Texas Basketball 2023-24

[6th Street 6390]

Hopefully Billy Donovan is available in the next year or 2. He is a college basketball coaching wizard.

[Herpa Derpa 6123]

14 hours ago, 6th Street said:

Hopefully Billy Donovan is available in the next year or 2. He is a college basketball coaching wizard.

Billy Donovan hasn't been in college basketball in a decade and only Izzo and Calipari make more than he does currently. He will not be the savior. 

[Saint Austin 745]

I'm going to tomorrow's game in Lawrence. Anyone who's been there have any touristy or food/drink recs out there?

[shadow_operative 15932]

5 minutes ago, Saint Austin said:

I'm going to tomorrow's game in Lawrence. Anyone who's been there have any touristy or food/drink recs out there?

The Big Biscuit. we went with two of my former students who were KU students at the time, and they got us reservations/checked in online beforehand which was a good idea, cuz the joint was jumping, and understandably so. the food:

[MuellerHorn 4228]

2 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

The Big Biscuit. we went with two of my former students who were KU students at the time, and they got us reservations/checked in online beforehand which was a good idea, cuz the joint was jumping, and understandably so. the food:

https://bigbiscuit.com/the-big-biscuit-menu/

Yeah, that place looks delicious.

[Underdog 28544]

The Big Biscuit was Raef LaFrentz’ nickname while at KU,  wasn’t it? 

[MotownHorn 1759]

22 hours ago, Saint Austin said:

I'm going to tomorrow's game in Lawrence. Anyone who's been there have any touristy or food/drink recs out there?

I remember Free State Brewing being decent but that was a decade ago

[6th Street 6390]

On 2/23/2024 at 10:21 AM, Herpa Derpa said:

Billy Donovan hasn't been in college basketball in a decade and only Izzo and Calipari make more than he does currently. He will not be the savior. 

If Donovan not available, TJ Otzelberger from Iowa State would be a solid choice. His work there is damn impressive 

[MoJames 8244]

Next year is going to be a riot. Was looking over the roster and Terry is either going to have to go wild in the transfer portal or we might be looking for a new coach early in conference play. If as expected Mitchell goes pro the only player with any significant playing time and experience is Hunter. I guess you could say Weaver as well at this point. We have 3 talented Freshman coming in. We have Chris Johnson as our only recruited Freshman who has looked fairly lost every time he has been on the court. 

[ztejas 43411]

2 minutes ago, MoJames said:

Next year is going to be a riot. Was looking over the roster and Terry is either going to have to go wild in the transfer portal or we might be looking for a new coach early in conference play. If as expected Mitchell goes pro the only player with any significant playing time and experience is Hunter. I guess you could say Weaver as well at this point. We have 3 talented Freshman coming in. We have Chris Johnson as our only recruited Freshman who has looked fairly lost every time he has been on the court. 

@MoJames - basketball expert

[Js1 85269]

Wow that is breaking news and analysis 

[MoJames 8244]

8 minutes ago, ztejas said:

@MoJames - basketball expert

 

7 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Wow that is breaking news and analysis 

Oh I've just been avoiding basketball since the West Virginia loss. Was watching an entertaining game between Houston and Baylor and popped over to the recruiting world to see what we were up to. As expected, we have plenty of assholes on the website, good job guys.

[ztejas 43411]

Just now, MoJames said:

As expected, we have plenty of assholes on the website, good job guys.

But you already knew I was an asshole. 

[David Dennison 18845]

6 minutes ago, MoJames said:

Oh I've just been avoiding basketball since the West Virginia loss. Was watching an entertaining game between Houston and Baylor and popped over to the recruiting world to see what we were up to. As expected, we have plenty of assholes on the website, good job guys.

[MoJames 8244]

8 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

[KingBobo81 534]

The new reality of college basketball is that unless you have a bunch of HS studs coming in, you will have to hit the portal every year. No matter how this season went down, next year was going to have to be a big portal year due to Holland/Johnson leaving so late in the cycle and having to replace their spots with portal players for this year.

Writing off next season is extremely premature until we at least find out who the portal players are that will be coming here.

[texastroubadour 1210]

I fully expect the jaybirds will destroy us today but it was to read/remember we’ve taken 5 of the last 7 from them. Lick your lips, Bill. 

