Texas Basketball 2023-24

[Rickylovesweed 14293]

The MItchell news sounds perfectly reasonable to me. All these FR 5 stars have inflated egos and think they're better than they are. 

Morris transferred in big part because he didn't get enough playing time. Mitchell likely entered the draft and a got a dose of reality that he's at best an early to mid 2nd round pick. 

Edited April 24, 2023 by Rickylovesweed

[Majorcholas 508]

I can’t say shedrick without automatically feeling like Sean Connery.

[LTtxfan 49170]

16 minutes ago, BERT said:

This morning on B&E, Erin said he's been hearing rumblings that they're starting to feel good about Mitchell maybe coming back. I don't believe that one damn bit but i guess you never know. 

     HI BERT !!!

[ztejas 43418]

It could be a combination of draft feedback and Texas upping it's NIL commitment. 

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14 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

If Mitchell comes back, I guess they would pass on the UTEP big. If Mitchell can play outside the dunker position with any kind of consistency, his stock will blow up.

Why not both?

[Rickylovesweed 14293]

I don't think we need both if Mitchell returns. Guys like Cunningham and Holland can also play the 4. 

Then you already have Mitchell, Disu, and Shedrick getting substantial minutes at the 4 and 5. I also find it really difficult to believe the UTEP big would come here if Mitchell, Disu and Shedrick were on the roster. Minutes would be limited. 

[shakahorn 1645]

12 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

the boy might have aids, just don't release his grades. 

6/10.  Not your best work.

[MotownHorn 1761]

14 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

i can count the number of freshman guards i've seen defend with his fervor and competency on one hand. that plus his explosive first step, hops, and what's already a decent shot make him a really impactful loss that will be hard to replace. cases like his are the biggest bummer of today's cbb world.

 

His ex-girlfriend says he's got a great left hook too!

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2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

My older son went to that camp, once.  Learned absolutely nothing.

I went to John Jenkins run n shoot camp.   Spent five hours reviewing the importance of snapping the ball.   Jk.  Heard that did actually happen 

[hookemATL 11714]

Abmas is trending in the right direction and a decision is imminent, per my sources. Haith/Terry headed to see him tomorrow. 🤘🤞

[Snake Diggity 4621]

Disu, Mitchell, Holland, Shedrick, and Cunningham would be on par or better than last season’s forwards.  Add Hunter, Abmas, and another quality guard, and Sweet 16 would be a totally reasonable expectation.

[HookEm 2467]

Looking at how the minutes might shake out if Mitchell and Hunter come back and we add Abmas.  I'm not seeing how we have room for Onyema or any other 3/4/5 in that scenario.  We really need to add another capable guard.

I could see it looking something like this, with the orange highlighting the starters. (Note that we generally average ~220 minutes when you account for missed games due to injury and such). 

 

If Mitchell doesn't come back and we fail to add another guard, then we will need Onyema.  We would also need Hunter and Abmas to log pretty big minutes (about what Carr did last year).  Brock would also have to pick up the load at SG.  I don't think this team would be bad, but it really only goes 7 deep.  

[Rickylovesweed 14293]

There is zero chance Texas is going into next season with only 2 guards. They will add somebody else. 

[shadow_operative 15932]

5 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Tyrin Lawrence would be a good option. He was really good at the end of last year. He's also 6'4 so he's a bigger guard to go with potentially smaller guards in Abmas and Hunter. 

He played a year with Disu so maybe there's a connection. 

we might get tyrin lannister on this team? oh hell yeah. what about The Mountain? we could use another big.

[Tex-19 2872]

6 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Tyrin Lawrence would be a good option. He was really good at the end of last year. He's also 6'4 so he's a bigger guard to go with potentially smaller guards in Abmas and Hunter. 

He played a year with Disu so maybe there's a connection. 

He's athletic too. RT should be all over him imo

[Hookem2147 21208]

I'll believe Dillon Mitchell is coming back when I see it. I hope the staff is recruiting the portal with the expectation that he isn't coming back and I'm sure they will be delighted to make room if he does.

[Rickylovesweed 14293]

The 247 Vanderbilt mods are pretty much implying that Tyrin Lawrence is going to the school that gives him the biggest NIL deal. 

[BurntOrange&White 39931]

20 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

The 247 Vanderbilt mods are pretty much implying that Tyrin Lawrence is going to the school that gives him the biggest NIL deal. 

Well 

[HookEm 2467]

What good is it having the most money if you don't use that money to win?  Just to brag about?

