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Saw this on another site, source is the census:

 

Moved From Outside the US
Houston: 374,016
Dallas/Fort Worth: 309,690
Austin: 96,234
San Antonio: 53,281
Midland: 11,863
Odessa: 9,406
Amarillo: 7,110
Beaumont: 5,661
Corpus Christi: 5,063
Bryan/College Station: 4,265
Lubbock: 5,132
Killeen/Temple: 4,110
Waco: 3,938
Longview: 3,113
Tyler: 2,583
Abilene: 2,410
McAllen: 1,911
San Angelo: -939
Wichita Falls: -1,001
El Paso: -4,310
Brownsville: -4,469
Laredo: -5,631

Moved from Northeastern States
Dallas/Fort Worth: 51,384
Austin: 33,382
Houston: 24,080
San Antonio: 10,144
El Paso: 1,215
Longview: 1,857
Waco: 1,479
Laredo: 1,080
Odessa: 986
Abilene: 901
Tyler: 829
College Station/Bryan: 797
Amarillo: 598
Killeen/Temple: 470
Lubbock: 380
San Angelo: 203
Wichita Falls: 101
Brownsville: 16
Beaumont: -240
Midland: -343
Corpus Christi: -1,105
McAllen: -1,948

Moved from Midwestern States
Dallas/Fort Worth: 66,708
Austin: 41,629
Houston: 33,729
San Antonio: 17,169
Killeen/Temple: 3,874
Waco: 3,621
Longview: 3,491
College Station/Bryan: 2,575
Midland: 1,807
Abilene: 699
San Angelo: 456
Wichita Falls: 431
Laredo: 386
Tyler: 384
Lubbock: 379
Beaumont: -191
Odessa: -289
Amarillo: -1,236
Brownsville: -1,590
El Paso: -1,914
McAllen: -4,038
Corpus Christi: -5,924

Moved From Other Southern States
Dallas/Fort Worth: 80,733
Austin: 44,703
Houston: 40,022
San Antonio: 30,315
Killeen/Temple: 10,256
Longview: 9,752
El Paso: 4,608
College Station/Bryan: 3,939
Brownsville: 2,890
Tyler: 1,977
Waco: 1,720
Wichita Falls: 1,689
San Angelo: 1,269
Abilene: 1,200
Midland: 155
Lubbock: 111
Odessa: -112
McAllen: -144
Laredo: -713
Amarillo: -2,414
Corpus Christi: -5,477
Beaumont: -6,082

Moved From Western States
Dallas/Fort Worth: 114,515
Austin: 64,264
Houston: 57,222
San Antonio: 48,771
Killeen/Temple: 13,380
Lubbock: 6,062
College Station/Bryan: 5,930
Waco: 5,601
Odessa: 5,341
El Paso: 5,287
Longview: 5,262
Amarillo: 3,812
Midland: 2,687
Lubbock: 2,600
Tyler: 21,555
San Angelo: 1,909
Corpus Christi: 631
Abilene: 490
Brownsville: 345
Beaumont: 228
Wichita Falls: -119
Laredo: -152

Here is are the same metro areas by race (yes I know Hispanic isn't a race but the Census treats it similarly). Data is from the same time period (2011-2022):

Hispanic Growth
Houston: 669,460
Dallas/Fort Worth: 504,053
San Antonio: 282,459
Austin: 208,632
McAllen: 115,959
El Paso: 70,982
Killeen/Temple: 34,578
Odessa: 30,798
Midland: 29,563
Lubbock: 28,305
Brownsville: 27,394
Corpus Christi: 24,753
Waco: 20,363
Laredo: 20,164
Amarillo: 20,009
Beaumont: 19,036
Longview: 17,458
College Station/Bryan: 14,104
Tyler: 11,931
San Angelo: 10,886
Abilene: 8,416
Wichita Falls: 5,963

