How many of you carry ?

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

Just now, Bobby_Batronic said:

As I said, you might as well try to stop the sun from rising. The all or nothing solution isn’t happening. 

We’re in complete agreement that we will do absolutely nothing while school kids continue to get murdered while trying to learn.

This is America, the only place on earth where it routinely happens.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13548]

4 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

Yes, it does if you’re foolish about securing your weapons. 
 

Buying your kid a car is probably more dangerous and yet there is no outcry to ban them. 

That's why we set training and require tests before allowing a kid to drive.

[Sandman 3420]

I live in OK, have a CCL. I used to carry to and from work, as I drive through some shitty areas, but after my work schedule got change to WAH part time, I just sort of forgot about carrying. I got used to rarely going anywhere. My 9mm is in my nightstand, haven't touched it in months. Also have a 12 gauge in the bedroom closet. I think open carry is retarded. 

[Bobby_Batronic 1994]

19 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

We’re in complete agreement that we will do absolutely nothing while school kids continue to get murdered while trying to learn.

This is America, the only place on earth where it routinely happens.

Yep. You go work as hard as you can to inactbgun control, I’ll go push to harden soft targets like schools, and we can meet back up when none of it happens. 

14 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

That's why we set training and require tests before allowing a kid to drive.

And still they kill themselves in others that dwarf those killed in mass shootings. 
 

Look, if you want to require firearms training enroute to legal gun ownership then I think most gun supporters would be behind that. 

Edited March 29, 2023 by Bobby_Batronic

[SydneyCarton 48315]

10 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

As I said, you might as well try to stop the sun from rising. The all or nothing solution isn’t happening. 

I get it. Someone has reached a different conclusion about their personal safety and you feel derision is the best path forward. Whatever. I’m not here for your approval. 

You are inadvertently making my point. The odds of dying in a plane crash are astronomically low. And yet the pilots practice for emergencies as a matter of course several times a year. And you would demand no less of them. Statistically speaking, they shouldn’t bother. 

First, you're not answering the guys question that has been bolded. You're just calling him a meanie for deriding you, but you can't refute his point that building a nuclear shelter would give your family a 5% increase of survival in a nuclear holocaust, while claiming people would do "anything" to give themselves a 5% increase in living.

Secondly, I'm not inadvertently making your point, you're (I will assume obliviously) fundamentally missing MY original point. Which is that in your absolutist take on doing things that increase your chances of survival in general, you'd NEVER get on a plane, you'd NEVER get in a car. You're picking and choosing your point. And then a single fucking post later, you literally use the "buying your kid a car" as proof of your point. You dunked on yourself, you fucking buffoon. 

The point is, you're real quick to pick and choose which scenarios that improves one life by "5%" that you choose to accept are real, versus those that you're actively dismissive of...which is more sad than it is funny. And shockingly, you're passionate about just one of those things to increase your life percentages is gun ownership. Guns are a lot cheaper to build than bomb shelters, and much quicker to acquire, after all. 

Additionally, what you're failing to realize, is that lots of things are dangerous. People tacitly accept the risk whenever they get in a car. Whenever they get in a plane. Whenever they light up a cigarette. Whenever they put a glass of alcohol to their lips. There are short term and long term dangers associated with all of those things. But, and follow me here, people get fucking passionate things like gun safety, or say pedophilia, because they are things that inordinately these days in the case of guns, HAPPEN TO FUCKING CHILDREN. There is a reason pedophiles get treated the worst in prison. It's because by and large as a species we are HARD WIRED to fucking want to protect children. That's why this shit gets so passionate. That's why the outcry for Uvalde, or a Nashville, is much more passionate than say, the night club in Miami, the massage parlors in Atlanta, or even the big shooting in Las Vegas. And those get PLENTY of outrage, media coverage, and passion. But school shootings are a fucking next level, order of magnitude level of outrage. Because it's children. And because children can't tacitly accept the risk associated with going to school. They're complete innocents, but they're being buttfucked by the decisions of others in which they have no control. 

Sorry for the rant, everyone else. I mean not really, but I'm sure that some will complain about a longcat post. 

[Neonmoon 38130]

18 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

Yes, it does if you’re foolish about securing your weapons. 
 

Buying your kid a car is probably more dangerous and yet there is no outcry to ban them. 

The statistics say your kid is going to kill himself with your gun. Good luck feeling safe!