[HtownHorn 14677]

1 hour ago, Rickylovesweed said:

There is zero chance Texas is going into next season with only 2 guards. They will add somebody else. 

Gerry said they will likely add 3 more after Abmas. One being a big, either Mitchell or the kids from UTEP and 2 big guard or wings.

[Hank_Hill 18803]

1 hour ago, HookEm said:

What good is it having the most money if you don't use that money to win?  Just to brag about?

Well if our athletic department could pay players NIL this would matter. Alas

[Hookem2147 21208]

[Rockethorn1978 6077]

I hope he comes here but Baylor jumping in just pissed me off. Fucking tang and drew. The longer this plays out the more worries I get and mainly because then that graph above of minutes will significantly go up for Gavin perryman. 

[Pancho 44757]

Not good to see Baylor come out of nowhere. 

[shadow_operative 15932]

if this baylor smoke is real then that's probably where he ends up. 

[Js1 85310]

If it was so obviously us, he’d pull the trigger. He’s clearly open to more offers/pitches. So no, I don’t feel good about this right now 

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

Not good to see Baylor come out of nowhere. 

Yea.  That’s a fuck

[HtownHorn 14677]

You guys said the same fucking thing about Shedrick. Let him take his visits if that is what he wants to do.

[Pancho 44757]

I don’t recall random schools coming out of nowhere for Shedrick in the same fashion as Abmas…

[LTtxfan 49170]

3 hours ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

I hope he comes here but Baylor jumping in just pissed me off. Fucking tang and drew. The longer this plays out the more worries I get...

tang and drew combined will most likely make sure Abmas doesn't end up at Texas.  They have to hurt RT's recruiting right now so Texas doesn't gain any more traction and become a consistent Top 10 basketball program.  

[HtownHorn 14677]

9 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

tang and drew combined will most likely make sure Abmas doesn't end up at Texas.  They have to hurt RT's recruiting right now so Texas doesn't gain any more traction and become a consistent Top 10 basketball program.  

So, Tang would rather him go to Baylor, which checks notes, plays in the Big 12. 

[Hookem2147 21208]

New portal name to know, per Gerry. 

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5105486/chendall-weaver

[HookEm 2467]

58 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

So, Tang would rather him go to Baylor, which checks notes, plays in the Big 12. 

Abmas only has a year left so it doesn't really matter that much to K-State whether he plays for Texas or Baylor.

[HookEm 2467]

5 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

New portal name to know, per Gerry. 

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5105486/chendall-weaver

Dude played pretty well as a freshman and won WAC RoY.  Decent size.  Shot >40% from 3. Low turnovers.  Seems like a good add.  That said, UTA was 11-21 last year. I would prefer to get players from winning programs if possible. 

Wonder if Chris Ogden started his recruitment to UTA when he was there.  

[Hookem2147 21208]

2 minutes ago, HookEm said:

Dude played pretty well as a freshman and won WAC RoY.  Decent size.  Shot >40% from 3. Low turnovers.  Seems like a good add.  That said, UTA was 11-21 last year. I would prefer to get players from winning programs if possible. 

Wonder if Chris Ogden started his recruitment to UTA when he was there.  

Question I would have with a kid like him is what kind of minutes is he expecting at his next stop? He played 30 minutes a game for UTA as a freshman. A lot of guys like that aren't looking for bench roles at their next stop, and that might be what we are offering depending on how a few things shake out. Maybe he can thrive in a 6th man type role and play 23-25 minutes a game.

Edited April 25, 2023 by Hookem2147

[Burt Macklin 19020]

14 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Question I would have with a kid like him is what kind of minutes is he expecting at his next stop? He played 30 minutes a game for UTA as a freshman. A lot of guys like that aren't looking for bench roles at their next stop, and that might be what we are offering depending on how a few things shake out. Maybe he can thrive in a 6th man type role and play 23-25 minutes a game.

Third guard isn’t really a bench role. We can sell starter minutes to another guard. Even if Abmas comes and Hunter stays AND both stay healthy all year, he could easily average 25 mpg. If either doesn’t happen or a guy gets injured, then he’d be a full time starter. We should be able to land another high level guard on top of Abmas and Hunter. 

[Js1 85310]

18 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Question I would have with a kid like him is what kind of minutes is he expecting at his next stop? He played 30 minutes a game for UTA as a freshman. A lot of guys like that aren't looking for bench roles at their next stop, and that might be what we are offering depending on how a few things shake out. Maybe he can thrive in a 6th man type role and play 23-25 minutes a game.