White Growth
Austin: 208,790
Dallas/Fort Worth: 173,876
Houston: 89,531
San Antonio: 56,937
Longview: 36,275
College Station/Tyler: 11,926
Waco: 10,671
Tyler: 6,785
Killeen/Temple: 5,240
Lubbock: 4,553
Midland: 2,447
Laredo: 66
Abilene: -1,151
San Angelo: -1,126
Amarillo: -4,962
El Paso: -6,444
Odessa: -8,230
Brownsville: -8,274
Wichita Falls: -8,701
McAllen: -10,823
Beaumont: -13,770
Corpus Christi: -30,623

Black Growth
Dallas/Fort Worth: 266,247
Houston: 204,649
San Antonio: 33,173
Austin: 32,441
Killeen/Temple: 16,176
Longview: 12,492
Waco: 9,091
College Station/Bryan: 4,627
El Paso: 3,773
Lubbock: 2,146
Odessa: 1,910
Tyler: 1,665
Amarillo: 1,631
Midland: 1,511
Beaumont: 1,285
McAllen: 1,115
Abilene: 1,013
Brownsville: 289
Laredo: 232
San Angelo: 172
Corpus Christi: -278
Wichita Falls: -781

Asian Growth
Dallas/Fort Worth: 220,207
Houston: 197,210
Austin: 57,025
San Antonio: 22,977
Amarillo: 3,971
College Station/Bryan: 3,438
Killeen/Temple: 2,663
Lubbock: 2,131
Corpus Christi: 1,963
Midland: 1,552
Tyler: 1,477
El Paso: 1,319
Abilene: 1,247
Beaumont: 1,113
Waco: 1,101
McAllen: 885
Odessa: 686
San Angelo: 490
Longview: 413
Brownsville: 222
Laredo: -142
Wichita Falls: -159

Below is data from a Linkedin report which focuses solely on professional adults and where they moved. There are not numbers associated with it, but anyway here is the list of top 10 in-migration markets for DFW, Houston, and Austin. Time frame is 2012-2022:

Dallas/Fort Worth
1) Chicago
2) Washington DC
3) Oklahoma City
4) College Station/Bryan
5) Lubbock
6) Minneapolis/St. Paul
7) Kansas City
😎 Philadelphia
9) Waco
10) Houston

Austin
1) San Francisco Bay Area
2) Los Angeles
3) New York City
4) Washington DC
5) Dallas/Fort Worth
6) Portland, OR
7) Houston
😎 College Station/Bryan
9) Chicago
10) Boston

Houston
1) Washington DC
2) New Orleans
3) Chicago
4) Miami/Fort Lauderdale
5) New York City
6) Lafayette
7) Baton Rouge
😎 Atlanta
9) Philadelphia
10) Oklahoma City
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Funny thing is I see plates in Austin from everywhere but fewer and fewer CA plates.  Also, I'm surprised to see Houston so low... at one point, the state the sent the most people to Austin was Texas.

Austin
1) San Francisco Bay Area
2) Los Angeles
3) New York City
4) Washington DC
5) Dallas/Fort Worth
6) Portland, OR
7) Houston
😎 College Station/Bryan
9) Chicago
10) Boston

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9 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

So this pretty much settles the Houston vs Dallas debate. Are there even any Texans in Dallas? Between the Sooners and yanks, a few hundred? 

If this makes people in Houston feel better about drinking our doodoo water then okay. 

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48 minutes ago, closetohumping said:



Below is data from a Linkedin report which focuses solely on professional adults and where they moved. There are not numbers associated with it, but anyway here is the list of top 10 in-migration markets for DFW, Houston, and Austin. Time frame is 2012-2022:

Dallas/Fort Worth

9) Waco
 

Well well well my DFW friends. I'll show you how to properly mix the kool-aid next time I'm in town.

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1 hour ago, mdmost said:

If this makes people in Houston feel better about drinking our doodoo water then okay. 

You know... this reminds me... I know someone who recently left Austin because they felt Austin was losing its soul and authenticity and, you know, [insert usual gripes about Austin here].  Yeah... anyway, his solution was to move to a more authentic place that had not lost its soul.  

Dallas.

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6 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Anyone remember growing up when the idea of a new classmate that wasn’t from Texas was pretty much non-existent?

Shoot... living in Houston, I remember new classmates from Belgium, Norway and Canada (oohhh... exotic... Canada).  Overseas new classmates were pretty normal.  