[closetohumping 17548]

Welp, this took a turn

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

9 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

I’ll go push to harden soft targets like schools

You are fundamentally broken when that is your solution.

I’m not name-calling there, I’m serious. You’re completely broken.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Welp, this took a turn

I mean, you knew it would.

[SydneyCarton 48315]

12 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Welp, this took a turn

 

1 minute ago, Patricio Swayze said:

I mean, you knew it would.

Sirs, I simply followed the conversation along the course it took naturally. That being said, whenever Batronic shows up to give an opinion about something it usually goes tits up in short order. Like the time he insisted players shouldn't tackle in practice because of injury risks. I'm shocked he didn't make the connection at the time that they'd have had a 5% less chance of injury if they just carried a fucking pistol in their waistbands at practice. 

[Blotto 23709]

11 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

More than 4,400 people called Houston police in 2022 after guns were stolen from their vehicles, a more than 19 percent increase from 2021, when the department received about 3,700 reports, said John Cannon, spokesperson for the police department.

No problems dude, we'll just sell those fucking idiots more guns, and the problem will go away. Its their constitutional right to contribute to this fucking insane problem. We'll just keep pumping 15 million guns a year into the population and all stand around scratching our balls wondering why the average american is so much more likely to killed by a firearm than any other first world country. 

 

7 minutes ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

Yes, it does if you’re foolish about securing your weapons. 
 

Buying your kid a car is probably more dangerous and yet there is no outcry to ban them. 

Dude, that's such a bullshit argument. The primary purpose of transportation is to move people from point A to point B. The primary purpose of a gun is to kill/destroy a person, animal or object. When the use of transportation results in death, its usually an accident. When the use of guns results in death, its overwhelmingly because that was the intent when the trigger was pulled. And yet, even with that distinction, Texas requires a drivers license and annual automobile registration and inspection for the operator of the transportation. Guns....fuck it, no license or registration required?

 

 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

And now, we await the gif…

[The Royal We 3072]

12 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

And now, we await the gif…

The gif of somebody being told to go get their shine box?

[Nivek 17045]

3 hours ago, CHIEF said:

Kind of a long story:

Normal small town thugs, apparently. Everyone in Throckmorton was scared of them. They had gotten off work and stopped at the beer store at the Stephens/Throckmorton county line. Didn't have enough money for the amount of beer they wanted to buy. Tried to get me to pull over to rob me on the side of the road. Had my eight year old in the truck. I was meeting uncles in town to eat. Both were already CCL holders. Tried to call them multiple times but no signal. I arrived about 15 minutes before they did. Throckmorton has no LEOs. Had the truck in reverse and the turbo spoiled when they slid in behind me in the parking lot, so I parked it on top of their Olds Aurora. I opened the driver door and backed into the A-pillar to keep them from getting behind me. They attacked me with full beer bottles, I had one of the new boxcutter pocketknives that had just come out. It had a fresh blade. They started swinging and I went to town on them, cutting biceps, kidneys, hands, legs, and feet. It took them a little while to figure out what was happening to them. The hospital was across the street, so they all ran over there to the emergency room. 

The streets were so bloody they had to wash it down with a firetruck. They ran out of sutures after about 1000 stitches on these fools, and was trying to get them careflighted out, but we hunted with a careflight commander, and he had all flights coming to Throckmorton grounded. These fuckers had called their family, so about another 10-15 of them was about to show up. Thats when the first LEO, a game warden, showed up about 18 minutes after the fight started. He cuffed me and threw me in his truck and guarded it with his AR-15 drawn on them. The next closest LEO was nearly an hour away.

I got a scolding that night from both the game warden and state trooper. This was something that occurred on desolate rural highways a couple of times a year, and that only idiots aren't carrying on these roads. Said if I would have been armed I could have done the town a great service. I only had a cut on my scalp from a beer bottle, got cleaned up and went hunting the next morning. The thugs got assault with a deadly weapon, child endangerment charges, scars, and some pretty permanent damage.

After that, one uncle gave me his 1911 to carry until I bought a P365 a couple of years ago. So even after that, I don't have a CCL, and only have gotten serious about having one in the truck now that I'm too old to participate in such shenanigans.

