Surly Boxing Thread

[immamac 42847]

10 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

This fight is so shitty

Diaz is just fucking around. Kind of annoying 

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

That was one of dumbest things I have seen in recent memory. Why in the fuck did I watch that?

[hobbes2702 13033]

I don’t want to hear anything about Paul being a decent boxer. He’s fucking terrible. He has zero ability to fight inside and can’t do anything other than over power smaller non boxers 

[Hermanator 7042]

On 8/6/2023 at 12:12 AM, hobbes2702 said:

I don’t want to hear anything about Paul being a decent boxer. He’s fucking terrible. He has zero ability to fight inside and can’t do anything other than over power smaller non boxers 

Of course he's not a real tv level boxer. He's had several years to do nothing but train 24/7 and he's gotten to the point of being what Freddie Roach called after watching him train a "club level guy". He's lost to the only boxer he's faced and Fury's little brother is a club level guy too. Dime a dozen in any decently sized city. He's just a social media creation that feeds America's fascination for the bizarre and gives UFC guys the only chance to make real fight level money to show up and embarrass themselves in a sport they've never been involved in. 

[BigOrange1 6436]

emanuel navarrete vs. oscar valdez is tonight on espn.  should be an action-packed fight.  i'm a big fan of navarrete, but he has a history of not taking his training as seriously as he should.  he was in real trouble in his last fight before he ultimately got the stoppage.  if he didn't taking his training camp 100% seriously, valdez could put him to sleep.

[BigOrange1 6436]

i'm not super high on anthony joshua, but he just ktfo robert helenius.  sounds like joshua/wilder is next (in january).  should be a fun one.

[BigOrange1 6436]

11 hours ago, BigOrange1 said:

emanuel navarrete vs. oscar valdez is tonight on espn.  should be an action-packed fight.  i'm a big fan of navarrete, but he has a history of not taking his training as seriously as he should.  he was in real trouble in his last fight before he ultimately got the stoppage.  if he didn't taking his training camp 100% seriously, valdez could put him to sleep.

this has been highly entertaining through 6 rounds.  

[Slacks 6819]

Navarete fucking throws hands. 

Valdez didn't have  a good strategy. He was fighting from the outside vs a guy who has 6 inches and just throws.  should have been working to his left, staying close, and working to the body of Navarete...  Instead he accepted a face beating and let Navarete keep the power distance, while throwing overhands and missing most of them. 

I really appreciate the work from Navarete... I could watch that every week. 

[BigOrange1 6436]

3 minutes ago, Slacks said:

I really appreciate the work from Navarete... I could watch that every week. 

for sure.  he's one of the top 5 most fun guys to watch in the entire sport.

[SpiralOut 1813]

https://dubz.co/c/b6cca9

So yeah, Joyce is awful.  Seems to be a trend with British boxers.  Fight a bunch of their countrymen on the island.  Get hyped up even though they're severely lacking in any boxing skills.  Then get demolished once they face some real talent.

I mean, look at that KO.  That's like painting a target on your face and saying "Please, drop nuke here."

Joyce's career is over.  To be fair, he made it farther than anyone without an ounce of boxing skill deserves to.  That "I've got a granite chin" stuff works when you're fighting dregs and journeymen.  Turns out when you go up against a real HW with power you gotta know some basic Boxing 101 shit like moving your head, not leaving your hands down around your waist, etc.

As for Zhang?  Dude has power, accuracy, and he's a good guy.  I imagine he'll be avoided like the fucking plague.  He'd be a good matchup for anyone outside of Usyk who would just run circles around him.  I'd love to see him in there versus any of the top guys.  Andy, AJ, Fury (will never happen since Fury doesn't do real boxing anymore), or Wilder.

[jeevsie 3734]

Anyone watching Canelo-Charlo?

[BigOrange1 6436]

just found a stream.  i'm on record as saying canelo can't be beat at 168 or below, but damn if i don't have a feeling that charlo might get him.  should be a good one either way.

[BigOrange1 6436]

for anyone who wants it: https://www.thestreameast.to/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-jermell-charlo/1

[Enemy07 288]

Anyone see the straight robbery on the previuos match?! WTF. Even the main commentator said they must of had it wrong. What a corrupt and joke of an organization. No wonder I stopped watching consistently years ago.

[jeevsie 3734]

Open scorecards is the only solution 

[Hermanator 7042]

Near the end of round 5 Charlo hit him with about as clean a left hook as you can and he didn't even flinch. 

Edited October 1, 2023 by Hermanator

[Hermanator 7042]

Canelo had to respect Bivol's power after a couple of rounds. So far he hasn't had to respect Charlo's power at all. Charlo is boxing off his heels

[SpiralOut 1813]

Charlo has nothing for him.

