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1 minute ago, Laxtonto said:

It think it is going to crush that. And that will make me a little sad. I just hope Tyson has some form of payout escalator if the number of views cross 25M

From what I read they estimated 25 million viewers for an event that was free. 

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3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Fury vs Usyk had an estimated 20 million viewers

And there were just 6 million people watching AB's impromptu livestream on twitter. I watched on some other  random stream. a number in that range wouldnt surprise me. We're a country full of morons. Now if you will excuse me, I'm off to binge the last season of "Ow, My Balls!"

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5 minutes ago, NBHorn7 said:

The best punch Tyson landed was the little slap at the weigh in.

That was the fastest his hands moved his whole time in Dallas. Neither one attempted to  even try to hurt the other.  Tyson punches in training were way faster than anything he threw tonight.  

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I’m not sure how anyone thought they were going to see a great fight out of a 60 year old.
Jake should feel embarrassed that he boxed an old man. 
 

But he won’t because he the biggest pussy in the history of pussies.
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9 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Twitter does stream views different than YouTube or other sites. If you scroll there for a second or two it counts, even if you don’t stay

Interesting if true. Source on that?

Also - I would see it go down then back up so I'm not sure it's that simple. 

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5 hours ago, futureman said:

canelo?  surely you mean another alvarez. 

He wants to fight him at 200

Even at 200, Canelo is a 6-pack can of worms compared to a 58-year old that just received a concussion 4 days prior. Jake claims Canelo will come calling him for a pay day. Not sure if that’s just a terrible promo or if Jake really believes his bullshit, but he’s not going to like now that negotiation turns out.

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8 hours ago, ztejas said:

 UFC has desensitized us. It's such a better sport and product. 

 The heavyweight division has always been the worst division in boxing and it’s never been worse than it is today. Middles and lighter have always been the way to watch boxing and are still pretty good. 
UFC bores me most of the time. 

8 hours ago, Horn80 said:

Muhammad Ali is the GOAT not Tyson.

Sugar Ray Robinson is the GOAT. Ali was probably the best Heavyweight, although he is getter there on style points because he was banned from the sport for a large part of his physical prime. 
 

Tyson isn’t part of the GOAT conversation. He’s not even top 10 all-time heavyweight. 

You’re welcome

 

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The undercard fights were quite good.  Paul/Tyson was not a good fight.  In the early rounds, Paul evaded, so as to not get knocked out.  In the later rounds, Paul did not seem to want to put him away.  8 rounds is good for the sponsors, etc.  Roy Jones started referring to Tyson's legs in the late 2nd round.  I noticed his inability (or unwillingness) to move in the 3rd or so.  Tyson had a clear limp later in the match.  He was injured from before the match.  As has been noted, Tyson threw harder punches during his training/sparring.

The stream delivery problems were extremely frustrating, as it made it difficult for non-boxing-watching folks to see a good fight, which each of the undercards were.  The Taylor-Serrano fight was quality and very entertaining.

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Ranallo, Perez, and Jones did not really seem to prepare for the fights, aside from watching highlights or reading a couple of twitter feeds.  Ranallo was questioning whether Taylor continued to intentionally head-butt Serrano.  More than once, Jones said, "She leads with her head and is left-handed, so this kind of thing happens when a left-hander fights a right-hander."  Is she intentionally doing it?  Not sure, but leading with her head is a tactic and her style.  Then, Jones kept referring to Tyson adjusting his mouthpiece, to which Ranallo noted, "he's biting his glove.  He's always done that."

2 hours in a room together preparing and they'd have been better.

I've heard interviews with Paul early in his career, and he comes across as a fairly humble - yet confident - person.  These days, he's a caricature of a human and comes across as a real douche.  That said, he has found his money machine.

Last, aside from the money, this was a no-win situation for Paul.  Win by KO early and he beat the shit out of an old man.  Win in 8 and he wore an old man down.  Lose and he lost to an old man.

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Did Tyson ever throw a combo or follow up a solid connection? I know he tired out quickly but he either couldn’t or wouldn’t keep closing and rarely went to the body. The reach advantage hurt him. He used to handle that with lots of ducking and body blows but maybe that expends more energy than he has

 

 Or maybe they weren’t really trying

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Did Tyson ever throw a combo or follow up a solid connection? I know he tired out quickly but he either couldn’t or wouldn’t keep closing and rarely went to the body. The reach advantage hurt him. He used to handle that with lots of ducking and body blows but maybe that expends more energy than he has
 
 Or maybe they weren’t really trying

It looked like Mike would stop before he really got going. Also, Paul was running away as fast as he could. Mike was still fast (hands) and hard to hit at 58. Paul is a joke of a boxer (as far as professional/ semiprofessional) boxing goes.
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48 minutes ago, boilerhorn said:

Tyson threw harder punches during his training/sparring

I thought this as well. Unless he only has 45 secs worth of that type of activity in him. In the clips he was moving laterally, ducking and slipping punches and throwing violent counterpunches. Paul was not particularly quick and left himself wide open to counters every time he did anything but jab while waiting to retreat

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