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3 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Shoot... living in Houston, I remember new classmates from Belgium, Norway and Canada (oohhh... exotic... Canada).  Overseas new classmates were pretty normal.  

interesting, and yeah i can see how being an energy hub would bring folks from all over.

dallas burb here, i don't ever recall ever meeting a kid that wasn't from there. 

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MIGRATION TO TEXAS METROS                 LARGEST DOMESTIC SOURCE       FOREIGN
  NORTHEAST MIDWEST SOUTH WEST TOTAL US FOREIGN TOTAL     % OF US % OF TOT   % OF TOT
Dallas/Fort Worth 51,384 66,708 80,733 114,515 313,340 309,690 623,030   WEST 36.5% 18.4%   49.7%
Houston 24,080 33,729 40,022 57,222 155,053 374,016 529,069   WEST 36.9% 10.8%   70.7%
Austin 33,382 41,629 44,703 64,264 183,978 96,234 280,212   WEST 34.9% 22.9%   34.3%
San Antonio 10,144 17,169 30,315 48,771 106,399 53,281 159,680   WEST 45.8% 30.5%   33.4%
Killeen/Temple 470 3,874 10,256 13,380 27,980 4,110 32,090   WEST 47.8% 41.7%   12.8%
Tyler 829 384 1,977 21,555 24,745 2,583 27,328   WEST 87.1% 78.9%   9.5%
Longview 1,857 3,491 9,752 5,262 20,362 3,113 23,475   SOUTH 47.9% 41.5%   13.3%
College Station/Bryan 797 2,575 3,939 5,930 13,241 4,265 17,506   WEST 44.8% 33.9%   24.4%
Waco 1,479 3,621 1,720 5,601 12,421 3,938 16,359   WEST 45.1% 34.2%   24.1%
Midland -343 1,807 155 2,687 4,306 11,863 16,169   WEST 62.4% 16.6%   73.4%
Odessa 986 -289 -112 5,341 5,926 9,406 15,332   WEST 90.1% 34.8%   61.3%
Lubbock 380 379 111 6,062 6,932 5,132 12,064   WEST 87.4% 50.2%   42.5%
Amarillo 598 -1,236 -2,414 3,812 760 7,110 7,870   WEST 501.6% 48.4%   90.3%
Abilene 901 699 1,200 490 3,290 2,410 5,700   SOUTH 36.5% 21.1%   42.3%
El Paso 1,215 -1,914 4,608 5,287 9,196 -4,310 4,886   WEST 57.5% 108.2%   -88.2%
San Angelo 203 456 1,269 1,909 3,837 -939 2,898   WEST 49.8% 65.9%   -32.4%
Wichita Falls 101 431 1,689 -119 2,102 -1,001 1,101   SOUTH 80.4% 153.4%   -90.9%
Beaumont -240 -191 -6,082 228 -6,285 5,661 -624   WEST -3.6% -36.5%   -907.2%
McAllen -1,948 -4,038 -144 2,600 -3,530 1,911 -1,619   WEST -73.7% -160.6%   -118.0%
Brownsville 16 -1,590 2,890 345 1,661 -4,469 -2,808   SOUTH 174.0% -102.9%   159.2%
Laredo 1,080 386 -713 -152 601 -5,631 -5,030   NORTHEAST 179.7% -21.5%   111.9%
Corpus Christi -1,105 -5,924 -5,477 631 -11,875 5,063 -6,812   WEST -5.3% -9.3%   -74.3%
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^^^^ Decided to put the first set of figures into a table to make some sense out of it. 

The first thing that jumps out is that for almost all the metros, the West is the largest source of domestic migrants.

Secondly, international migration makes up a majority in Houston, DFW, Midland/Odessa, and Amarillo (interesting case there with lots of SE Asians coming over to work in meatpacking). That might explain some of the white vs. other races/ethnicities differences between DFW/Houston and Austin.

Surprisingly, all the border metros except for McAllen are LOSING population to foreign countries.