Canelo has had one game plan for a long time now.  He uses that Mexican beef and is bulked the fuck up.  Just wings power shots over and over.  Lots of them don't land, but a bunch do.  And these guys around 168 can't handle it.  

They don't have the power to worry Canelo who has a chin almost on the level of Triple G.  So he just swings away and eventually these dudes crumble like Charlo is doing right now.

 

[jeevsie 3734]

Clinic

[BurdineBandit 815]

Charlo disappointed me. His brother would have probably fared worse. Now I'm not going to be able to hear them speak about lions and run that whole "chip on the shoulder" mentality as anything other than 100% bluff. Hope Crawford shuns him for that fight too. He doesn't deserve to be rewarded after that heartless performance. If he doesn't take on Tszyu, then he has no dance partner left really. 

Still don't like Benavidez for Canelo. I see him being too big and long like Bivol was. Canelo is just strong, and looks natural at 168, but honestly doesn't belong fighting big 168ers. He's not tall or long enough. 

[PittsburghTiger 6181]

Alimkhanuly just destroyed Gualtieri

Middleweights I think.

[BigOrange1 6436]

i'm a fan of Janibek.  would like to see him get a big fight.

[Scraps 13561]

Francis about to gas out in like 2 rds

[Scraps 13561]

And Fury gonna gas out in his entry...what.the.fuck. lmao

[goodiemob 13]

So we got 2 ppl actually watching this fight? 

[speed817 19268]

Anybody got a stream?

[Fudbelty 2788]

Link for us cheap fucks?

[goodiemob 13]

3 minutes ago, speed817 said:

Anybody got a stream?

I got you brah:

https://redditsports.stream/boxingstreams

Bookmark redditsports.stream has the best aggregate for streams for all sports. 

[SameSame 1704]

Frances has a shot here

[Scraps 13561]

Oh shit....here we go

[goodiemob 13]

Holy fucking shit he knocked down Fury..what in the actual fuck

[SameSame 1704]

You could tell from the opening bell, he does not look out of place with the gloves on.

[cmontexas 3271]

Fury has 2 rounds to win this fight

[NAVY 6740]

This fight is ass 

[ajax 2611]

Francis looked good but Fury looked like shit

[SameSame 1704]

Not much happened at all outside the knockdown.  

[goodiemob 13]

They give the decision to Fury

[closetohumping 17441]

Losing a lot of respect for boxing wtf. No reason for that to be competitive

[hobbes2702 13033]

22 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Losing a lot of respect for boxing wtf. No reason for that to be competitive

It’s competitive because it’s not a real boxing match. I very much doubt Tyson Fury’s prep was super intense. 

[closetohumping 17441]

2 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

It’s competitive because it’s not a real boxing match. I very much doubt Tyson Fury’s prep was super intense. 

Oh ok. In that case I’m excited to see Ohtani play Ja morant in a game of 21

Edited October 29, 2023 by closetohumping

[52-80 19153]

“Besides being a professional fight overseen by a boxing commission and going on each heavyweights record while theyre clobbering eachother its not a real fight”

[hobbes2702 13033]

Apparently y’all don’t know what a money grab is. 

[52-80 19153]

“They fought for money, therefore its not a real fight. Unlike their other fights where they do it for free”. 

[hobbes2702 13033]

I bet you still pay for Mayweather fights too.

[52-80 19153]

You sound like you get punched in the head often

[immamac 42847]

We watched the fight at tailgate. It was fun. 

[CooterBrown 18008]

I don’t watch boxing and have never seen Fury before the clips online this morning? How the fuck is a fat, slow, unathletic looking dude the heavyweight champion? Was there a mass a exodus of talent to UFC

[52-80 19153]

36 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

I don’t watch boxing and have never seen Fury before the clips online this morning? How the fuck is a fat, slow, unathletic looking dude the heavyweight champion? Was there a mass a exodus of talent to UFC

HW is always void of depth in both UFC and boxing. Deaontay Wilder held the belt for having an arsenal consisting of 1 punch  

But some of these big fuckers have talent. Andy Ruiz is built like chest of drawers and has lightning hands. Fury looks clownish at times because he can afford to be. When he turns it up it’s fundamentals delivered from a gargantuan body. Watch him dismantle Wilder in their 3 fights. 
 

 

[A-Tex Devil 2446]

Fury is tall fat real life version of Brad Pitt’s character from Snatch.  At least that’s how I’ve always seen him. 

[52-80 19153]

12 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Fury is tall fat real life version of Brad Pitt’s character from Snatch.  At least that’s how I’ve always seen him. 

He has personal demons and he gets lazy as fuck, despite claiming to have gone through the longest training camp for this fight.  But when he's on he's on.  I think he way underestimated Ngannou in this one - but so did most of the world.