Good to read

[MoJames 8244]

2 hours ago, KingBobo81 said:

Writing off next season is extremely premature until we at least find out who the portal players are that will be coming here.

counterpoint

[6th Street 6390]

Clown

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

47 minutes ago, MoJames said:

counterpoint

I'm no RT hater, but that's not a flattering look.

[shadow_operative 15932]

[shadow_operative 15932]

#7 offense and #9 defense in conference play. defensive metrics are really bad. our drastic fall off in defensive performance and statistics which immediately coincided with RT’s replacing of beard should have been a crystal clear sign that this would be a weakness. that defense went from a swarming, ferocious defense to “merely” being really good defense overnight.

that was a talented, senior laden, well drilled team of chris beard’s players. those boys played some inspired D during their postseason run, but outside of that 5-6 game stretch of great D (particularly great perimeter D) our defense has been ineffectual and uninspired under RT (particularly our perimeter D). he needs to bring in someone to design and implement a successful defense next year or he’ll be gone.

Edited February 25 by shadow_operative

[dcar00 14151]

8 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

#7 offense and #9 defense in conference play. defensive metrics are really bad. our drastic fall off in defensive performance and statistics which immediately coincided with RT’s replacing of beard should have been a crystal clear sign that this would be a weakness. that defense went from a swarming, ferocious defense to “merely” being really good defense overnight.

that was a talented, senior laden, well drilled team of chris beard’s players. those boys played some inspired D during their postseason run, but outside of that 5-6 game stretch of great D (particularly great perimeter D) our defense has been ineffectual and uninspired under RT (particularly our perimeter D). he needs to bring in someone to design and implement a successful defense next year or he’ll be gone.

and so it begins...

as of today who would be our first game in the Big 12 Tourney?

[shadow_operative 15932]

On 2/23/2024 at 2:19 PM, Saint Austin said:

I'm going to tomorrow's game in Lawrence. Anyone who's been there have any touristy or food/drink recs out there?

how was your trip (aside from the ass kicking)? we lost in OT when i went, but we still had a blast. something unique about the Phog is that it has ~the same number of seats as the FEC, no upper deck, and no AC. the sun was shining and the weather was beautiful when we walked in. it got hotter than shit while we were in there with the lack of AC and the giant windows just blasting you with sun. then when we left after the senior day festivities it was like 40 degrees and 35 mph winds. defintely a unique game day experience.

[shadow_operative 15932]

because duh:

 

[Gatorubet 30185]

12 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

because duh:

 

[MrX 727]

3 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

because duh:

 

Florida going to be pumped to play Qunnipiac for a chance to go to the Sweet 16. 

[Pancho 44692]

7 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

because duh:

 

 

I’m not even sure where this is from. It’s not on ESPN or CBS, and in fact, CBS has us missing the tournament as of this morning. 

Florida is sneaky good. Depending on their path, they could be a S16 team.

[dcar00 14151]

4 hours ago, MrX said:

Florida going to be pumped to play Qunnipiac for a chance to go to the Sweet 16. 

Do Quinnipiac players take a poll before their games on whether they will win or lose?

[Pancho 44692]

23 hours ago, dcar00 said:

 

as of today who would be our first game in the Big 12 Tourney?

BYU

[dcar00 14151]

3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

BYU

ooof

[MAUFRAIS 6618]

how was your trip (aside from the ass kicking)? we lost in OT when i went, but we still had a blast. something unique about the Phog is that it has ~the same number of seats as the FEC, no upper deck, and no AC. the sun was shining and the weather was beautiful when we walked in. it got hotter than shit while we were in there with the lack of AC and the giant windows just blasting you with sun. then when we left after the senior day festivities it was like 40 degrees and 35 mph winds. defintely a unique game day experience.

Wasn’t directed at me but we went and had a great time. Went to the wheel and bullwinkles but didn’t make it to the hawk.

Loud as fuck and great atmosphere. Museum was cool. Campus was surprisingly hilly. Football stadium was basically leveled.

Glad I went.

[TxTower 650]

So just win the remaining home games and one B12 tourney game and go to the big dance.

Flame out in the first round and move on to trying to find some good guard play for next year.

[MotownHorn 1759]

4 hours ago, Pancho said:

, CBS has us missing the tournament as of this morning. 

They have Ole Miss in at 76 NET and us out at 41 NET

That doesnt make much sense to me

[shadow_operative 15932]

ole miss has a realistic chance to finish the season 3-1, Texas has a realistic chance to finish 1-3. that would be my guess.

