OU Sucks said:

The Miami dude who went 13 for 13 from the line averaged 3 free throw attempts a game this season.

That’s D. Wade against the Mavs numbers.

[Pancho 44714]

5 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

The blocking out call is tough and @Pancho could fill it in. The way I’ve seen that is the defender jumped before Brock ever started blocking out, he didn’t start blocking out till he jumped. It’s a weird call but they are very very serious about player safety and a guy in the air that gets his legs taken out is almost always an instant foul. But I could be wrong on if Brock had initiated contact before he jumped?

Yes. I was not too angry at that call

[HamsterHookah 112]

Just now, shadow_operative said:

Brock was boxing out and then the miami guy jumped on top of him. then the refs correctly called that a foul. then they remembered that that was going to be his fifth foul so they changed the call in a move that nobody here has ever seen before in ncaa tournament history. that's what happened. 

Yep

[Js1 85296]

1 minute ago, kevwun said:

Carr getting tackled was the turning point.  That combined with Disu being out was just too much to overcome.  I think they should have tried Morris in that 2nd half strectch instead of letting Allen shoot on 4 or 5 straight possessions or whatever it was.

Oh man I wish we had tried Morris but Rodney was not going to bench a super senior in the E8 in crunch time 

[Sock Monkey 722]

2 minutes ago, uoftorange said:

With respect, you're wrong.  He was blocking him out immediately

 

Truth

[shadow_operative 15932]

 

 

 

[Vic Mackey 47012]

We didn't play well in the second half and Miami made the eleventy billion free throws (who needs FGs when the zebras got your back).

We played pretty well until the last half of the half. We got the lead to 13 or so. I was scared the whole time that if we couldn't bury them by getting it up near 20, it could be trouble. Miami never went away. We got sloppy and not to mention the refs killed any pace of play.

[TexArcher 37771]

3 minutes ago, uoftorange said:

You are only partly correct.  There is no "over the back" definition in basketball.  But there is absolutely about 50 ways to call a foul there that aren't "a push".

Right.  It isn't automatically a foul when a taller player is behind a shorter player and reaches over to steal the rebound.

But it god damned sure is a foul when the player in back goes over the shoulders and makes any sort of contact, and it's damned near impossible not to unless you're like 6 inches or more taller.

Anybody trying to argue that it was a foul on Brock for blocking out and not a foul on the guy who went airborn over his back, made contact with his shoulders, arms, and head, and then landed on him, is 100% fucking wrong.

[Rockethorn1978 6072]

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

Yes. I was not too angry at that call

Ok can you explain the call to all the resident non basketball fans. That’s the way I saw it. He started his blockout after he started jumping.

[VABuckeye 2472]

7 minutes ago, uoftorange said:

You are only partly correct.  There is no "over the back" definition in basketball.  But there is absolutely about 50 ways to call a foul there that aren't "a push".

Hold or a push. That’s it unless it’s a hook and hold.  

[Vic Mackey 47012]

Most of miami's offense consisted of driving to the bucket, lowering the shoulder, and plowing into the texas defensive player.   Never was it ever called an offensive foul.  It should have been called against Miami every time, but it was called a foul on texas instead
 

The push off call they made with 2min to go, was done all game long. They traveled a ton too. None of it called from the beginning. Not sure how you are supposed to defend that.

[Pancho 44714]

As I’ve said before, the key is to have a coach who will get in the face of officials to point out discrepancies. Terry isn’t that type of coach. 

[jinx 2635]

4 minutes ago, Focht Up said:

Most of miami's offense consisted of driving to the bucket, lowering the shoulder, and plowing into the texas defensive player.   Never was it ever called an offensive foul.  It should have been called against Miami every time, but it was called a foul on texas instead

 

I loved when they went to the break with the slow mo of the UM player bulldozing through CB for an easy uncontested layup. 

[immamac 42838]

4 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said:

 

but they shot 60% from the field1!!11!11111!!

bunch of fucking idiots

[dcar00 14159]

the dude has his arm on Brocks back the whole time and actually pushes Brock to go up.  It was a ridiculous call but you have to do that when you are corrupt and the fix is in.

27FT's and 28 fouls called in the 2nd half after 9 in the first is the story of the game.

[Surly Bevo 24908]

We were up by 8 at half

9 with 10 to go

They didn't make a FG for a little more than the last 4 minutes of the game

And yet here we are.....

[Nueces River Rat 5537]

The NCAA might end up screwing themselves allowing the Refs to be an influence this whole tourney.   If someone wants to see a Final Four on the cheap, this will be the year as each schools fan base is small.    I hope the TV ratings suck too.   Screw the NCAA.