Surly Boxing Thread

[Nivek 16875]

I want the time back they just stole from me
Booooooooooooooooring

Come on man, this was as predictable as all hell. I know howI feel in the AM and Tyson has a decade on me.

[wood 11195]

9 hours ago, futureman said:

canelo?  surely you mean another alvarez. 

No, I mean Canelo. Paul has called him out multiple times, but Alvarez isn't interested. I'd love to see it though, because if Paul did some of the shit he did last night against Old Mike, Alvarez would put him in the hospital.

[wood 11195]

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

Did Tyson ever throw a combo or follow up a solid connection? I know he tired out quickly but he either couldn’t or wouldn’t keep closing and rarely went to the body. The reach advantage hurt him. He used to handle that with lots of ducking and body blows but maybe that expends more energy than he has

 

 Or maybe they weren’t really trying

 

Yeah Tyson wasn't Tyson as we remember him, but I do believe that he still had enough in the early rounds to hurt Paul. He just didn't want to.

[futureman 22428]

3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Tyson isn’t part of the GOAT conversation. He’s not even top 10 all-time heavyweight. 

Maybe based on career.  I think you’d have a hard time finding 10 guys who could beat Mike in his prime when he still had Cus. 

58 minutes ago, wood said:

No, I mean Canelo. Paul has called him out multiple times, but Alvarez isn't interested.

well no shit.  

[Bozo_Casanova 26354]

1 hour ago, futureman said:

Maybe based on career.  I think you’d have a hard time finding 10 guys who could beat Mike in his prime when he still had Cus. 

Yes based on career, but then you have to compare prime to prime. 

Tyson on his best day would struggle to beat on their best day:

-Ali

- Marciano

- Joe Louis 

- Jack Johnson

- Holyfield

- Jack Dempsey

- Larry Holmes

- Tim Witherspoon

- Lennox Lewis

- Joe Frazier

- Sonny Liston

Edited 2 hours ago by Bozo_Casanova

[futureman 22428]

I think that’s awfully generous.  he had several years where he was almost unstoppable. 

[UTexasFight 9394]

Well done:

 

[ztejas 43364]

14 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Yes based on career, but then you have to compare prime to prime. 

Tyson on his best day would struggle to beat on their best day:

-Ali

- Marciano

- Joe Louis 

- Jack Johnson

- Holyfield

- Jack Dempsey

- Larry Holmes

- Tim Witherspoon

- Lennox Lewis

- Joe Frazier

- Sonny Liston

 

8 minutes ago, futureman said:

I think that’s awfully generous.  he had several years where he was almost unstoppable. 

Yeah that's a fucking joke. Tyson at his best would wipe most of those guys. Especially all of the old-school white guys. Marciano would be dead.

[Bozo_Casanova 26354]

12 minutes ago, futureman said:

I think that’s awfully generous.  he had several years where he was almost unstoppable. 

Like the years where he was duckingTim Witherspoon and Holyfield because they were problematic matchups?

all the other guys had years where they were nearly unstoppable too.

[futureman 22428]

you’re entitled to your opinion but there’s a reason why prime mike tyson is a mythical figure. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26354]

14 minutes ago, ztejas said:

 

Yeah that's a fucking joke. Tyson at his best would wipe most of those guys. Especially all of the old-school white guys. Marciano would be dead.

No offense kid, but you need to watch a few thousand boxing matches cause you don’t know what you’re talking about.
 

Marciano is on the list because he’s the most like Tyson. The others are on the list because they have things in common that Tyson in his prime had a hard time with. If you think Larry Holmes in his prime would have “get wiped” by Mike Tyson, I’m gonna go ahead and guess that you have never actually watched a Holmes fight from his prime. Or the others. 

And those are just the heavyweights, and Charlie Burley, who you’ve never heard of, probably could have knocked out Tyson, and that’s giving up 60 pounds. But he could have gone the distance if not, because Tyson couldn’t hit him. 
 

Shit, I was being generous. Archie Moore probably could’ve beaten Mike Tyson.

Edited 1 hour ago by Bozo_Casanova

[futureman 22428]

weak troll job tbh

[Bozo_Casanova 26354]

Styles make fights. Give me one person on that list that Tyson would be able to beat and why, and the closest opponent they faced to Tyson, and the closest opponent Tyson fought to that person.

Edited 1 hour ago by Bozo_Casanova

[hpslugga 4050]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Like the years where he was duckingTim Witherspoon and Holyfield because they were problematic matchups?

Well now you’re clearly not talking about 1986-1988 because Holyfield wasn’t a heavyweight by that time and Witherspoon was over 30 and his weaknesses were already exposed