I still regret that night, those thugs were someone's son, father, brother, and husband. You can't count on the dregs of society to feel the same way. That is what is puzzling to me when I see people advocating that no-one be armed at all, that you can just "reason" your way out of the situation. The perps objective is to not spend time in prison. The easiest way to do it, is to leave no witnesses. Those that live in their little affluent neighborhoods with overlapping LEO departments,  are ignorant, and oblivious to what true desolation, and no LEO presence can mean once you get 100+ miles away from the city. I will say that CCL and open carry have not been the biggest preventative obstacles to crime, but the iPhone camera, and more cell towers

I told CHIEF Jr. before the fight started that Dad probably wasn't going to live through this, and to take care of his Mom. But, when fists, bottles, and knives started flying it was like everything was in slow motion. Then, that glimmer of hope, and the realization that you are gonna live through this takes place.

CHIEF

You thought people were going to hurt you and your kid so you pulled into a parking lot with them and then got out of your vehicle?  

Throckmorton has their own police department, as does shackelford, and archer which are less than 45 minutes away.  

[closetohumping 17548]

4 minutes ago, Nivek said:

You thought people were going to hurt you and your kid so you pulled into a parking lot with them and then got out of your vehicle?  

Throckmorton has their own police department, as does shackelford, and archer which are less than 45 minutes away.  

Uh oh, it' Kevin, the guy that can beat up pit bulls, chimpanzees, snow leopards, adolescent grizzlies.....without a gun. 

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

I’ve done a massive amount of driving around rural texas and don’t understand the fear out there. The only place that really made me feel uncomfortable is east texas and the abundance of confederate battle flags. Even then, no gun needed.

[closetohumping 17548]

6 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

I’ve done a massive amount of driving around rural texas and don’t understand the fear out there. The only place that really made me feel uncomfortable is east texas and the abundance of confederate battle flags. Even then, no gun needed.

Ever seen the HIlls have Eyes?  Rural areas are scarier than NYC

[aggie08 21588]

1 hour ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

I’ll go push to harden soft targets like schools

That's the answer, huh? Lots of jail-like schools in other countries? That's their secret? Put Barney Fife next to every door at 150,000 schools? Arm Mrs. Livingston with the bad hip? And when the shooters just change their targets to crowded public parks and soccer games?

It's so brilliant that it's certifiably insane.

Edited March 29, 2023 by aggie08

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

That's the answer, huh? Lots of jail-like schools in other countries? That's their secret? Put Barney Fife next to every door at 150,000 schools? Arm Mrs. Livingston with the bad hip? And when the shooters just change their targets to crowded public parks and soccer games?
It's so brilliant that it's certifiably insane.

They never want to look at or address the root cause. Such as mental health care and better gun control. Republicans are against both.

[CHIEF 5098]

32 minutes ago, Nivek said:

You thought people were going to hurt you and your kid so you pulled into a parking lot with them and then got out of your vehicle?  

Throckmorton has their own police department, as does shackelford, and archer which are less than 45 minutes away.  

No, they made it abundantly clear what they were up to. My priority was my child, and getting him to safety. I wrecked their car so they couldn't leave. They were planing a quick assault, robbery, and fleeing the scene, or they wouldn't have followed me. I had my son run into the restaurant and call LEO. I am just repeating what I was told by the LEOs, including time and distance from the scene. Throckmorton does not have a police department, they have a sheriff's department responsible for the whole county, there was one officer on duty nowhere to be found.. Might want to get your facts straight.

CHIEF

[HornOnTheBayou 8967]

5 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

My favorite Vietnamese place near my house gets a lot of LOE and oddly military. I say oddly because I am not aware of any military facilities in NW Houston. Anyways, yeah, most of the plain clothed cops are wearing their badge on their belt. Not overtly going out of their way to show they are LOE in any other way but that badge. Sometimes maybe a polo with their department logo.

While we are here, and mostly unrelated to the topic, I was eating there last week or the week before and a HPD swat officer came in. I usually sit right in front of the register to people watch. He was in fatigues and had his pistol holstered on his thigh. He orders his food and goes and sits down. Moments later he runs back to the kitchen door, holding his radio, and asks if they could cancel his order that there is an emergency. As he passes by me I hear on the radio “I’m hit!” Couple of O&G Bros a table down here it to. The cop hits the door and then sprints to his truck. We all stand up and see him retrieve his rifle from the back and take it with him in the cab. It sounded pretty intense. I check the news through your the day but didn’t see a thing about any incident where a cop was shot.