I can't explain Corpus losing so many folks to every other part of the country except for a trickle from the West coming in. Man, Beaumont and Corpus better keep that flow of international migrants going or they're going to suffer a complete demographic death.

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One last point to make on Austin is that it seems like it has the best "balance" of migrants from all geographic sources among the major metros.

Edit: One last, last point to make is what the fuck is going on with the migration pipelines for Laredo and Brownsville. Who's moving from the northeast to Laredo? I guess with the Brownsville metro including some coastal communities, I suppose I could understand people from the South moving there for retirement.

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43 minutes ago, texasdago said:

You know... this reminds me... I know someone who recently left Austin because they felt Austin was losing its soul and authenticity and, you know, [insert usual gripes about Austin here].  Yeah... anyway, his solution was to move to a more authentic place that had not lost its soul.  

Dallas.

Like Dallas Dallas or Carrollton Dallas?

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9 minutes ago, bolverk said:

One last point to make on Austin is that it seems like it has the best "balance" of migrants from all geographic sources among the major metros.

Yea.  I think Dallas has the most from the south right?  Houston is heavy internationally 

38 minutes ago, royiv said:

White people love themselves some Austin.

I’d call it the white Atlanta but I’ve been to denver and Portland 

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15 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Foreigners who show up in Midland, Odessa and Amarillo...

sad joaquin phoenix GIF

within about 6 months, we had people transfer from Seattle and SLC, Utah to Lubbock. Seattle peep didn't make it 2 years.  SLC has been trying to get out since they got here.

The Gif captures it perfectly. " Even we were asking them, WTF were you thinking?" 

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15 minutes ago, bolverk said:

One last point to make on Austin is that it seems like it has the best "balance" of migrants from all geographic sources among the major metros.

Edit: One last, last point to make is what the fuck is going on with the migration pipelines for Laredo and Brownsville. Who's moving from the northeast to Laredo? I guess with the Brownsville metro including some coastal communities, I suppose I could understand people from the South moving there for retirement.

No idea on Laredo, it’s a growing town though. Brownsville/Harlingen has always been a big snowbird destination

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5 minutes ago, slorch said:

within about 6 months, we had people transfer from Seattle and SLC, Utah to Lubbock. Seattle peep didn't make it 2 years.  SLC has been trying to get out since they got here.

The Gif captures it perfectly. " Even we were asking them, WTF were you thinking?" 

Its interesting, I have a client in Coral Gables who was telling me that a lot of people struggle moving to Miami because it is so different than what they are used to (obviously from a different perspective).  I love Miami and south FL but lots of domestic transfers struggle.  I would thank anyone from anywhere anytime would struggle in Midland, Odessa, etc. 

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Its interesting, I have a client in Coral Gables who was telling me that a lot of people struggle moving to Miami because it is so different than what they are used to (obviously from a different perspective).  I love Miami and south FL but lots of domestic transfers struggle.  I would thank anyone from anywhere anytime would struggle in Midland, Odessa, etc. 

Miami people are worse than New Yorkers.  Uncouth jerks. And the language thing

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9 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Yea.  I think Dallas has the most from the south right?  Houston is heavy internationally 

I’d call it the white Atlanta but I’ve been to denver and Portland 

Dallas pulling more from the South sort of makes sense if they're using US Census-defined regions, as I'm sure their in-migrant numbers are over-represented by Okies and Arkies.

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1 minute ago, bolverk said:

Dallas pulling more from the South sort of makes sense if they're using US Census-defined regions, as I'm sure their in-migrant numbers are over-represented by Okies and Arkies.

census-regions-graphic.png

Totally off topic but I can’t believe Maryland and Delaware are considered southern.  Dc as well

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8 minutes ago, Helobious said:

No idea on Laredo, it’s a growing town though. Brownsville/Harlingen has always been a big snowbird destination

I guess I never really think about people from the South as being snowbirds. Usually, it's the Minnesota tags you notice on I-35 during migration season so I assumed it would be "those people" who'd be making the move permanently. I'm still befuddled by the Northeast to Laredo thing.

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15 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Like Dallas its all Dallas Dallas to me.

Is atascocita the same as sugarland  to you too?  Is Nassau bay the same as willis?  Are any of them the same as Houston Houston?