Sell him on the Rice role as 6th man off the bench, playing 25 mpg, if we land Abmas and Hunter returns. A starting role if we miss one. Though Rodney could also be selling him on a 3 guard starting lineup with Disu and Shedrick, versus last year’s 2 guard starting lineup. 

I like his numbers too. He’s a good option, along with the Vandy kid 

[BurntOrange&White 39931]

1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

So, Tang would rather him go to Baylor, which checks notes, plays in the Big 12. 

Or Tang contacting his old boss to negative recruit Texas in order to push him to K-State?

[Pancho 44757]

It is 100% realistic for tang, mills, and Baylor to scheme something to screw over Texas. A 3rd grader could use logic and reasoning to see why, especially considering the common denominator.

[Scholz 11941]

23 hours ago, Majorcholas said:

I can’t say shedrick without automatically feeling like Sean Connery.

I hear this Beasties song.  Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego.

 

 

 

[Js1 85310]

25 minutes ago, Pancho said:

It is 100% realistic for tang, mills, and Baylor to scheme something to screw over Texas. A 3rd grader could use logic and reasoning to see why, especially considering the common denominator.

What?!? Coaches from the same coaching tree/Big 12 would never collude to screw over Texas.

*checks 2008 BCS standings*

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13 minutes ago, Js1 said:

What?!? Coaches from the same coaching tree/Big 12 would never collude to screw over Texas.

*checks 2008 BCS standings*

Yea would absolutely not put it against a guy like Drew to screw us over.  

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1 hour ago, Hookem2147 said:

Question I would have with a kid like him is what kind of minutes is he expecting at his next stop? He played 30 minutes a game for UTA as a freshman. A lot of guys like that aren't looking for bench roles at their next stop, and that might be what we are offering depending on how a few things shake out. Maybe he can thrive in a 6th man type role and play 23-25 minutes a game.

I would think the sell is playing at UT vs UTA.  IMO, he probably will be in our rotation as we have....checks notes......nobody at the moment.

[HookEm 2467]

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 Though Rodney could also be selling him on a 3 guard starting lineup with Disu and Shedrick, versus last year’s 2 guard starting lineup. 

In my opinion, the only way that Ron Holland isn't in our starting lineup is if Dillon Mitchell is back. And even then, it will be a very interesting decision who starts at the 3. 

I could see a lot of minutes with a lineup like:  Hunter + Abmas + Holland + Mitchell + Disu.  That is a mobile, athletic, fast AF team that would be a nightmare to match up against on both ends of the court.

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30 minutes ago, HookEm said:

In my opinion, the only way that Ron Holland isn't in our starting lineup is if Dillon Mitchell is back. And even then, it will be a very interesting decision who starts at the 3. 

I could see a lot of minutes with a lineup like:  Hunter + Abmas + Holland + Mitchell + Disu.  That is a mobile, athletic, fast AF team that would be a nightmare to match up against on both ends of the court.

That line up screws

[HtownHorn 14677]

Gerry says Texas will be going all in on the UTA guard that entered the portal. 6'3" freshmen, Chendall Weaver. Gerry is a big fan of his, compares him favorably to Rice, except a better athlete.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5105486/chendall-weaver

[HookEm 2467]

I like that he has 3 years left. Get some player continuity up in here. 

Right now we basically have zero guards.  We need 3 of Tyrese Hunter, Max Abmas, Tyrin Lawrence, Chendall Weaver.  Any three out of that four would be fantastic.  

 

[Burt Macklin 19020]

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

It is 100% realistic for tang, mills, and Baylor to scheme something to screw over Texas. A 3rd grader could use logic and reasoning to see why, especially considering the common denominator.

Sure, but it still seems awfully presumptuous to assume HtownHorn should get it. 

[UnhappilyMarried 815]

1 hour ago, HookEm said:

In my opinion, the only way that Ron Holland isn't in our starting lineup is if Dillon Mitchell is back. And even then, it will be a very interesting decision who starts at the 3. 

I could see a lot of minutes with a lineup like:  Hunter + Abmas + Holland + Mitchell + Disu.  That is a mobile, athletic, fast AF team that would be a nightmare to match up against on both ends of the court.

Holland, Disu, Shedrick is the front court. Holland is almost certainly the reason Mitchell will transfer when he gets his pro feedback

[TheBryMan81 2509]

19 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

we might get tyrin lannister on this team? oh hell yeah. what about The Mountain? we could use another big.

Tyrion is coming on to manage the NIL budget... Our very own Master of Coin.