Training exercise maybe?

He took the time to cancel his lunch order? Did he also stop off for some Jujyfruits before handling the call?

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

He took the time to cancel his lunch order? Did he also stop off for some Jujyfruits before handling the call?

Very considerate huh?

[Handcruser 2805]

Who I am to judge a grown man working in a retail shop?

*Who am I……

Happy to help with your grammar whenever you need it.

And as you make fun of me for “working in a retail shop”…….I do that part time because I fucking love it.

I also work at a gun range for free because I fucking love it.

So while you sit here shitting your pants over someone open carrying I’ll rejoice in knowing I might have sold that gun that’s making you soil yourself.

I’ve said on here many times that I am for some common sense reforms - but it is people like you that keep it from happening.

If you need any more grammar help from the gunslinger, let me know. It’s embarrassing for you I’m sure- but I’m willing to help.

I think I’ll go open carry now because I’m “weak and terrified”.

[Handcruser 2805]

I think I’ll go with the 1911 today just to be fucking obnoxious.

Oh no! It’s cocked! It’s going to explode!

[aggie08 21588]

6 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

I’ve said on here many times that I am for some common sense reforms - but it is people like you that keep it from happening.

C'mon, dude. I generally like your perspective. But this is some straight up bullshit.

[Handcruser 2805]

C'mon, dude. I generally like your perspective. But this is some straight up bullshit.

Not really. We can’t have conversations that don’t spiral into name calling and bullshit rhetoric. Look above and see who started it. It wasn’t me. So why do I now want to have a conversation with the other side about things that may make sense? I don’t.

Want to ridicule my profession and hobbies? Well, fuck right off.

Take a gander at the thread. Let me know.

[aggie08 21588]

I was unaware that message board posters write and vote on new laws.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

17 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

So while you sit here shitting your pants over someone open carrying I’ll rejoice in knowing I might have sold that gun that’s making you soil yourself.

I’ve seen it once. Young guy in a sandwich shop in my town of 6,000 that doesn’t have violent crime. Hell, nobody locks their front doors or even their bikes around town.

I laughed and my first thought was “that poor guy has never gotten laid”.

But I bet you look a lot less pathetic.

[Handcruser 2805]

I’ve seen it once. Young guy in a sandwich shop in my town of 6,000 that doesn’t have violent crime. Hell, nobody locks their front doors or even their bikes around town.
I laughed and my first thought was “that poor guy has never gotten laid”.
But I bet you look a lot less pathetic.

I probably do.

[Ten Bears 2489]

On 3/28/2023 at 4:55 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

That rifle is almost as wide as he is

fify

[Neonmoon 38130]

29 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

I’ve said on here many times that I am for some common sense reforms - but it is people like you that keep it from happening

Now I understand why you open carry

[Js1 85764]

1 minute ago, Neonmoon said:

Now I understand why you open carry

Someone might be mean to him on the internet and hurt his feelings so he has to post a pic of his gun in response. 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

14 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

I probably do.

[Handcruser 2805]

Someone might be mean to him on the internet and hurt his feelings so he has to post a pic of his gun in response. 

*”Might be” would indicate the possibility for something to occur in the future. The “meanness” has already occurred.

Past tense is your friend here.


“His gun” cracked me up by the way. Like there is only one.

[RDCanecutter 26553]

2 hours ago, closetohumping said:

Welp, this took a turn

It's because you left out musical accompaniment. 

 

[Foosters 17928]

54 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

I’ve said on here many times that I am for some common sense reforms - but it is people like you that keep it from happening.
 

This is a lie. Not that you're for gun reform - that may be true. That its the unreasonable people from the anti-gun group that are blocking gun reform.

Blue states REGULARLY pass gun reform laws - whether its red flag laws, limits on magazine size, age restrictions, etc. Do you know what happens next? Lawsuits get filed by pro-gun groups to have the laws tossed. It does not matter how minute the restriction is - the suit will be filed in front of Fed Society judge, and the law gets stricken. 

We're dealing with dead kids here, man. The least you can do is stop gaslighting people into believing that its really the pro-gun people who are supporting reasonable gun reform.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

15 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

*”Might be” would indicate the possibility for something to occur in the future. The “meanness” has already occurred.

Past tense is your friend here.

Did I hurt your feelings? I bet strapping that gun to your waist will make you feel better.