1 minute ago, closetohumping said:

Totally off topic but I can’t believe Maryland and Delaware are considered southern.  Dc as well

Do you Mason-Dixon Line?

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5 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Miami people are worse than New Yorkers.  Uncouth jerks. And the language thing

I like Miami... now admittedly as you get closer to Boca Raton, West Palm, etc. you get the worst of the north.  Had a waiter in Boca thank me for thanking him since he would always get ordered around.

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Is atascocita the same as sugarland  to you too?  Is Nassau bay the same as willis?  Are any of them the same as Houston Houston?

I lived in Houston... I don't know what the hell those places are.

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2 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Totally off topic but I can’t believe Maryland and Delaware are considered southern.  Dc as well

South of the historic Mason/Dixon line. Of course, culturally they're not so southern anymore. Just keep in mind, this is used just for statistical purposes.

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15 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Yea.  I think Dallas has the most from the south right?  Houston is heavy internationally 

I’d call it the white Atlanta but I’ve been to denver and Portland 

Denver actually has a higher percentage of AAs than Austin, which is pretty obvious just cruising around the city.

it's the hispanic population  that is significantly lower, which i assume is primarily bc Texas is a border state. 

one of my earliest observations last summer when we moved here was that all the construction and roadwork crews were dominantly white and black... which was definitely different than Texas 😄

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1 hour ago, texasdago said:

You know... this reminds me... I know someone who recently left Austin because they felt Austin was losing its soul and authenticity and, you know, [insert usual gripes about Austin here].  Yeah... anyway, his solution was to move to a more authentic place that had not lost its soul.  

Dallas.

As a born and raised Austinite, I can understand this. I moved out of state for work and then moved back to TX for work about 4 years ago. We could choose between Austin, Dallas and Houston. Considered all three and ultimately chose Houston for its diversity, cultural amenities and damn good cuisine. People we met when looking also seemed generally more friendly and welcoming, too.

It certainly doesn't hurt that real estate and the accompanying property taxes are a lot more affordable than Austin. In short, Austin has lost its place as a really cool and cheap place to live. It has become a really expensive place to live with some cool attributes. I can understand why some people would balance those things and choose elsewhere since my wife and I did exactly that. 

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1 minute ago, longhornmatt said:

Embrace the big city elitism.  You know you want to, Austin.  You have the only Four Seasons in the world that is decorated like a Marriott Courtyard because “Keep Austin Weird!  Omg, we’re just a college town and so laid back and casual.”  No, you’re not.  Your 3/2 house already costs more than the lifetime earnings of the entire state of Ohio. Come over to the dark side, put on your shiny shoes, import some Italian marble, and wallow in the decadence.  

If anything, instead of Dallas leased thirthythousandaires, we have Austin Telsa idiots.  

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1 minute ago, royiv said:

As a born and raised Austinite, I can understand this. I moved out of state for work and then moved back to TX for work about 4 years ago. We could choose between Austin, Dallas and Houston. Considered all three and ultimately chose Houston for its diversity, cultural amenities and damn good cuisine. People we met when looking also seemed generally more friendly and welcoming, too.

As someone who moved from Houston, I would not make the same comment I did about Dallas to someone who moved to Houston... Houston has always had its own thing going on that is not pretentious or fake.  

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4 minutes ago, mchookem said:

Denver actually has a higher percentage of AAs than Austin, which is pretty obvious just cruising around the city.

it's the hispanic population  that is significantly lower, which i assume is primarily bc Texas is a border state. 

one of my earliest observations last summer when we moved here was that all the construction and roadwork crews were dominantly white and black... which was definitely different than Texas 😄

You like it so far?  I loved there for three years

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1 hour ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Thinking the same. I hadn't realized just how "white" Austin is and has been.

It's all those motherfuckers from collie station.

40 minutes ago, mchookem said:

one of my earliest observations last summer when we moved here was that all the construction and roadwork crews were dominantly white and black... which was definitely different than Texas 😄

The races may be different but no matter where, there is still only one dude working while at least 3 dudes stand around supervising.

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