[dcar00 14151]

aggy at Ole Miss could be a play in game.

[Hookem2147 21188]

1 hour ago, MotownHorn said:

They have Ole Miss in at 76 NET and us out at 41 NET

That doesnt make much sense to me

Rutgers in 2022 is the lowest rated team (#77) to make the tournament since NET was introduced. And they did so because they had 6 Q1 wins. 

Edited February 26 by Hookem2147

[Hookem2147 21188]

26 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

ole miss has a realistic chance to finish the season 3-1, Texas has a realistic chance to finish 1-3. that would be my guess.

This has always bothered me. Is bracketology not supposed to be what it would look like if the tournament started today? They shouldn't be looking into crystal balls and factoring in future games.

[Hookem2147 21188]

I guess there is a reason Jerry Palm's 5-year accuracy ranking on Bracket Matrix is 142nd out of 174.

[jimmyjazz 45880]

11 hours ago, MrX said:

Florida going to be pumped to play Qunnipiac for a chance to go to the Sweet 16. 

Now that's how you do it.

[Saint Austin 745]

19 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

how was your trip (aside from the ass kicking)? we lost in OT when i went, but we still had a blast. something unique about the Phog is that it has ~the same number of seats as the FEC, no upper deck, and no AC. the sun was shining and the weather was beautiful when we walked in. it got hotter than shit while we were in there with the lack of AC and the giant windows just blasting you with sun. then when we left after the senior day festivities it was like 40 degrees and 35 mph winds. defintely a unique game day experience.

It was great (aside from the ass kicking). Definitely the best basketball experience I've ever been a part of. Really cool history and aside from a hand full of Horns down, fans mostly polite and welcoming. No confrontations whatsoever. Reminded me a lot of the Notre Dame football game in '15. I knew we had a down year then, but didn't want to miss would could've been my last chance to see us play at an iconic location. I won't be in a hurry to see us at Rupp until this program gets its shit together.

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

8 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

I’m not even sure where this is from. It’s not on ESPN or CBS, and in fact, CBS has us missing the tournament as of this morning. 

Florida is sneaky good. Depending on their path, they could be a S16 team.

Jerry Palm sucks at his job. 

[MotownHorn 1759]

3 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

ole miss has a realistic chance to finish the season 3-1, Texas has a realistic chance to finish 1-3. that would be my guess.

and vice versa so that's meaningless

[MotownHorn 1759]

Texas win probability according to ESPN computers

32% at Tech

89% vs Okie St

23% at Baylor

68% vs OU sucks

Ole Miss win probability according to ESPN computers

16% vs Alabama

53% at Mizzou

29% at Georgia

52% vs A&M

So no, "Ole Miss has a realistic chance at 3-1 while Texas has a realistic chance at 1-3" is not the logical explanation here. 

Edited February 26 by MotownHorn

[shadow_operative 15932]

ole miss plays one good team and three meh-bad teams, Texas plays one bad team and three good teams. i don’t personally think that either team will go 3-1 but id be a lot more surprised by Texas taking 2/3 vs BU, TTU, and OU than i would ole miss taking 2/3 mizzou, a&m, and georgia.

[MotownHorn 1759]

21 hours ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

Jerry Palm sucks at his job. 

Joey Brackets has us as a 10 seed as of this morning

[dcar00 14151]

what is lowest seed for a major conference at large in the last 10 years or so?  As I recall usually the major conf at large stop at 11 but maybe someone was a 12.

[Js1 85269]

49 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

what is lowest seed for a major conference at large in the last 10 years or so?  As I recall usually the major conf at large stop at 11 but maybe someone was a 12.

2021 Oregon St was a 12
2013 had 3 P5 teams as a 12 - Ole Miss, Cal and Oregon
1999 OU was a 13

[HookEm 2463]

The season could still swing wildly with 4 games to play.  Based on the Massey probabilities:

• 0-4: 3%
• 1-3: 20%
• 2-2: 45%
• 3-1: 25%
• 4-0: 7%

At 8-10 we definitely get in, regardless of the Big 12 tourney.  At 7-11, it is definitely dicey.  Probably no better than 50/50 in that case and we would definitely have some work to do in the Big 12 tourney. Still, if those odds hold that gives us over 80% chance to make the tourney.  At that point, we could bow out in round 1 or make a deep run.

[LTtxfan 49142]

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