[Bozo_Casanova 26684]

1 hour ago, Handcruser said:

I’ve said on here many times that I am for some common sense reforms - but it is people like you that keep it from happening.

I actually disagree with you. Because those reforms would include things like eliminating restrictions on braces, SBRs and suppressors. The reason common sense reforms don’t happen is lobbying by our interest groups, who are far more concerned with maximizing their position in the conflict-industrial complex than getting anything done and don’t really represent us at all. Anti-gun radicals are just whipping boys. 

Edited March 29, 2023 by Bozo_Casanova

[Handcruser 2805]

I actually disagree with you. Because those reforms would include things like eliminating restrictions on braces, SBRs and suppressors. The reason common sense reforms don’t happen is lobbying by our interest groups, who are far more concerned with maximizing their position in the conflict-industrial complex than getting anything done and don’t really represent us at all. Anti-gun radicals are just whipping boys. 

None of that would happen.

Yes I understand the lobbyists and all of that. But if we can’t even have civil conversations at this level nothing will change.

Why don’t we try it?

[Anastasis 23514]

20 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I actually disagree with you. Because those reforms would include things like eliminating restrictions on braces, SBRs and suppressors. The reason common sense reforms don’t happen is lobbying by our interest groups, who are far more concerned with maximizing their position in the conflict-industrial complex than getting anything done and don’t really represent us at all. Anti-gun radicals are just whipping boys. 

What special interest and/or lobbying groups do you recommend that would support consistently common sense things that we agree on? Things like reducing the nonsense regulations around suppressors and enacting universal, easy, and free background checks and logically coherent red flag laws? I don't donate to any special interest groups across the political spectrum, but point me to the one that talks about these things in the way that we have and I will scratch them a check tonight. 

[Handcruser 2805]

What special interest and/or lobbying groups do you recommend that would support consistently common sense things that we agree on? Things like reducing the nonsense regulations around suppressors and enacting universal, easy, and free background checks and logically coherent red flag laws? I don't donate to any special interest groups across the political spectrum, but point me to the one that talks about these things in the way that we have and I will scratch them a check tonight. 

Yeah, let’s see what comes up here.

[SydneyCarton 48315]

31 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

What special interest and/or lobbying groups do you recommend that would support consistently common sense things that we agree on? Things like reducing the nonsense regulations around suppressors and enacting universal, easy, and free background checks and logically coherent red flag laws? I don't donate to any special interest groups across the political spectrum, but point me to the one that talks about these things in the way that we have and I will scratch them a check tonight. 

 

15 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

Yeah, let’s see what comes up here.

This isn’t my area of expertise but your posts had me google “common sense gun lobby” and a group called Giffords popped up which seems to mostly support exactly what you claim to be looking for…it sort of forces me to question how hard you’ve been looking for such a solution. Of course their course is going after the gun lobbyists. 
 

https://giffords.org/issues/the-gun-lobby/

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

I don’t know about y’all but I want to thank the OP and consider this thread a success. Finally, after all these years, I got that racist pussy Johnny Sack to block me.

[SydneyCarton 48315]

Did any other thread shed clarity on why he changed his handle? 

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Did any other thread shed clarity on why he changed his handle? 

I’m assuming he was worried someone in the “real world” (his church) would find his drunk, racist posts?

[SydneyCarton 48315]

1 minute ago, Patricio Swayze said:

I’m assuming he was worried someone in the “real world” (his church) would find his drunk, racist posts?

Cliffs notes on the posts?

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Cliffs notes on the posts?

Typical seemingly passive posts that were easy to see underlying message. Some lost to the scat board and I am sure some could be found in the CR before the right leaning posters fled. A lot of blacks are lazy type stuff.

Edit:

Also quite a bit of homophobia and gay bashing.

[Proust Bag 20]

I couldn’t even imagine my wife telling me to move my guns out of the house. Of course, she’s a redneck and has more than I do. 

[tigol 2421]

4 minutes ago, Proust Bag said:

I couldn’t even imagine my wife telling me to move my guns out of the house. Of course, she’s a redneck and has more than I do. 

Ran out of smoking materials wind bag?

[closetohumping 17548]

43 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

I’m assuming he was worried someone in the “real world” (his church) would find his drunk, racist posts?

Don’t churches encourage that?  Jk. Is @Frank Drebin the new j sack?